Eternal Justification !

[brightfame52]

Sorry the fact is

Ephesians 2:1–3 (NASB 2020) — 1 And you were dead in your offenses and sins, 2 in which you previously walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all previously lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the rest.

these were not justified previously

In the mind and purpose of God our redemption by Christ was accomplished in eternity., by which purpose He was slain from the foundation of the world, and their Names were written in the Lambs Book of Life as Early. You think those whose Names were written in the Book of Life were condemned by God ?

 

[TomL]

In the mind and purpose of God our redemption by Christ was accomplished in eternity., by which purpose He was slain from the foundation of the world, and their Names were written in the Lambs Book of Life as Early. You think those whose Names were written in the Book of Life were condemned by God ?

Sorry the fact is

Ephesians 2:1–3 (NASB 2020) — 1 And you were dead in your offenses and sins, 2 in which you previously walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all previously lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the rest.

these were not justified previously

 

[brightfame52]

Sorry the fact is

Ephesians 2:1–3 (NASB 2020) — 1 And you were dead in your offenses and sins, 2 in which you previously walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all previously lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the rest.

these were not justified previously

In the mind and purpose of God our redemption by Christ was accomplished in eternity., by which purpose He was slain from the foundation of the world, and their Names were written in the Lambs Book of Life as Early. You think those whose Names were written in the Book of Life were condemned by God ?

Yes they were Justified before God in that condition ! All that sinful condition was charged to Christ

 

[brightfame52]

The Supralapsarian view of Salvation contributes to the Truth of Eternal Justification, Salvation before the foundation. I quote Vincent Cheung:

Although consequent absolute necessity is the "classic Protestant position,"4 there is a more accurate position on the necessity of the atonement. In an earlier discussion on the order of the eternal decrees, we have established supralapsarianism and refuted infralapsarianism. And from the perspective of supralapsarianism, the decree to redeem the chosen ones is logically prior to the decree for the fall of man. Thus the work of Christ in redemption was not a reaction to the fall of man; rather, God first decreed atonement for the chosen ones, and then he decreed the fall of man so that the atonement could happen. Christ was "chosen before the creation of the world" (1 Peter 1:20) to be the lamb of God, that is, an atoning sacrifice. Paul writes that "eternal life" was "promised before the beginning of time" to "God's elect" (Titus 1:1-2), and that God selected the individuals that he would redeem "before the creation of the world" (Ephesians 1:4). God selected Christ as the redeemer and decided to redeem the elect before the creation of the world. In God's mind, he saved the elect before they sinned. This means that the possibility never existed that God would not redeem his chosen ones by the death of Christ. According to the logical order, the salvation of the elect was a certainty before the fall of humanity https://www.vincentcheung.com/books/Systematic Theology.pdf 13

 

[TomL]

In the mind and purpose of God our redemption by Christ was accomplished in eternity., by which purpose He was slain from the foundation of the world, and their Names were written in the Lambs Book of Life as Early. You think those whose Names were written in the Book of Life were condemned by God ?

Yes they were Justified before God in that condition ! All that sinful condition was charged to Christ

So did he forget when inspiring scripture

Ephesians 2:1–3 (NASB 2020) — 1 And you were dead in your offenses and sins, 2 in which you previously walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all previously lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the rest.

these were not justified previously

 

[brightfame52]

So did he forget when inspiring scripture

Ephesians 2:1–3 (NASB 2020) — 1 And you were dead in your offenses and sins, 2 in which you previously walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all previously lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the rest.

these were not justified previously

In the mind and purpose of God our redemption by Christ was accomplished in eternity., by which purpose He was slain from the foundation of the world, and their Names were written in the Lambs Book of Life as Early. You think those whose Names were written in the Book of Life were condemned by God ?

