The Bible does not teach to pray to Jesus

[Runningman]

Not much to comment on due to sheer lack of supporting verses. One may argue to the contrary, but there are no explicit examples where someone taught to pray to Jesus in the Bible. There are no examples of the word "pray" or "prayer" being used in conjunction with communicating to Jesus.

The Bible teaches to pray to God the Father. That's it.

Matthew 6​

6But when you pray, go into your inner room, shut your door, and pray to your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.​

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9So then, this is how you should pray:​

‘Our Father in heaven,​

hallowed be Your name.​

 

[Fred]

There are no examples of the word "pray" or "prayer" being used in conjunction with communicating to Jesus.

The above is so easily refuted.
https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/the-trinity-made-easy.87/page-5#post-3506

 

[Runningman]

The Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of prayer in Acts 1:24-25.

It doesn't follow sound reason that suddenly without precedent, comment, or explanation someone would suddenly pray to Jesus in the Bible. Not only did none of the prophets, Jesus, or any of the disciples teach about praying to Jesus, no one apparently did in Scripture by example. Therefore, there is no mention of Jesus in Acts 1:24-25.

Jesus taught to pray to the Father in Matthew 6:6,9. Before Jesus was taken to heaven, he gave instructions on prayer and said to not ask him for anything, but rather ask the Father in John 16:23. When they prayed to the Sovereign Lord and Creator in Acts 4:24-27 it wasn't to Jesus.

Imagine a book that only teaches about praying to the Father, but never to Jesus. Sounds like Jesus isn't God.

 

[Fred]

It doesn't follow sound reason that suddenly without precedent,

He was physically with them before this time while on earth.

comment,

No need to because they knew Jesus is God.

or explanation

Same as above.

someone would suddenly pray to Jesus in the Bible.

It reads "they" in Acts 1:24.

 

[Runningman]

He was physically with them before this time.



No need to because they knew Jesus is God.



Same as above.



It reads "they" in Acts 1:24.

In Acts 1:24-25 they prayed to the Father. Based on all of the prior examples and teachings of prayer it would follow this is the case.

You have still not provided any Scripture about praying to Jesus. There isn't any.

 

[Fred]

In Acts 1:24-25 they prayed to the Father based on all of the prior examples and teachings of prayer it would follow this is the case.

The events of the NT didn't finish yet.

You have still not provided any Scripture about praying to Jesus. There isn't any.

Acts 1:24-25 is still there.

 

[Runningman]

The events of the NT didn't finish yet.



Acts 1:24-25 is still there.

Acts 1:24-25 doesn't say Jesus' name. Prior to this no one prayed to Jesus or taught about praying to Jesus. You don't have an argument to support your claim.

 

[Fred]

Acts 1:24-25 doesn't say Jesus' name.

Acts 1:24-25 doesn't say "Father" either.

Thanks for making that easy for me.

 

[Runningman]

Acts 1:24-25 doesn't say "Father" either.

Thanks for making that easy for me.

You're still here and you haven't provided any example(s) of praying to Jesus. This is embarrassing. Page 1 has been a fiasco for you.

Based on all of the prior precedents about praying to the Father, Acts 1:24-25 is about praying to the Father. The Father is the Lord of heaven and earth according to Jesus in Matthew 11:25. Do you deny they prayed to the Father in Acts 1:24-25?

Matthew 11
25At that time Jesus declared, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

Acts 1
24And they prayed, “Lord, You know everyone’s heart. Show us which of these two You have chosen 25to take up this ministry and apostleship, which Judas abandoned to go to his rightful place.”

 

[Fred]

You're still here and you haven't provided any example(s) of praying to Jesus.

Acts 1:24-25 is still there.

This is embarrassing.

It must be for you because you cannot refute the evidence I supplied in the link of post 2.

Keep hiding.

 

[Runningman]

Acts 1:24-25 is still there.



It must be for you because you cannot refute the evidence I supplied in the link of post 2.

Keep hiding.

Yes. Acts 1:24-25 that doesn't mention Jesus is still there. You have provided no arguments.

 

[Fred]

Yes. Acts 1:24-25 that doesn't mention Jesus

See post 8.

 

[Runningman]

See post 8.

See post #1.

 

[Fred]

See post #1.

See post 2.

 

[Runningman]

See post 2.

Now you're just playing games. I'll respond when someone actually brings forth an argument.

 

[Fred]

Now you're just playing games.

You are by not refuting the evidence I supplied in the link of post 2.

You should enjoy this:

https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/prayer.114/

 

[Fred]

9So then, this is how you should pray:​

‘Our Father in heaven,​

hallowed be Your name.​

The same Greek word for "hallowed"(hagiazō) in Matthew 6:9 is used in reference to the Lord Jesus in 1 Peter 3:15.

1 Peter 3:15
but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence.

The Lord Jesus is to be sanctified (hallowed) as Lord (YHWH) in worship. In fact, Peter quotes from Isaiah 8:13 and applies what is written about YHWH in direct reference to the Lord Jesus. Thus, the Lord Jesus is to be worshiped as being YHWH.

 

[Runningman]

You are by not refuting the evidence I supplied in the link of post 2.

You should enjoy this:

https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/prayer.114/

See post #1 for your argument being refuted.

 

[Runningman]

The same Greek word for "hallowed"(hagiazō) in Matthew 6:9 is used in reference to the Lord Jesus in 1 Peter 3:15.

1 Peter 3:15
but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence.

The Lord Jesus is to be sanctified (hallowed) as Lord (YHWH) in worship. In fact, Peter quotes from Isaiah 8:13 and applies what is written about YHWH in direct reference to the Lord Jesus. Thus, the Lord Jesus is to be worshiped as being YHWH.

Nothing about praying to Jesus there. This is called bad logic; it's a non sequitur - a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.

 

[Fred]

See post #1 for your argument being refuted.

See post 2 for your OP being refuted.

This thread of yours is a disaster.

This is the last post of page 1, and your false teaching has been so easily refuted.