The 5 Articles of Remonstrance (Arminianism)

[Jim]

C/RT is abbreviation for.......?

Calvinism/Refromed Theology

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JESUS says you can compare @DavidTree's words to the words of God and if they agree , then so should you

I have and they don't.

And you would accuse another of being prideful. Amazing, simply amazing.

 

[DavidTree]

Calvinism/Refromed Theology

I have and they don't.

And you would accuse another of being prideful. Amazing, simply amazing.

I have and they don't.

Evidence of your accusatory claims...............of course you have none because of pride

Pride is not amazing but it does cause blindness and hardness of heart

Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me.

 

[Jim]

Evidence of your accusatory claims...............of course you have none because of pride

Pride is not amazing but it does cause blindness and hardness of heart

I see. So that is why you are blind and have a hardness of heart. OK.

 

[DavidTree]

I see. So that is why you are blind and have a hardness of heart. OK.

Evidence

No evidence makes you a false witness and accuser of the brethren

Why so much hate coming from you?

Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me.

 

[Jim]

Evidence

The evidence is your faulty reading of God's word.

 

[DavidTree]

The evidence is your faulty reading of God's word.

Well, post it then

 

[Jim]

Why so much hate coming from you?

Again, you need to look into the mirror when you make statements like that.

 

[DavidTree]

Again, you need to look into the mirror when you make statements like that.

Again, you need to provide evidence which you have not.

Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me.

 

[Jim]

Again, you need to provide evidence which you have not.

Evidence of what? That you are not a teacher? That is obvious

Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me.

And you have given no evidence of what that statement by Jesus even means/

 

[DavidTree]

Evidence of what? That you are not a teacher? That is obvious

And you have given no evidence of what that statement by Jesus even means/

Good Morning

Be Blessed Today in the LORD Jesus Christ

 

[Jim]

Good Morning

Yes, it is.

Be Blessed Today in the LORD Jesus Christ

And yes, He does.

 

[synergy]

You skipped over the question:

So in what sense of the word "draw" was Itzcoatl drawn to Jesus Christ (whom he had never heard of)?

Gentiles, who have never heard the Gospel, will be judged according to how closely they allowed themselves to be drawn to God according to their Good Works, the Law in their Hearts, their Conscience, their Heart, their Mindfulness, their Mercy, etc... according to each individual's specific case. The standard of God's judgment remains the Gospel (Cross, Resurrection, Ascension, etc...). Read Rom 2:12-16.

12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law
13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified;
14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves,
15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them)
16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.

 

[atpollard]

Gentiles, who have never heard the Gospel, will be judged according to how closely they allowed themselves to be drawn to God according to their Good Works, the Law in their Hearts, their Conscience, their Heart, their Mindfulness, their Mercy, etc... according to each individual's specific case. The standard of God's judgment remains the Gospel (Cross, Resurrection, Ascension, etc...). Read Rom 2:12-16.

You keep talking about how they will be JUDGED after they are dead.
I am asking you about Jesus’ promise to DRAW THEM TO HIMSELF while they are alive?

How are those that never hear the gospel “drawn to me (Jesus)”?

As Paul asks in Romans 10 …

• But how can they call on him to save them unless they believe in him?
• And how can they believe in him if they have never heard about him?
• And how can they hear about him unless someone tells them?
• And how will anyone go and tell them without being sent?

How indeed will Jesus draw “all men without exception”?

 

[synergy]

You keep talking about how they will be JUDGED after they are dead.
I am asking you about Jesus’ promise to DRAW THEM TO HIMSELF while they are alive?

Jesus is God. Do you believe that?
While alive, evidence of them being drawn to God is their Good Works, the Law in their Hearts, their Conscience, their Heart, their Mindfulness, their Mercy, etc..

How are those that never hear the gospel “drawn to me (Jesus)”?

That's a general question for all OT people, Jewish and Pagan. Jesus is God. He always has his abilities and ways throughout all times.

As Paul asks in Romans 10 …

• But how can they call on him to save them unless they believe in him?
• And how can they believe in him if they have never heard about him?
• And how can they hear about him unless someone tells them?
• And how will anyone go and tell them without being sent?

How indeed will Jesus draw “all men without exception”?

Now you're stepping into NT times where the Cross has made salvation possible for anyone who believes in Christ. Before the Cross, there was no salvation for anyone. Noone can be saved without the Cross. There is no other way.