Gods Innate Attributes

[TomL]

yes i know you do not see that we are now in a foreign land

Do you not also know the bible never speaks of the creation of another planet upon which he placed man?

 

[e v e]

Do you not also know the bible never speaks of the creation of another planet upon which he placed man?

it speaks of our landing on dry land after the flood, which i take to be this current foreign land

(so, a dimensional flood)

 

[e v e]

Do you not also know the bible never speaks of the creation of another planet upon which he placed man?

also the bible as assembled is not synonym to
His words to us.

 

[TomL]

it speaks of our landing on dry land after the flood, which i take to be this current foreign land

(so, a dimensional flood)

More extra biblical speculation

 

[e v e]

More extra biblical speculation

not really, thanks to cross reading many ancient texts.

 

[TomL]

not really, thanks to cross reading many ancient texts.

Which were not the bible which is extra biblical

 

[TomL]

also the bible as assembled is not synonym to
His words to us.

Proof for your claim?

 

[TomL]

it speaks of our landing on dry land after the flood, which i take to be this current foreign land

(so, a dimensional flood)

Dry land where the flood subsided

Thus the same land which was flooded

 

[e v e]

Dry land where the flood subsided

Thus the same land which was flooded

I would not agree it was the same dry land.

 

[e v e]

Which were not the bible which is extra biblical

God doesn't say not to study the enemy...
but yes, the vatican bullied christians, and the reformation
didn't change that utter fear to ever do so..

 

[TomL]

God doesn't say not to study the enemy...
but yes, the vatican bullied christians, and the reformation
didn't change that utter fear to ever do so..

It's still extra biblical and not to be taken as God's word

 

[TomL]

I would not agree it was the same dry land.

You cannot show from the bible it was another planet

If the flood subsided then it was the same land which was flooded

 

[e v e]

It's still extra biblical and not to be taken as God's word

Of course...

does not change the fact the septuagint and kjv
are corrupt...

 

[TomL]

Of course...

does not change the fact the septuagint and kjv
are corrupt...

In your opinion

 

[civic]

I agree with this example, only you cannot used it against the two doctrines of

Just because you cannot accept that both cannot be true of God~yet, they are very true.

Here's where faith must ruled over our own wisdom of believing in the God of the holy scriptures, whose infinite attributes are past mortal man's ability to comprehend just a very small degree of his greatness.

So, you want us to believe that both cannot be true, yet they are both true. If Elihu could say they did not know him, how much less do we know God's greatness~truly we know very little~Job 32:23~"Touching the Almighty, we cannot find him out: he is excellent in power, and in judgment, and in plenty of justice: he will not afflict.~ You would be much wiser if you went back and read Job 32-37 and humble yourself before God's greatness, and believe with child like faith what you cannot reconcile in your pitiful mind, that is incapable of knowing God's greatness, we simply accept what we can not understand because of God's testimony concerning himself ~and that testimony is: that he is a Spirit that dwells in eternity with no beginning and no end ~ and beside him, there is no God according to his own testimony.

That's good enough for me~it truly boils down to whether or not we believe the scriptures, over our finite and pitiful weak minds.

You change the meaning of eternal to mean timeless, when it does not mean that. You are using Greek logic to put God into a time box, when that is impossible. Even now, God who is a Spirit, dwells in eternity, and his Son is exalted to his right hand~(now, God does not have hands as we do, so the meaning is that Christ is exalted as high as one can be exalted in a glorified flesh who we shall see) whom Christ shall be subject to when the kingdom of God is set up in its final and eternal state of glory in the new heavens and earth. Though Jesus Christ is the true God, and eternal life, yet as a man he will be subject unto God, who is a Spirit that no one has ever seen, or will ever see, impossible and not be consumed.


Highlighted is mine for discussion.

Concerning God's attribute of being Omnipresent~is not a greek idea it is God's own testimony of himself!

Coming back to address this point.

ditto

 

[TomL]

the scripture do not agree with your explanation. Isaiah 44:24 say "I" one person. so where are the other two. now read the scripture again, and try again.

