I know you claim this. Show me how your flavor of oneness isn't oneness.
GINOLJC, to all.
sure, RIGHT THERE IN THE VERY FIRST VERSE of the bible. listen, Genesis 1:1 "In the
beginning God created the heaven and the earth."
the term GOD here in verse 1 is plural for a reason. what is that reason, to let us KNOW that he, God/JESUS is an ordinal of, of, of, himself, that was to come in TIME, ORDER, PLACE, and RANK, yes, "
OF" himself, which is where men made their mistake at, right at the beginning. let 101G explain. and show the difference of "Oneness", and "Diversified Oneness".
God is plural, listen to the definition.
H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem') n-m.
אֱלֹהֵי 'elohiy (el-o-hee') [alternate plural]
1. (literally) supreme ones.
2. (hence, in the ordinary sense) gods.
3. (specifically, in the plural, especially with the article) the Supreme God (i.e. the all supreme).
4. (sometimes) supreme, used as a superlative.
5. (occasionally, by way of deference) supreme magistrates, the highest magistrates of the land.
6. (also) the supreme angels (entities of unspecified type).
[plural of H433]
KJV: angels, X exceeding, God (gods)(-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.
Root(s): H433
Compare: H5945, H7706, H8199, H4397
see it, the
[plural of H433] [plural of H433]? well who is H433? if God is H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem'). let's see who this is,
H433 אֱלוֹהַּ 'elowahh (el-o'-ah) n-m.
אֱלֹהַּ 'eloahh (el-o'-ah) [shortened (rarely)]
1. one with supreme strength and ability.
2. the Supreme Being, God the Creator, Yahweh by name.
3. a supreme entity, a god-like creature (that is, one of God's supreme creations, or one of man's inventions).
[probably prolonged (emphat.) from H410]
KJV: God, god.
Root(s): H410
look at definition section #1 and #2. so, is it TWO H433, Supreme Being, God the Creator that is God H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem') as definition #1 states? no, how do you know this 101? for the bible tell us clearly.
#1. Listen carefully, in the first definition of God, H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem') n-m. he is "OF" and not "FROM" H433 אֱלוֹהַּ 'elowahh (el-o'-ah) n-m. in the second definition. if the definition would have said, the
[plural from H433] without a doubt that would be two separate and distinct Spirit, or persons, for God is a Spirit. but men assume it's three because of the titles. but the definition clearly says the
[plural of H433] which is not a separate and distinct person, but the same person EQUALLY SHARED. hence the ECHAD of ONE PERSON and ONE Spirit ..... WHICH "
WAS" TO COME. 101G always wondered why God/the Word ....... "WAS" .... in John 1:1. but when God revealed this to me, it became clear, just as the US and the OUR in genesis 1:26. and the reason why the Lord Jesus in Matthews 19:4 said God is a "HE", and "HE" is a single person when "HE" made man male and female and when he MADE ALL THINGS. God open my eyes to the term "beginning", yes right there in verse 1. it tells why God is a plurality of, of, of, himself.
beginning: H7225 רֵאשִׁית re'shiyth (ray-sheeth') n-f.
1. the first, in place, time, order or rank.
2. (specifically) a firstfruit.
[from the same as H7218]
KJV: beginning, chief(-est), first(-fruits, part, time), principal thing.
Root(s): H7218
that FIRST definition made it all clear without a doubt.
"the first, in place, time, order or rank."
First, this is why Israel always insisted on "ONE" God, because they did not understand the one God was to come in FLESH, but they didn't understand that reason. which was to redeem man, his creation, which is why .... man is his image ..... which WAS to come.
FIRST, as spirit, without flesh, without bone, and blood, he JESUS, the Spirit, H433 אֱלוֹהַּ 'elowahh (el-o'-ah) n-m. CREATED and MADE ALL THINGS, ... ALONE and BY HIMSELF, just as Isaiah 44:24 clearly states, and John 1:3, (Now came.... IN FLESH). so, he, God, JESUS, the Spirit is first in PLACE, in the beginning, the CREATOR, just as Genesis 1:1 declares, and the definition beginning states, "FIRST FRUIT", he God is CREATOR and MAKER of ALL THING, including MAN. the TIME is beginning, and END, which clearly states the ORDER of this beginning and end, as in Ordinal designation, First and Last. which shows the RANK... in the beginning, "LORD" is the RANK, because he, JESUS, is CREATOR and MAKER of ALL THINGS, and as CREATOR, title "Father". then to come, Last, or End, the RANK, "Lord", because he, Jesus, is REDEEMER, and SAVIOUR of what he created and made, hence the title "Son". see, this is why he is the EQUAL SHARE of himself, some came close by saying the Lord Jesus is the MIRROW Image of God, as looking in a MIRROW of oneself. no, it's the EQUAL SHARE of himself in flesh.
conclusion, the term God, and beginning in Genesis 1:1 shows God plurality as one person. the title "Father", and "Son", are just that ... titles of the TRUE and LIVING God JESUS, the Eternal Spirit, yes, the HOLY SPIRIT, as the ECHAD of himself in Natural flesh (the son of GOD), see, many understand not the Spirit... the Holy Spirit is the EQUAL SHARE of himself in flesh, (Son of Man)..... first in natural flesh, resurrected in GLORIFIED in glorified flesh, now as we speak. this is why 101G know who it is that sits on the throne, and who came on Pentecost. when God open my eyes to the truth.... all those so-called hard questions of the bible .... became child play. because when one KNOW ... AND ...... UNDERSTAND the TRUTH, then the Bible becomes small, and no longer intimidating to understand. 101G thank God for him revealing himself to me. and 101G hope the same for other.
hope this help.
101G.