civic
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Another dodge and refuse to answer a basic English Grammar question.
This speaks volumes about your desperation with your man made theology.
It’s De Nile
The Bible does not teach to pray to Jesus
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This speaks volumes about your desperation with your man made theology.
It’s De Nile
101G
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Another dodge and refuse to answer a basic English Grammar question.
This speaks volumes about your desperation with your man made theology.
It’s De Nile
101G see that you sincerely ..... TRY to seek the truth so, find out if the US and the OUR is a plurality of ONE the same PERSON, or a plurality of many as in separate and distinct person(S).
now let's see what the scriptures states. Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he."
now in the spirit of discussion, truthfully, is this ONE person the First .... WITH .... the Last, or is this two separate and distinct person? remember First with Last are ordinal designations in a plurality, but is it a plurality of ONE. or a plurality of two or more.
101G.
civic
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Another dodge it’s a basic simple question every elementary student learns and knows the answer.
The answer of course is plural pronouns mean more than one person.
End of discussion as you are in De Nile
101G
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LOL, LOL, LOL, so you deniy the truth of the Scriptures, for the First and with the Last is a PLURILITY of ONE PERSON. Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." also means in addition too. that's the POWER of the ECHAD in Unity of ONE. Oh too easy.
101G.
I don't have to answer questions from those who embrace a false god.
civic
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notice the double standards of asking and answering questions with a simple yes or no.
he was asked the basic English definition of a plural pronoun and we watched the dodging, running away, avoiding a direct yes or no. this speaks volumes about his error and inability to defend it with basic English and Greek definitions of WE, US and OUR.
total and complete De Nile.
101G
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LOL, LOL, LOL,notice the double standards of asking and answering questions with a smile yes or no.
he was asked the basic English definition of a plural pronoun and we watched the dodging, running away, avoiding a direct yes or no. this speaks volumes about his error and inability to defend it with basic English and Greek definitions of WE, US and OUR.
total and complete De Nile.
101G.
notice the double standards of asking and answering questions with a smile yes or no.
he was asked the basic English definition of a plural pronoun and we watched the dodging, running away, avoiding a direct yes or no. this speaks volumes about his error and inability to defend it with basic English and Greek definitions of WE, US and OUR.
total and complete De Nile.
So true.
Pancho Frijoles
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What is wrong with a philosophical argument?
Do you think that there is no biblical support to the thesis that God cannot subject to anyone or anything?
Please present one single verse in which God subjects to anyone or anything else.
I never meant that you believe God can be evil or mortal, etc. I know the two of us don't believe that, Civic.
I was just using them as examples of things that the two of us don't believe, because they are incompatible with the concept of God.
I wanted to make you aware that, by the same token, being subject to another will is also incompatible with deity.
How is a fallacy to state that God cannot subject to anything or anyone?
The roles taken by man and woman are indeed used by Paul as analogy of the roles of Christ and God.
"But I would have you know that the head of the woman is the man, the head of every man is Christ, and the head of Christ is God" ( 1 Cor 11:2-4)
In the analogy, man is not the same being than a woman and that's precisely why, under Paul's perspective, man can have authority over the woman. If man and woman were the same being, how one of them could have authority over the other?
Same with Christ and God.
Christ is not the same being than God. That's why God can have authority over Christ. If Christ and God were the same Being, how one of them could have authority over the other?
Therefore, the argument that Christ can be God even if He subjects to God is refuted, both philosophically and biblically.
Already answered a long time ago
when I told you the physical work of creation was done by Jesus Christ alone
Fallacious argument
Headship does not remove one from one class of being
Men are human
Woman are human
A woman is no less human after marriage
Your argument neither philosophically or biblically disproves Christ's deity
civic
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Amen
Runningman
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I’ll remember to use this one you the next time you ask a question.
Your answers are garbage anyway so it wouldn't matter.
Runningman
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“Who do people say the Son of Man is?”
Pancho Frijoles
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So, if I am understanding you correctly, God is a class. A category, more or less in the same way that “human” is a class or category.
There are millions of individuals who fit in the class or category “human” and there are three persons who fit in the class or category “God”.
Is that a correct appreciation of your view?
When Paul says that God is the head of Christ, does he mean that the class or category “God” rules over Christ, or that the Person “God” rules over Christ?
Dear readers:
Women are not men. That is why Paul can say that men rule over women.
Christ is not God. That is why Paul can say that God rules over Christ.
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Pancho Frijoles
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Dear civicAmen
Do you then think that God is a class or category, more or less like “human” is a class or category?
“Human” is a class or category applicable to billions of individuals.
Do you think that “God” is a class or category applicable to three Persons ?
The Bible does not treat God as a class, species, category, or attribute shared by several beings.
The Bible treats God as a Person.
Runningman
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I read it. It's very bad theology. When Jesus asked "Who do people say the Son of Man is?” the Father revealed that Jesus is the Christ and the Son of the Living God. Your answer doesn't match what the Father revealed. You're wrong.
Zero proof given.
Thus, proving the Son is God.
You hate Daniel 7:13-14 because it refutes your heresy.
This is why you ran away from it.
Simple.