101G.

Here is the Son

Colossians 1:16 (KJV 1900) — 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Ephesians 3:9 (KJV 1900) — 9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

Hebrews 1:2 (KJV 1900) — 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Hebrews 1:10 (KJV 1900) — 10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

John 1:3 (KJV 1900) — 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

 

[101G]

Here is the Son

Colossians 1:16 (KJV 1900) — 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

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Or READ the definition of "Through" According to the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English clear up the Matter. Listen and Learn, 3. Through, or with, denoting the agent, means, instrument or cause.
and Isaiah 44:24 states he was "BY, BY, BY, HIMSELF" and as the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary states, Through or "WITH", and WITH is the SAME one person, just as the First is .... "WITH" ...the Last.... or as John 1:1 states, the Word was "WITH" God, and .... listen "and the Word was God". bingo, the same One Person. because Isaiah 44:24 states he was "ALONE", and if ALONE, there is no one else to go through..... (smile)... Oh dear,... when will they ever Learn. PLEASE read a dictionary First.... ok.

101G.

 

[TomL]

see post

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and see post

• #50

Or READ the definition of "Through" According to the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English clear up the Matter. Listen and Learn, 3. Through, or with, denoting the agent, means, instrument or cause.
and Isaiah 44:24 states he was "BY, BY, BY, HIMSELF" and as the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary states, Through or "WITH", and WITH is the SAME one person, just as the First is .... "WITH" ...the Last.... or as John 1:1 states, the Word was "WITH" God, and .... listen "and the Word was God". bingo, the same One Person. because Isaiah 44:24 states he was "ALONE", and if ALONE, there is no one else to go through..... (smile)... Oh dear,... when will they ever Learn. PLEASE read a dictionary First.... ok.

101G.

And the agent, or the means is other than oneself

and with indicates another not one



Hello

 

[101G]

And the agent, or the means is other than oneself

and with indicates another not one



Hello

he's no agent, and the "Other than oneself" is your two main mistakes. and here's why. G243 Allos (ANOTHER) is clear, Allos expresses a numerical difference and denotes another of the same sort. a numerical difference is FIRST and LAST, BEGINNING and END, ALPHA and OMEGA, and ROOT and OFFSPRING. that's the NUMERICAL DIFFERENCE... not the SAME "SORT" sort means, 1. a particular kind, species, variety, class, or group, distinguished by a common character or nature 2. character, quality, or nature..... Now the same, same, same, "SORT?". yes, the same Spirit, with the SAME character, quality, or nature. supportive scripture, Hebrews 1:3 "Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;"

now the Revelation, The same Sort/Nature.... "Spirit". same character is the same PERSON... because the term "EXPRESS IMANGE of, of, HIS ... PERSON". read that again, his person.... meaning the "EXACT" same person because "Express" means Exact".

one has to IGNORANT and dishonest not to understand this.

101G.

 

[TomL]

he's no agent, and the "Other than oneself" is your two main mistakes. and here's why. G243 Allos (ANOTHER) is clear, Allos expresses a numerical difference and denotes another of the same sort. a numerical difference is FIRST and LAST, BEGINNING and END, ALPHA and OMEGA, and ROOT and OFFSPRING. that's the NUMERICAL DIFFERENCE... not the SAME "SORT" sort means, 1. a particular kind, species, variety, class, or group, distinguished by a common character or nature 2. character, quality, or nature..... Now the same, same, same, "SORT?". yes, the same Spirit, with the SAME character, quality, or nature. supportive scripture, Hebrews 1:3 "Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;"

now the Revelation, The same Sort/Nature.... "Spirit". same character is the same PERSON... because the term "EXPRESS IMANGE of, of, HIS ... PERSON". read that again, his person.... meaning the "EXACT" same person because "Express" means Exact".

one has to IGNORANT and dishonest not to understand this.

101G.

Same sort does not indicate a numerical singularity

and a numerical difference is more than just one

This is more using a globe to argue for a flat earth.