The Hypostatic Union- the 2 Natures in Christ

[civic]

Philippians 2:6-8 says He made Himself *become* as a man..

Not just in appearance... But in function and within the limits of being a man.
A man who was the PERFECT man of God of whom God held back no grace.


Philippians 2:6-8

Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!

Its the ignorance you keep walking in that continues to be a stumbling stone for you and the others here who have been indoctrinated into the same school of thought.

grace and pace .........

Deflecting again it’s a simple yes or no question. Is Jesus a human person ? Yes or no

 

[Johann]

You can but haven't. I asked you several questions and you just keep repeating the same references that are not even your words.

Is DIRT/DUST in the immaculate image of Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach Yehoshua?

Circular reasoning-you of all should know to read with Eastern lenses and not Modern day Western glasses.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Would that be like when someone cites names of creeds and titles of heresies?

There are simply references. As I told you already, if there is anything that came out of the early church that has been settled it is the distinct teachings of the Incarnation, Holy Trinity and the Hypostatic Union.

I agree that some do not understand some of those references. However, there is no reason for them not to. After all you don't have any issues with others referencing commentaries. You just have issues with certain people.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Circular reasoning-you of all should know to read with Eastern lenses and not Modern day Western glasses.

You've been quoting the work of Goble..... at least admit it.

I don't have "Western Glasses". What "westerner" have you seen in me?

 

[Johann]

I made a list. Why not deal with my list?

You're just repeating yourself. That is all you're doing without dealing with any points made that contradict your claims.

Already answered-no need to be like a hamster-going round and round.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Already answered-no need to be like a hamster-going round and round.

I don't think you honestly believe that.....

I've said enough. Claim victory if you like. It is my prayer that you fully embrace "melekh mashiach" for Who He is......

 

[GeneZ]

I made a list. Why not deal with my list?

You're just repeating yourself. That is all you're doing without dealing with any points made that contradict your claims.

OK....

1. You are a willing sinner.

How do you know?

2. You enjoy sin. You really enjoy sin.

How do you know?

3. You are total and complete depraved. (was that a typo, perhaps?)

And you are totally brainwashed in Calvinism.

4. You not only love sin, you insist upon sinning. It is your pleasure and joy.

Being subtly sadistic and taunting towards believers you instinctively feel threatened by is your pleasure and joy.

5. You've never had the power to raise anyone from the dead.

Paul Did. Elisha did. I am neither of those men...


6. You've never been "transfigured" before your disciples to the point they "trembled".

Moses had to wear a veil over his face because the Jews feared looking upon the reflected glory of God.


7a. You've never been a Master of any man. You're not my Master.

And, I thank you Lord for that one!


7b I have never followed you. Never would. Give me Jesus. He is so much better than you.

He is the Word of God....

When you were shown, "not my will but your will be done? You disappeared suddenly.
You did not want Jesus then... Though he was given to you.

I do not wish to lead you.
Only to expose you..

.........

 

[civic]

There are simply references. As I told you already, if there is anything that came out of the early church that has been settled it is the distinct teachings of the Incarnation, Holy Trinity and the Hypostatic Union.

I agree that some do not understand some of those references. However, there is no reason for them not to. After all you don't have any issues with others referencing commentaries. You just have issues with certain people.

They should not debate what they don’t understand and act like they do it will expose their errors every time.

 

[Johann]

Deflecting again it’s a simple yes or no question. Is Jesus a human person ? Yes or no

"He had to be made like His brethren in all things" Jesus' intercessory work on mankind's behalf is related to His complete understanding of our nature (cf. Heb. 2:11,18; 4:15) so He could be our great high priest.

If you can't "see" it there's a problem.

 

[sawdust]

Deflecting again it’s a simple yes or no question. Is Jesus a human person ? Yes or no

Did Jesus become as a man? Yes or no.

 

[GeneZ]

I don't think you honestly believe that.....

I've said enough. Claim victory if you like. It is my prayer that you fully embrace "melekh mashiach" for Who He is......

"A little bit of emotion.....
......................."mixed in with sworn devotion.....
....................................Brings out nothing real, other than a commotion.

Peter asked, “Lord, why can't I follow you now? I will lay down my life for you.” ​

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Then Jesus answered, “Will you really lay down your life for me? ​

Very truly I tell you, before the rooster crows, you will disown me three times!" John 13:37–38​

You think you are better than Peter?

 

[praise_yeshua]

"He had to be made like His brethren in all things" Jesus' intercessory work on mankind's behalf is related to His complete understanding of our nature (cf. Heb. 2:11,18; 4:15) so He could be our great high priest.

If you can't "see" it there's a problem.

Has Jesus Christ ever known failure? Has He ever failed? In anything He has ever done?......

You're holding on to something not worth having.....

 

[praise_yeshua]

Did Jesus become as a man? Yes or no.

Yes. However, not a total depraved man like yourself.

 

[praise_yeshua]

They should not debate what they don’t understand and act like they do it will expose their errors every time.

Sad. I hate to see it.

 

[synergy]

Did Jesus become as a man? Yes or no.

He took on human nature.
His Personhood remained and will always be the Divine Uncreated Word of God.
My answer is more concise than your question.

 

[praise_yeshua]

my mistake

 

[praise_yeshua]

He took on human nature.
His Personhood remained and will always be the Divine Uncreated Word of God

Do you think it is there "inclination to sin" or their "sin nature" that is robbing them of clear vision?

 

[Johann]

Did Jesus become as a man? Yes or no

No answer from the audience brother.

 

[GeneZ]

Deflecting again it’s a simple yes or no question. Is Jesus a human person ? Yes or no

Stop the hypocrisy.

And... Hypocrisy is what angered even sinless Jesus. He never sinned when doing so.

I am still waiting for the sun to go down so you can come out of your coffin and explain to me why Jesus (with using your concept of being God)
was able to say the following....

“Father, if you are willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine be done.” Luke 22:42,​

How many wills does God have? Why two wills? Who and what was the second will?

“And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man” (Luke 2:52).​

How can God grow in wisdom? Impossible. So, who and what grew in wisdom?

I am not saying that Jesus is not God.
What I am saying is that He is both fully God and fully man.

Not some homogenized miss mash of humanity and Deity like you slap in a bowl.
That is something you refuse to admit and hopefully someday you need to come to grips with.

And, no. I am not expecting you to change now.
My intent is to have others see how you interact and refuse to reason with chapter and verse.
It can be a valuable lesson for them to learn from.

In His service.... grace and peace.

 

[GeneZ]

Has Jesus Christ ever known failure? Has He ever failed? In anything He has ever done?......

You're hold on to something not worth having.....

Why do you keep holding onto yourself?