The Bible does not teach to pray to Jesus

[101G]

@Runningman,
understand..... a verb is not a NOUN. verbs can Identify "WHAT" you is, but not "WHO" you are in name. listen to what was asked. Exodus 3:13 "And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?" Exodus 3:14 "And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you."

WHAT is his Name. God gave Moses just what he asked, nothing no more or less. see the difference "WHAT" in a Name vs "WHO" in a name?

let's give a clear example of this from the bible, so that you may understand. if 101G would ask you, "WHAT" is the first woman name is? if you would say "Eve" you would be in ERROR. for what she is ..... "ADAM". scripture, Genesis 5:1 "This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;" Genesis 5:2 "Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.",

see, WHAT she is, is a Adam, because she is ... "Mankind". now if 101G would have asked, "WHO" is the firs woman in name, then the correct answer would be Eve. because Eve Identifies "WHO" she is in name vs "WHAT" she is in name.

now go back and see .... WHAT was asked of God by Moses, "WHAT" is your Name, or "WHO" is your Name.

101G.

 

[Runningman]

Now you're hallucinating that I might want to convert to Islam. You've lost your grip on reality with such bizarre claims.

Maybe you shouldn't go around trying to convert people to Islam unless you want them to believe you're a closet Muslim. Your strategy seems to be two fold: 1, repulse people to Christianity by being a bad example 2, encourage them to join Islam. There are certainly wolfs in our midst, but thank you for exposing yourself.

Again, Jesus explicitly said that he is the I AM in John 8:24 and in several other passages. It's come to the point that you are now blatantly contradicting what Jesus explicitly said in no uncertain terms, that he is the I AM. Remember that the door to Christianity is always open to those who believe Jesus.

Again, Exodus 3:14,15 and Acts 3:13 are solid about Jesus not being the I AM. Jesus didn't say he is the I AM. You're misunderstanding the context.

 

[Runningman]

no excuses, nor personal opinions........

second, I AM or H1961 הָיָה hayah (haw-yaw) v. it's not a noun.... it's a verb. now go and look it up

101G

We can talk theology all day, but you seriously dropped the ball when you said YHWH is a verb. It's always a noun in every single last lexicon and concordance. Names are proper nouns.

H3068. Yhvh
Strong's Lexicon
Yhvh: LORD (often rendered in all capital letters in English translations to distinguish it from other titles)
Original Word: יְהוָֹה
Part of Speech: Proper Name
Transliteration: Yhovah
Pronunciation: yah-VEH or yah-WEH
Phonetic Spelling: (yeh-ho-vaw')
Definition: LORD (often rendered in all capital letters in English translations to distinguish it from other titles)
Meaning: Jehovah

 

[Runningman]

@Runningman,
understand..... a verb is not a NOUN. verbs can Identify "WHAT" you is, but not "WHO" you are in name. listen to what was asked. Exodus 3:13 "And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?" Exodus 3:14 "And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you."

WHAT is his Name. God gave Moses just what he asked, nothing no more or less. see the difference "WHAT" in a Name vs "WHO" in a name?

let's give a clear example of this from the bible, so that you may understand. if 101G would ask you, "WHAT" is the first woman name is? if you would say "Eve" you would be in ERROR. for what she is ..... "ADAM". scripture, Genesis 5:1 "This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;" Genesis 5:2 "Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.",

see, WHAT she is, is a Adam, because she is ... "Mankind". now if 101G would have asked, "WHO" is the firs woman in name, then the correct answer would be Eve. because Eve Identifies "WHO" she is in name vs "WHAT" she is in name.

now go back and see .... WHAT was asked of God by Moses, "WHAT" is your Name, or "WHO" is your Name.

101G.

Let's try again to reach you.

Step 1: are names a noun? Yes.
Step 2: is God's name YHWH? Yes
Conclusion: YHWH is a noun.

Now go look it up.

 

[Peterlag]

You're kidding right? Real all of the post:

So just to be clear... there are no words in the Bible that say we should believe or confess that Jesus is God.

 

[Runningman]

So just to be clear... there are no words in the Bible that say we should believe or confess that Jesus is God.

That would be a pretty big thing to leave out if it were a requirement. Must not be a requirement then.

 

[synergy]

Maybe you shouldn't go around trying to convert people to Islam unless you want them to believe you're a closet Muslim. Your strategy seems to be two fold: 1, repulse people to Christianity by being a bad example 2, encourage them to join Islam. There are certainly wolfs in our midst, but thank you for exposing yourself.

Again, Exodus 3:14,15 and Acts 3:13 are solid about Jesus not being the I AM. Jesus didn't say he is the I AM. You're misunderstanding the context.

You continue to hallucinate in multiple ways.

1. As a solid Trinitarian, there is no way that I want to "convert people to Islam". How stupid do you think I am to even think of that? This clearly shows that you have lost track of reality and you are hallucinating.
2. You are flat out contradicting what Jesus explicitly declared in John 8:24 and in several other passages where he stated, in no uncertain terms, that he is the I AM. It's come to the point that you are now blatantly contradicting what Jesus explicitly declares. I can now safely say that you have reached the stage where you have lost your grip on reality to the point that you are now freely hallucinating.

