The Bible does not teach to pray to Jesus

[mikesw]

Seems you're still using theological definitions. "Coming in the flesh" is not an automatic reference to having pre-existed as God. That's a very big leap. It just refers to a face-to-face meeting as opposed to a story in sermons and writings. There were doubters that Jesus had ever existed at all. Paul provided evidence that this is so, by saying he was absent in the flesh. He inferred that if he were absent in the flesh then if he were to come to them then he would have came in the flesh. Bonus... Paul said he was with them in spirit. He isn't an omnipresent God is he?

Colossians 2
5For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.

whatever. I'm tired of your misinformation

 

[Runningman]

whatever. I'm tired of your misinformation

As long as you're discredited at every turn I am happy. That's your just return for your previous statement. If you don't won't want unstoppable resistance against your cult then get offline. I am here and not going anywhere.

 

[mikesw]

As long as you're discredited at every turn I am happy. That's your just return for your previous statement. If you don't won't want unstoppable resistance against your cult then get offline. I am here and not going anywhere.

the problem is you are happy despite not making any sufficient argument for your heretical view.

 

[Runningman]

the problem is you are happy despite not making any sufficient argument for your heretical view.

So you believe the Father being the only true God is heresy?

 

[synergy]

So you believe the Father being the only true God is heresy?

Not at all. What is heresy is you not acknowledging the Apostle's usage of the name kurios (Lord in English) as the Greek OT (Septuagint) translation of YHWH/Jehovah/Adonai.

 

[MTMattie]

A general question for everyone.

Do you reward prayer the same as worship?

 

[DavidTree]

The Bible does not teach to meet in homes, either, but it's a good thing to do that. The same is true with praying to Jesus.

The Bible, in fact, does teach to meet in homes.

Truth Fact Check : God teaches us that to call a building a 'church' is antic-christ and is from men.

 

[TomL]

Clearly the bible teaches Prayers to Jesus


Prayers to Jesus

John 14:13–14
13 And whatever you ask in my name, I will do this, in order that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.
Acts 7:59–60
59 And they kept on stoning Stephen as he was calling out and saying, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!” 60 And falling to his knees, he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them!” And after he said this, he fell asleep.
1 Corinthians 1:2
to the church of God sanctified in Christ Jesus that is in Corinth, called to be saints, together with all those who call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ in every place, their Lord and ours.
2 Corinthians 12:8
Three times I appealed to the Lord about this, that it would depart from me.
Acts 8:24
But Simon answered and said, “You pray to the Lord for me so that nothing of what you have said will come upon me.”
1 John 5:14
And this is the confidence that we have before him: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us.
1 John 5:15
And if we know that he hears us in whatever we ask, we know that we have the requests that we have asked from him.
Acts 9:14
and here he has authority from the chief priests to tie up all who call upon your name!”
2 Timothy 2:22
But flee from youthful desires, and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, in company with those who call upon the Lord from a pure heart.
Romans 10:13
For “everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved.”
Acts 9:14
and here he has authority from the chief priests to tie up all who call upon your name!”
2 Timothy 2:22
But flee from youthful desires, and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, in company with those who call upon the Lord from a pure heart.


Exported from Logos Bible Study, 10:24 AM February 27, 2025.


It also teaches we should honor Jesus as we honor the Father

John 5:23 (LEB) — 23 in order that all people will honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. The one who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him.

Prayer is one way we honor the Father

Another way is honoring Jesus as we honor the Father

The idea the bible does not support prayer to Jesus is biblically false

 

[Runningman]

Not at all. What is heresy is you not acknowledging the Apostle's usage of the name kurios (Lord in English) as the Greek OT (Septuagint) translation of YHWH/Jehovah/Adonai.

Okay, so what about the Father being the only true God do you not understand? Do you reject the face value meaning of such a statement, disagree with the rest of the world about what the word only means, or do you just interpret it theologically rather than literally?