Yes they were Justified before God in that condition ! All that sinful condition was charged to Christ

 

[TomL]

In the mind and purpose of God our redemption by Christ was accomplished in eternity., by which purpose He was slain from the foundation of the world, and their Names were written in the Lambs Book of Life as Early. You think those whose Names were written in the Book of Life were condemned by God ?

Yes they were Justified before God in that condition ! All that sinful condition was charged to Christ

Can you address the issue.

So did he forget when inspiring scripture

Ephesians 2:1–3 (NASB 2020) — 1 And you were dead in your offenses and sins, 2 in which you previously walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among them we too all previously lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the rest.

these were not justified previously

 

[brightfame52]

Excerpt from the writings of John Gill:

(3.) Christ was set up from everlasting, as the Mediator of this covenant: his goings forth, and acting therein, on the behalf of his people, were of old, from everlasting. He then engaged to be a surety for them, and was accepted of by God the Father as such; who thence forward, to use the Doctor's words, just now cited, looked for his debt, and expected satisfaction of him, and let the sinners go free, for whom he engaged. Looking at him for the payment, he looked at them as discharged; and they were so in his eternal mind, and, in this respect, were justified from eternity. And indeed, it is a rule that will hold good, "That as soon as any one becomes a surety for another, the other is immediately freed, if the surety be accepted;" which is the case here. And it is certainly most prudential, when a man has a bad debt, and has good security for it, to have his eye upon the bondsman or surety for payment, and not upon the principal debtor, who will never he able to pay him.

(4.) That as soon as Christ became a surety, the sins of all those persons, for whom he became a surety, were reckoned and accounted to him; and, if accounted to him, then not to them; if they were laid to his charge, then not to theirs; and, if he was answerable for them, then they were discharged from them. If there was an imputation of them to him, then there must he a non-imputation of them to them; which the apostle plainly intimates, when he says, God was in Christ, that is, from everlasting, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them. (2 Cor. 5:9) Witsius, citing this text of scripture, says: "God hath reconciled the whole world of his elect to himself, and hath declared that he will not impute their trespasses to them, and that because of the consummate satisfaction of Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:19, wherefore, says he, I am of opinion, that this act of God may be called the general justification of the elect." Nor ought it to he thought strange, foreign, or far-fetched, that the justification of God's people is inferred from the imputation of their sins to Christ, and the non-imputation of them to them; since the apostle Paul, in Romans 4:6-8, has so manifestly deduced, and strongly concluded the imputation of righteousness, which is the ratio formulis of justification, from the non-imputation of sin, and remission of it.

John Gill - The Doctrine Of Justification, By The Righteousness Of Christ, Stated And Maintained

articles.ochristian.com

 

[civic]

Excerpt from the writings of John Gill:

(3.) Christ was set up from everlasting, as the Mediator of this covenant: his goings forth, and acting therein, on the behalf of his people, were of old, from everlasting. He then engaged to be a surety for them, and was accepted of by God the Father as such; who thence forward, to use the Doctor's words, just now cited, looked for his debt, and expected satisfaction of him, and let the sinners go free, for whom he engaged. Looking at him for the payment, he looked at them as discharged; and they were so in his eternal mind, and, in this respect, were justified from eternity. And indeed, it is a rule that will hold good, "That as soon as any one becomes a surety for another, the other is immediately freed, if the surety be accepted;" which is the case here. And it is certainly most prudential, when a man has a bad debt, and has good security for it, to have his eye upon the bondsman or surety for payment, and not upon the principal debtor, who will never he able to pay him.