 

[Runningman]

You continue to hallucinate in multiple ways.

1. As a solid Trinitarian, there is no way that I want to "convert people to Islam". How stupid do you think I am to even think of that? This clearly shows that you have lost track of reality and you are hallucinating.

May you and your Muslim fellow believers be happy

call on your local Mosque.

You're the one who thinks like a Muslim,

you could easily rise to the level of an Imam

You would make a fantastic Imam

You are already a hostage of Muslim

Didn't you just encourage me to be a Muslim since at least Friday? Now you're denying it. Are you lying or have memory problems?

 

[Runningman]

1. You are flat out contradicting what Jesus explicitly declared in John 8:24 and in several other passages where he stated, in no uncertain terms, that he is the I AM. It's come to the point that you are now blatantly contradicting what Jesus explicitly declares. I can now safely say that you have reached the stage where you have lost your grip on reality to the point that you are now freely hallucinating.

Jesus never said " I am the I am." Begin with this. Do you agree?

 

[synergy]

Jesus never said " I am the I am." Begin with this. Do you agree?

Jesus clearly declared "that I AM" in John 8:24. Do you deny that reality?

(John 8:24) Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I AM, you will die in your sins.

 

[civic]

Jesus never said " I am the I am." Begin with this. Do you agree?

the Father never said I am I am

next fallacy

 

[synergy]

Didn't you just encourage me to be a Muslim since at least Friday? Now you're denying it. Are you lying or have memory problems?

When it comes to being anti-Trinitarian, you stand shoulder to shoulder with Muslims. Why are you so embarrassed to state that truth?

 

[synergy]

the Father never said I am I am

next fallacy

I would make the Popcorn but it's really sad to see heretics resorting to hallucinations in order to cling to their imaginary world.

 

[Jay]

Only God can forgive sins, and Christ, being God, has the power to do so.

Jesus often forgave people's sins, as seen in passages like Luke 7:48, where He tells a woman, "Your sins are forgiven."

Matthew 9:2
Just then some men brought to Him a paralytic lying on a mat. When Jesus saw their faith, He said to the paralytic, “Take courage, son; your sins are forgiven.”

 

[Runningman]

When it comes to being anti-Trinitarian, you stand shoulder to shoulder with Muslims. Why are you so embarrassed to state that truth?

Nonsense. I am a Christian and I have never read the Quran. I learned everything I did about God and Jesus from the Bible.

 

[Runningman]

Jesus clearly declared "that I AM" in John 8:24. Do you deny that reality?

(John 8:24) Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I AM, you will die in your sins.

Jesus didn't say anything about being the I am in John 8:24. He said if you don't believe he is who he said he is you will die in your sins. So far it seems you don't believe he is who he said he is.

 

[Runningman]

the Father never said I am I am

next fallacy

You stepped right in that one. The Father said it in Exodus.

Exodus 3
14And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

 

[Runningman]

Only God can forgive sins, and Christ, being God, has the power to do so.

Jesus often forgave people's sins, as seen in passages like Luke 7:48, where He tells a woman, "Your sins are forgiven."

Matthew 9:2
Just then some men brought to Him a paralytic lying on a mat. When Jesus saw their faith, He said to the paralytic, “Take courage, son; your sins are forgiven.”

God gave the power to forgive sins to more than one man.

Matthew 9
6But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins...” Then He said to the paralytic, “Get up, pick up your mat, and go home.” 7And the man got up and went home.

8When the crowds saw this, they were filled with awe and glorified God, who had given such authority to men.

 

[Jay]

God gave the power to forgive sins to more than one man.

Matthew 9
6But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins...” Then He said to the paralytic, “Get up, pick up your mat, and go home.” 7And the man got up and went home.

8When the crowds saw this, they were filled with awe and glorified God, who had given such authority to men.

The Son of Man is Jesus, God in the Flash. The crowds thought falsely that He was just a man.

But that ye may know ... - That you may have full proof on that point; that you may see that I have power to forgive sin, I will perform an act which all must perceive and admit to require the power of God.

Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine own house - The fact that the paralytic man could do this would prove that a miracle was performed. He was healed by a word; it was done instantaneously; it was done in the most public manner.

The fact that a man, just before perfectly helpless, could now take up and carry his own bed or couch, proved that a divine "power" had been exerted; and that fact proved that he who had performed the miracle must also have the "power" and the "authority" to forgive sin.
Barnes' Notes on the Bible

 

[Runningman]

The Son of Man is Jesus, God in the Flash. The crowds thought falsely that He was just a man.

But that ye may know ... - That you may have full proof on that point; that you may see that I have power to forgive sin, I will perform an act which all must perceive and admit to require the power of God.

Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine own house - The fact that the paralytic man could do this would prove that a miracle was performed. He was healed by a word; it was done instantaneously; it was done in the most public manner.

The fact that a man, just before perfectly helpless, could now take up and carry his own bed or couch, proved that a divine "power" had been exerted; and that fact proved that he who had performed the miracle must also have the "power" and the "authority" to forgive sin.
Barnes' Notes on the Bible

Ok, but the other men had the power to forgive sins too. Still haven't found anything that singles Jesus out as God.