I believe James 2:24 which is not a lie.I didnt say it was, I said you believe a lie.
I believe James 2:24 which is not a lie.I didnt say it was, I said you believe a lie.
James 2:24 is true, you believe a lie.I believe James 2:24 which is not a lie.
So then you believe "that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only." Excellent! Welcome to the side of truth.James 2:24 is true, you believe a lie.
This has been proven false elsewhere.Who else could it be ? Christ died only for the elect.
Can you quote a verse that says the above ?Christ died only for the elect.
No Its no verse that says verbatim "Christ died only for the elect" Yet its a scripture truth Rom 8:33-34Can you quote a verse that says the above ?
Christ died " only " for the " elect " ?
Well Paul is talking about those who are already saved in that passage. The " US " in the passage are already believers, hence they are His elect, chosen.No Its no verse that says verbatim "Christ died only for the elect" Yet its a scripture truth Rom 8:33-34
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Its only Gods elect that dont have sin charged to them for the sake of Christs death, which Justifies them.
The passage indicates that Christ died for the elect, that what Justified them, not their believing.Well Paul is talking about those who are already saved in that passage. The " US " in the passage are already believers, hence they are His elect, chosen.
only those who are already believers according to the passage. the context makes it clear its talking about those who were already saved.The passage indicates that Christ died for the elect.
Thats who becomes believers, the elect Christ died for, thats the point.only those who are already believers according to the passage. the context makes it clear its talking about those who were already saved.
that verse doesn't sat that though- you must be able to see and acknowledge that right ?Thats who becomes believers, the elect Christ died for, thats the point.
Im using that one, whether you approve or not friend.that verse doesn't sat that though- you must be able to see and acknowledge that right ?
there are better verses in scripture you could use to support your argument.
No problem then we can agree to disagree on this one.Im using that one, whether you approve or not friend.
Sure , but that means you believe that one isn't Justified before God on the sole ground that Christ died for them, right ?No problem then we can agree to disagree on this one.
I believe Christ died for everyone without distinction and only those who believe in Him will have their sins forgiven. Those who don't believe will be condemned as Jesus taught in John 3:16-18.Sure , but that means you believe that one isn't Justified before God on the sole ground that Christ died for them, right ?
Okay, you make the act of believing the condition man meets to be Justified before God, and not solely the death of Christ, I call that works.I believe Christ died for everyone without distinction and only those who believe in Him will have their sins forgiven. Those who don't believe will be condemned as Jesus taught in John 3:16-18.
the Bible doesn't call it works.Okay, you make the act of believing the condition man meets to be Justified before God, and not solely the death of Christ, I call that works.