(4.) That as soon as Christ became a surety, the sins of all those persons, for whom he became a surety, were reckoned and accounted to him; and, if accounted to him, then not to them; if they were laid to his charge, then not to theirs; and, if he was answerable for them, then they were discharged from them. If there was an imputation of them to him, then there must he a non-imputation of them to them; which the apostle plainly intimates, when he says, God was in Christ, that is, from everlasting, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them. (2 Cor. 5:9) Witsius, citing this text of scripture, says: "God hath reconciled the whole world of his elect to himself, and hath declared that he will not impute their trespasses to them, and that because of the consummate satisfaction of Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:19, wherefore, says he, I am of opinion, that this act of God may be called the general justification of the elect." Nor ought it to he thought strange, foreign, or far-fetched, that the justification of God's people is inferred from the imputation of their sins to Christ, and the non-imputation of them to them; since the apostle Paul, in Romans 4:6-8, has so manifestly deduced, and strongly concluded the imputation of righteousness, which is the ratio formulis of justification, from the non-imputation of sin, and remission of it.

John Gill - The Doctrine Of Justification, By The Righteousness Of Christ, Stated And Maintained

articles.ochristian.com

" Eternal Justification " is found nowhere in the Bible its made up theology, just like covenant theology is made up.

 

[TomL]

Excerpt from the writings of John Gill:

(3.) Christ was set up from everlasting, as the Mediator of this covenant: his goings forth, and acting therein, on the behalf of his people, were of old, from everlasting. He then engaged to be a surety for them, and was accepted of by God the Father as such; who thence forward, to use the Doctor's words, just now cited, looked for his debt, and expected satisfaction of him, and let the sinners go free, for whom he engaged. Looking at him for the payment, he looked at them as discharged; and they were so in his eternal mind, and, in this respect, were justified from eternity. And indeed, it is a rule that will hold good, "That as soon as any one becomes a surety for another, the other is immediately freed, if the surety be accepted;" which is the case here. And it is certainly most prudential, when a man has a bad debt, and has good security for it, to have his eye upon the bondsman or surety for payment, and not upon the principal debtor, who will never he able to pay him.

(4.) That as soon as Christ became a surety, the sins of all those persons, for whom he became a surety, were reckoned and accounted to him; and, if accounted to him, then not to them; if they were laid to his charge, then not to theirs; and, if he was answerable for them, then they were discharged from them. If there was an imputation of them to him, then there must he a non-imputation of them to them; which the apostle plainly intimates, when he says, God was in Christ, that is, from everlasting, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them. (2 Cor. 5:9) Witsius, citing this text of scripture, says: "God hath reconciled the whole world of his elect to himself, and hath declared that he will not impute their trespasses to them, and that because of the consummate satisfaction of Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:19, wherefore, says he, I am of opinion, that this act of God may be called the general justification of the elect." Nor ought it to he thought strange, foreign, or far-fetched, that the justification of God's people is inferred from the imputation of their sins to Christ, and the non-imputation of them to them; since the apostle Paul, in Romans 4:6-8, has so manifestly deduced, and strongly concluded the imputation of righteousness, which is the ratio formulis of justification, from the non-imputation of sin, and remission of it.

John Gill - The Doctrine Of Justification, By The Righteousness Of Christ, Stated And Maintained

articles.ochristian.com

Try quoting the bible. It's authoritative Gill is not

 

[brightfame52]

" Eternal Justification " is found nowhere in the Bible its made up theology, just like covenant theology is made up.

You cant find it in the bile.

 

[brightfame52]

Try quoting the bible. It's authoritative Gill is not

Its biblical, you dont see it.

 

[TomL]

Its biblical, you dont see it.

Try quoting the bible. It's authoritative Gill is not

 

[TomL]

You cant find it in the bile.

It's not there

Ephesians 2:11–12 (KJV 1900) — 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

 

[brightfame52]

Try quoting the bible. It's authoritative Gill is not

Its biblical, you dont see it.

 

[brightfame52]

It's not there

Ephesians 2:11–12 (KJV 1900) — 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

You cant find it in the bible.

 

[TomL]

You cant find it in the bible.

How did you answer scripture

Ephesians 2:11–12 (KJV 1900) — 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

 

[brightfame52]

How did you answer scripture

Ephesians 2:11–12 (KJV 1900) — 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

They are eternally Justified