brightfame52
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When was Jesus made a surety ?
Eternal Justification !
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When you answer this
How can one be justified and dead in sin at the same time?
Ephesians 2:1–3 (NASB 2020) — 1 And you were dead in your offenses and sins, 2 in which you previously walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all previously lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the rest.
Your theology is irrational
BTW it is a surety of a better testament not the surety of unconditionally preselected men's salvation
brightfame52
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When was Jesus made a surety ? Was He a surety to them in Eph 2:1-3 ? When ?
When you answer this
How can one be justified and dead in sin at the same time?
Ephesians 2:1–3 (NASB 2020) — 1 And you were dead in your offenses and sins, 2 in which you previously walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all previously lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the rest.
Your theology is irrational
BTW it is a surety of a better testament not the surety of unconditionally preselected men's salvation
brightfame52
Well-known member
When was Jesus made a surety ? Was He a surety to them in Eph 2:1-3 ? When ?
When you answer this
How can one be justified and dead in sin at the same time?
Ephesians 2:1–3 (NASB 2020) — 1 And you were dead in your offenses and sins, 2 in which you previously walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all previously lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the rest.
Your theology is irrational
BTW it is a surety of a better testament not the surety of unconditionally preselected men's salvation
brightfame52
Well-known member
When was Jesus made a surety ? Was He a surety to them in Eph 2:1-3 ? When ?
When you answer this
How can one be justified and dead in sin at the same time?
Ephesians 2:1–3 (NASB 2020) — 1 And you were dead in your offenses and sins, 2 in which you previously walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all previously lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the rest.
Your theology is irrational
BTW it is a surety of a better testament not the surety of unconditionally preselected men's salvation
Also BTW there is no mention of a surety in Eph 2:1-3
brightfame52
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When was Jesus made a surety ? Was He a surety to them in Eph 2:1-3 ? When ?
When you answer this
How can one be justified and dead in sin at the same time?
Ephesians 2:1–3 (NASB 2020) — 1 And you were dead in your offenses and sins, 2 in which you previously walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all previously lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the rest.
Your theology is irrational
BTW it is a surety of a better testament not the surety of unconditionally preselected men's salvation
Also BTW there is no mention of a surety in Eph 2:1-3
brightfame52
Well-known member
When was Jesus made a surety ? Was He a surety to them in Eph 2:1-3 ? When ? What is the responsibility of a Surety ?
When you answer this
How can one be justified and dead in sin at the same time?
Ephesians 2:1–3 (NASB 2020) — 1 And you were dead in your offenses and sins, 2 in which you previously walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all previously lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the rest.
Your theology is irrational
BTW it is a surety of a better testament not the surety of unconditionally preselected men's salvation
Also BTW there is no mention of a surety in Eph 2:1-3
brightfame52
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When was Jesus made a surety ? Was He a surety to them in Eph 2:1-3 ? When ? What is the responsibility of a Surety ?
civic
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Yes it’s an oxymoron
When you answer this
How can one be justified and dead in sin at the same time?
Ephesians 2:1–3 (NASB 2020) — 1 And you were dead in your offenses and sins, 2 in which you previously walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all previously lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the rest.
Your theology is irrational
BTW it is a surety of a better testament not the surety of unconditionally preselected men's salvation
Also BTW there is no mention of a surety in Eph 2:1-3
Like most of his theology
brightfame52
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The Lord Jesus Christ as Surety for the Elect Heb 7:22, though He didn't die actually for their sins until in time 33 ad, yet as Surety of the Everlasting Covenant, He became responsible for their sins, under obligation for their sins, from all eternity, hence He is termed the Lamb slain from the foundation Rev 13:8, and by virtue of this eternal obligation, the elect were always Justified, even before He came into the world.
How can one be justified and dead in sin at the same time?
Ephesians 2:1–3 (NASB 2020) — 1 And you were dead in your offenses and sins, 2 in which you previously walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all previously lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the rest.
brightfame52
Well-known member
When was Jesus made a surety ? Was He a surety to them in Eph 2:1-3 ? When ? What is the responsibility of a Surety ?
brightfame52
Well-known member
The Lord Jesus Christ as Surety for the Elect Heb 7:22, though He didn't die actually for their sins until in time 33 ad, yet as Surety of the Everlasting Covenant, He became responsible for their sins, under obligation for their sins, from all eternity, hence He is termed the Lamb slain from the foundation Rev 13:8, and by virtue of this eternal obligation, the elect were always Justified, even before He came into the world.
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