Gods Innate Attributes

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God's attributes.. are beings... His sons and daughters... who Belong to God..
and Must be Restored to Him.

His attributes will return to Him , which is rapture.

these are the talents of the OT we are not to bury... our very souls...
which is the only part of here that He wants... nothing of this life (sin and death)
interests him.

it may seem incomprehensible that to His sons and daughters He gave
attributes... or rather, placed us as caretaking of, for Him.
just as the sons cared for the Ark and fought off God's enemies...

the problem with the typical vatican list of attributes assigned God
is that the list is vague and abstract and does not connect with
why the fallen ones wanted to make Eden fall which was
so they could imprison these attributes belonging to God..
and by that acquire the ability to create.

all the ancient texts describe the same. Hieroglyphs Gloat about
their theft and their imprisonment of us... for this is how
the prince of the air came about

Thus, jacob played out the getting Back from Esau (as a satan type 'soul') the attribute
relating to birthright that had already stolen after the fall, but not on this earth....

...and all through the OT, attributes
are won back, legally, to be returned where they Belong... to God
to whom they belong
soon..
when Christ will restore us to our land and birth right De Facto,
not only legally....

and separate us from those esau type sons of ammon for ever....

 

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I didn't say that I came to him ONLY because I don't want to go to Hell.

@Logikos
we are already in hell... and everyone is busy decorating their cells...
(their flesh life)

this earth itself is the underground prison we've been in
since barred from our Land, which is eden paradise.

All of scripture is to get us out of here, to save us from
this dungeon and bring us Home...

 

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Love is a feeling but that is only part of love. Love is always relative to the overall Character of God. As such. It is extraordinarily vast and requires intriguite reflection. Paul called God's love as the "bond of perfection".

The overall arching "bond" relative to the Character of God is "boundless love".

how do you define boundless? God does not love Esau for example.

 

[TomL]

@Logikos
we are already in hell... and everyone is busy decorating their cells...
(their flesh life)

this earth itself is the underground prison we've been in
since barred from our Land, which is eden paradise.

All of scripture is to get us out of here, to save us from
this dungeon and bring us Home...

Genesis 1:1 (KJV 1900) — 1 IN the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Genesis 1:26 (KJV 1900) — 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Genesis 6:6 (KJV 1900) — 6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

 

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Genesis 1:1 (KJV 1900) — 1 IN the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Genesis 1:26 (KJV 1900) — 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Genesis 6:6 (KJV 1900) — 6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

not this one though.

His earth was perfect and sinless .

 

[TomL]

not this one though.

His earth was perfect and sinless .

Again nowhere stated

 

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Again nowhere stated

was there not a point where man sinned?

Did He not declare it all Good Before the fall?

 

[TomL]

was there not a point where man sinned?

Did He not declare it all Good Before the fall?

Yes

But nothing is ever stated of some other planet called earth

 

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Yes

But nothing is ever stated of some other planet called earth

we are no longer in our Home with God ...

a corruption has occurred and everything been affected. His Creation was damaged, even if at most you consider that His sons and daughters are no longer there walking and talking with God. Wherever eden it, its not physically here and you cannot access it by getting in a car can you ? It is in another reality.

Eden physics did not require eating, did not include animal procreation as now by humans, did not include disease, did not include sweat and toil. Not the current type 'nature'.

 

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Again nowhere stated

Eden was a place of no pain, toil, sweat, illness, need to eat, predators, or death... Perfect. He declared her good.

 

[TomL]

Eden was a place of no pain, toil, sweat, illness, need to eat, predators, or death... Perfect. He declared her good.

Still no biblical support for the creation of some other planet

 

[TomL]

we are no longer in our Home with God ...

a corruption has occurred and everything been affected. His Creation was damaged, even if at most you consider that His sons and daughters are no longer there walking and talking with God. Wherever eden it, its not physically here and you cannot access it by getting in a car can you ? It is in another reality.

Eden physics did not require eating, did not include animal procreation as now by humans, did not include disease, did not include sweat and toil. Not the current type 'nature'.

That addresses

But nothing is ever stated biblically of some other planet called earth

How?

 

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That addresses

But nothing is ever stated biblically of some other planet called earth

How?

we are in a different land and place
having no access here in its type of physics
to eden

 

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That addresses

But nothing is ever stated biblically of some other planet called earth

How?

the physics here is Death.

Science calls this physics a type of physics that is subject to entropy = death.

Death is what God warned adam of.

Here we are.

 

[TomL]

the physics here is Death.

Science calls this physics a type of physics that is subject to entropy = death.

Death is what God warned adam of.

Here we are.

Still do not see any biblical mention of a creation of another planet called earth upon which God created man

 

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@TomL

Attributes of the physicality/Nature of eden earth

no death
no hunger or need to eat
no vicious nature
no natural disasters
not inclement weather
no toil
no illness
no sweat
no pain
being with God
no animal type procreation
no need of "material competition or progress"
He declared it Good
conclusion - Life

None of these match the current physics/'nature'

death
hunger
accidents and physical harms
'natural' disasters
vicious nature
inclement weather
toil
sweat
pain
not with God
animal procreation
material competition
progress to solve flaws in nature
not Good
conclusion - entropy/death = all goes downhill and dies

We are not even in the same type of Nature!

 

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Still do not see any biblical mention of a creation of another planet called earth upon which God created man

God did not create this... it was a result of the fall...

 

[TomL]

God did not create this... it was a result of the fall...

We heard that already

Still do not see any biblical mention of a creation of another planet called earth upon which God created man

 

[TomL]

@TomL

Attributes of the physicality/Nature of eden earth

no death
no hunger or need to eat
no vicious nature
no natural disasters
not inclement weather
no toil
no illness
no sweat
no pain
being with God
no animal type procreation
no need of "material competition or progress"
He declared it Good
conclusion - Life

None of these match the current physics/nature

death
hunger
accidents and physical harms
'natural' disasters
vicious nature
inclement weather
toil
sweat
pain
not with God
animal procreation
material competition
progress to solve flaws in nature
not Good
conclusion - entropy/death = all goes downhill and dies

We are not even in the same type of Nature!

Still do not see any biblical mention of a creation of another planet called earth upon which God created man

 

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Still do not see any biblical mention of a creation of another planet called earth upon which God created man

yes i know you do not see that we are now in a foreign land