No. They are not.
Free-willer Straw Man Argument
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I see no evidence of said claims. Just boastful assertions.Much better than youTry and stay focused on tulip- I just proved from a reformed view the U and I in tulip when I was a calvinist and all the calvinists on the forum affirmed it too. You have not done that once on this forum.
No it is not the same
civic
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I big one lol
Ooops
civic
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Looks like those I tagged affirmed it’s true and your opinion is meaningless on the issue and has no merit. And the link proves it as well. @PeanutGallery gallery knows I was a Calvinist too since I debated him for over a decade on the other forum as a Calvinist.
Your false assertions about me are as valid as your false assertions about tulip. Neither are true.
no facts to back up the claims. hope this helps !!!
If there are only two means (Sanctification of the Spirit and Belief in the Truth) capable of allowing a goal to occur (Election onto Salvation), then those two means are conditions of allowing that goal to happen, as they represent the necessary paths or only options available for allowing the desired outcome to occur.
It's called the Necessary Path (a subset of the Critical Path) in Logic.
If all you have is a "No" then it's a slam dunk for the non-Calvinist side.
civic
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ThatLooks like those I tagged affirmed it’s true and your opinion is meaningless on the issue and has no merit. And the link proves it as well. @PeanutGallery gallery knows I was a Calvinist too since I debated him for over a decade on the other forum as a Calvinist.
Your false assertions about me are as valid as your false assertions about tulip. Neither are true.
hope this helps !!!
Who said there are only two means??
It is meaningless as is there's. I can only go by what I see. What I see is a wannabe.Looks like those I tagged affirmed it’s true and your opinion is meaningless on the issue and has no merit. And the link proves it as well. @PeanutGallery gallery knows I was a Calvinist too since I debated him for over a decade on the other forum as a Calvinist.
Your false assertions about me are as valid as your false assertions about tulip. Neither are true.
hope this helps !!!
They have 2 Achilles heels. Their other one is their dirt poor understanding of the English Language. Calvinists Recruiters are always ready to swoop down and recruit those who fail their English Comprehension classes.Oh good one using logic and reasoning with themtheir Achilles heel
It's not our fault you don't know what through means. LOL Your ignorance is not our fault.
Rockson
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What are you suggesting that he was an uncover Non Calvinist all those years?
What other means are there? I'll get the popcorn.
Crack open a Bible and you will see the word "through" mentioned twice in 2 Th 2:13. Stop embarrassing yourself with your dirt poor understanding of the English Language. Calvinists Recruiters are always ready to swoop down and recruit those who fail their English Comprehension classes.
13 But we must always give thanks to God for you, brothers and sisters beloved by the Lord, because God chose you as the first fruits for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and through belief in the truth.
praise_yeshua
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Predestination..... It always matters till it doesn't with a Calvinist. Isn't it amazing how they are always the beneficiaries of when it doesn't.
praise_yeshua
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What other means are there? I'll get the popcorn.
2 Th 2:13. Crack open a Bible and you will see the word "through" mentioned twice. Stop embarrassing yourself with your dirt poor understanding of the English Language. Calvinists Recruiters are always ready to swoop down and recruit those who fail their English Comprehension classes.
13 But we must always give thanks to God for you, brothers and sisters beloved by the Lord, because God chose you as the first fruits for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and through belief in the truth.
I mean geesh......like somehow "more means ".... EXCLUDES those mentioned.
Talk about zonked logic.
That's why calvinists are the village idiots in many countries.
Well let's see. How about the resurrection? Regeneration?What other means are there? I'll get the popcorn.
Crack open a Bible and you will see the word "through" mentioned twice in 2 Th 2:13. Stop embarrassing yourself with your dirt poor understanding of the English Language. Calvinists Recruiters are always ready to swoop down and recruit those who fail their English Comprehension classes.
13 But we must always give thanks to God for you, brothers and sisters beloved by the Lord, because God chose you as the first fruits for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and through belief in the truth.
Is that what I said? I simply said I don't think he is the Calvinist expert he claims to be.
Ahhh...here comes the ad homs. Not faring so we'll?Talk about zonked logic.
That's why calvinists are the village idiots in many countries.
