all you said is Nonsense. which the bible itself explain all the Greater than, (watch this, Greater in quality, or quantity), man this is too easy. as well as the 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 mistake you make, and yes, here to, the Revelation 5:6-7 mistake.
101G clearly say the Lord Jesus, whom you call the "Son" sits on the throne in heave, according to Revelation 4:2 and 3. and also, 101G states that it is JESUS, the Lamb who stand before the very throne he sits on. and 101G have bible to give understanding as to the scene taking place in chapter 5 where the Lamb takes the book out of his own Hand.... (smile), oh yes, the answer to this scene is in the bible else-where..... (smile)...
Error after error--
Your response is based on presuppositions that contradict the textual and syntactical structure of Revelation 4-5. Your assertion that Jesus is the One on the throne and the Lamb who stands before the throne collapses under scrutiny for several reasons.
1. Revelation 4:2-3 – The One on the Throne Is Not Identified as the Lamb
"And immediately I was in the Spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and One sat on the throne." (Revelation 4:2)
"And He that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone..." (Revelation 4:3)
Nowhere in Revelation 4 is the One on the throne identified as the Lamb. Instead, this figure is described in terms consistent with the Father throughout Scripture. The "jasper and sardine stone" imagery aligns with the descriptions of divine majesty seen in Ezekiel 1:26-28 and Daniel 7:9-10, where the Ancient of Days is clearly distinct from the Son of Man.
Furthermore, if Jesus is the One on the throne, why is the Lamb introduced separately in Revelation 5:6?
Your claim that Jesus is simultaneously the One sitting and standing contradicts the logic of the passage.
2. Revelation 5:6-7 – The Lamb Is Distinct from the One on the Throne
"And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain..." (Revelation 5:6)
"And He came and took the book out of the right hand of Him that sat upon the throne." (Revelation 5:7)
Your claim that Jesus takes the book
"from His own hand" is logically and textually absurd. The Greek text makes a clear distinction between ὁ καθήμενος ἐπὶ τοῦ θρόνου (the One sitting on the throne) and τὸ ἀρνίον (the Lamb). The verb ἦλθεν καὶ εἴληφεν (He came and took) indicates motion toward another entity, proving a distinction between the two figures.
If Jesus is both the One on the throne and the Lamb, why would He "approach" Himself and take the book from His own hand? This is not a mystery-it is an exegetical contradiction if one assumes Oneness theology.
3. 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 – The Son’s Subjection to the Father
"For He hath put all things under His feet. But when He saith, all things are put under Him, it is manifest that He is excepted, which did put all things under Him." (1 Corinthians 15:27)
"And when all things shall be subdued unto Him, then shall the Son also Himself be subject unto Him that put all things under Him, that God may be all in all." (1 Corinthians 15:28)
Your attempt to dismiss this passage without engaging with the syntax is inadequate.
The phrase ὁ υἱὸς καὶ αὐτὸς ὑποταγήσεται (the Son Himself will be subjected) explicitly distinguishes the Son from the One who subjected all things to Him. This is future tense (ὑποταγήσεται), showing a continuous eschatological order within the Godhead.
If Jesus is the Father, why does Paul speak of the Son being subject to the One who subjected all things? The distinction is unavoidable.
4. Your "Greater in Quality or Quantity" Argument Fails
Your claim that "greater" (μείζων) in passages like John 14:28 refers to quality or quantity rather than distinction in role ignores biblical usage:
"My Father is greater (μείζων) than I." (John 14:28)
The word μείζων refers to
rank or position, not essence (cf. BDAG, μείζων). This is why the Son can be "sent" (John 20:21) and can "receive authority" (Daniel 7:13-14) while remaining fully divine.
The argument that Jesus has all power (Matthew 28:18) does not nullify the Father’s authority. Instead, it affirms a divine order in which the Father grants authority to the Son (cf. John 5:22, 1 Corinthians 15:24-28).
5. The Bible Does Not Support Your Claim That Jesus Takes the Book from Himself
Your assertion that Revelation 5's answer lies "elsewhere in the Bible" is vague and unfounded. The plain reading of the passage refutes Oneness theology. The Father is seated on the throne, the Lamb approaches Him, and the Spirit is described as distinct (Revelation 4:5). This aligns perfectly with Trinitarian theology.
Your claim that Jesus is the One on the throne and simultaneously the Lamb contradicts the text itself. No verse supports such an assertion, nor does any biblical passage say that Jesus "takes the book from Himself."
Instead of theological gymnastics, accept what the text actually states:
The One on the throne is the Father.
The Lamb (Jesus) approaches and receives the book.
The Spirit is before the throne, proceeding from the Father and the Son.
The Oneness claim fails because it forces an interpretation onto the text that the text itself does not support.
Get it?
J.
just ask. "Yè have not because ye ask not".
