Foreknew in Romans 8 is a verb. It's not what He foreknows. It's who.
And is also irrelevant to your silly premise that God chooses them who choose Him.
Free-willer Straw Man Argument
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And is also irrelevant to your silly premise that God chooses them who choose Him.
praise_yeshua
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God knew Christ. Christ is Eternally. Why in the world would God want to know your totally depraved self? God doesn't choose evil things like you.
Conformity is absolute proof that God didn't choose you.
The Rogue Tomato
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Oh, but didn't you know that God helps those who help themselves? It's in there in the Bible somewhere.
praise_yeshua
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You can "squirm" all you want. How does any of this apply to you? You're not referenced anywhere.
praise_yeshua
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If God choose you, then why do you need to change? You're dishonoring Christ and you don't care at all.
praise_yeshua
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Oh, but didn't you know that God helps those who help themselves? It's in there in the Bible somewhere.
I suppose you believe the government should do everything for you.... Right? I mean you are helpless and helpless people demand to be served.....
praise_yeshua
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Seeking requires free will.......
Especially when it is God that is doing the seeking from another.
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
Especially when it is God that is doing the seeking from another.
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
The Rogue Tomato
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I don't bother reading his posts anymore. I'm fresh out of LSD.
LOL, should have shared it with him. It might have helped. Or not...
praise_yeshua
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Two false claims here.
1. You keep claiming you're ignoring and then keep responding.
2. There is no reason to believe you're actually out of LSD.
praise_yeshua
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You need something stronger than LSD to believe what you're peddling. Everything is about you. It always is. Don't pretend you care about God when all you do is talk about yourself.
and it is related to
Romans 8:28–29 (ESV) — 28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. 29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.
those who loved God
Um there is nothing about from the foundation of the world in Rom 8:28ff
The Rogue Tomato
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Is that the only book/chapter/verse you have in your Bible?
Great. It's still a verb. It's not what He knows.
No one said there was. Who said it did?
The Rogue Tomato
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Exactly. It is whom He knows. It says very specifically, For those whom he foreknew. It doesn't say "For He foreknew what they would do." That's foresight. Totally different thing.
I believe you did
Um that is passage being discussed