 

[TomL]

Okay, so what about the Father being the only true God do you not understand? Do you reject the face value meaning of such a statement, disagree with the rest of the world about what the word only means, or do you just interpret it theologically rather than literally?

Have no problem with the Father being the one true God

So is Jesus and the Spirit

You are assuming God is a single person

 

[Runningman]

The Bible does not teach to meet in homes, either, but it's a good thing to do that. The same is true with praying to Jesus.

The Bible doesn't directly say a lot of things, but since there is not teaching on praying to Jesus in the Bible then it doesn't mean you can do it because it doesn't say not to. I mean, the Bible doesn't say not to pray to Satan. It doesn't say you aren't God either. You've basically opened the door up to anything. This is how cults like Trinitarianism were formed.

Why not just follow what Matthew 6:6,9 says and be done with it?

 

[Runningman]

Have no problem with the Father being the one true God

So is Jesus and the Spirit

You are assuming God is a single person

I think you have assumed God isn't a single person. The single person known as the Father is called the ONLY true God. It refers to his exclusive deity. It also implies that anyone else is a false god. Therefore a trinity god is a false god.

 

[TomL]

I think you have assumed God isn't a single person. The single person known as the Father is called the ONLY true God. It refers to his exclusive deity. It also implies that anyone else is a false god. Therefore a trinity god is a false god.

I did not assume it rather the bible tells me he is God and is identified as Yahweh along with the Father and the Spirit

 

[dwight92070]

The Bible, in fact, does teach to meet in homes.

Truth Fact Check : God teaches us that to call a building a 'church' is antic-christ and is from men.

Whew!! What church are you part of? Please give me the scripture that verifies BOTH of your statements - because I don't think you'll find scripture for either one. So consider this a Fact Check on your Fact Check.

 

[Runningman]

I did not assume it rather the bible tells me he is God and is identified as Yahweh along with the Father and the Spirit

No. The Bible doesn't tell you God is more than one person. John 17:3 tells you God is one person, known as the Father. YHWH is singular and refers to the Father. Jesus is never called YHWH in the Bible.

 

[DavidTree]

Whew!! What church are you part of? Please give me the scripture that verifies BOTH of your statements - because I don't think you'll find scripture for either one. So consider this a Fact Check on your Fact Check.

When is the last time you read the Bible???

 

[DavidTree]

Whew!! What church are you part of? Please give me the scripture that verifies BOTH of your statements - because I don't think you'll find scripture for either one. So consider this a Fact Check on your Fact Check.

WAKE-UP coffee is now served at my house = you are invited.

 

[DavidTree]

A general question for everyone.

Do you reward prayer the same as worship?

Absolutely

 

[DavidTree]

Whew!! What church are you part of? Please give me the scripture that verifies BOTH of your statements - because I don't think you'll find scripture for either one. So consider this a Fact Check on your Fact Check.

After you have another cup of 'Joe', let me know on the FACTS of the Bible in which we are addressing.

SHALOM

 

[MTMattie]

Absolutely

Good... So do I.

Now waiting til the next time someone posts against praying to Jesus so I can drop these plus more in a reply

Philippians 2:9-11
Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place and gave Him the name above all names, / that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, / and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Isaiah 45:23
By Myself I have sworn; truth has gone out from My mouth, a word that will not be revoked: Every knee will bow before Me, every tongue will swear allegiance.

Romans 14:11
It is written: “As surely as I live, says the Lord, every knee will bow before Me; every tongue will confess to God.”

Hebrews 1:6
And again, when God brings His firstborn into the world, He says: “Let all God’s angels worship Him.”

John 5:22-23
Furthermore, the Father judges no one, but has assigned all judgment to the Son, / so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

John 5:22-23
Furthermore, the Father judges no one, but has assigned all judgment to the Son, / so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

Psalm 95:6
O come, let us worship and bow down; let us kneel before the LORD our Maker.

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

Isaiah 45:23-25
I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear…