Eternal Justification !

[brightfame52]

Saved in the Purpose of God equals Eternal Justification !4

Now many enemies of the Gospel Doctrine of Non Imputation, which does equate to Eternal Justification, they make the slanderous accusation that , for one to believe in Eternal Justification, it must mean they have no regard for the Cross of Christ, but that is a slander and misrepresentation, and here is why:

Justification is derived from non imputation of sin, which we have reasonably concluded to be first and foremost from before the foundation of the world, based upon these Two scriptures 1 Pet 1:20; Rev 13:8, where its obvious God has purposed to impute sin on Christ, in order for Him to die for them in the fullness of time Gal 4:4; 1 Cor 15:3;

Hence Eternal Justification, Non Imputation of sin has its premise on God imputing the sins of the elect upon Christ, so that He in the fullness of time would come and die for them, and so this shows the enemies of the Gospel [EJ is an Gospel Truth] that their accusations are false and unjust, for EJ has everything to do with Christ's Death for Imputed sins of the Elect to Him !8

 

[brightfame52]

Saved in the Purpose of God equals Eternal Justification !5

Because of the Non Imputation of sin, and that from before the foundation, there can never be condemnation to them which are in Christ Rom 8:1

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

How could it be when those in Christ where Chosen in Him before the foundation Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

And Grace was given them in Him [Christ Jesus] before the World began 2 Tim 1:9

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

So in reality they themselves have never been condemned by God ! That is not to say they were not guilty of sin and condemnation Rom 5:18

18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

However the Guilt and Charge of it was Charged to Christ before the World Began 1 Pet 1:20

20 Who verily was foreordained[For Redemption] before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Rev 13:8

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain [for sins charged to Him] from the foundation of the world.
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So the deserved condemnation of Rom 5:18 was not legally charged to them personally in Christ Rom 8:1 !

 

[TomL]

Saved in the Purpose of God equals Eternal Justification !5

Because of the Non Imputation of sin, and that from before the foundation, there can never be condemnation to them which are in Christ Rom 8:1

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

How could it be when those in Christ where Chosen in Him before the foundation Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

And Grace was given them in Him [Christ Jesus] before the World began 2 Tim 1:9

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

So in reality they themselves have never been condemned by God ! That is not to say they were not guilty of sin and condemnation Rom 5:18

18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

However the Guilt and Charge of it was Charged to Christ before the World Began 1 Pet 1:20

20 Who verily was foreordained[For Redemption] before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Rev 13:8

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain [for sins charged to Him] from the foundation of the world.
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So the deserved condemnation of Rom 5:18 was not legally charged to them personally in Christ Rom 8:1 !

Sorry that is plainly unbiblical

Even your elect were dead in trespasses and sin

Ephesians 2:1–12 (KJV 1900) — 1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved 6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

 

[brightfame52]

Sorry that is plainly unbiblical

Even your elect were dead in trespasses and sin

Ephesians 2:1–12 (KJV 1900) — 1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved 6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

The elect were Justified in Christ by purpose and grace given them in Christ before the world began. And Eph 2:1-12 shows why it was unconditional, look at the condition they were in by nature.

 

[TomL]

The elect were Justified in Christ by purpose and grace given them in Christ before the world began. And Eph 2:1-12 shows why it was unconditional, look at the condition they were in by nature.

Sorry that is plainly unbiblical

Even your elect were dead in trespasses and sin

Ephesians 2:1–12 (KJV 1900) — 1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved 6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

 

[brightfame52]

Sorry that is plainly unbiblical

Even your elect were dead in trespasses and sin

Ephesians 2:1–12 (KJV 1900) — 1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved 6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

The elect were Justified in Christ by purpose and grace given them in Christ before the world began 2 Tim 1:9. And Eph 2:1-12 shows why it was unconditional, look at the condition they were in by nature.

 

[TomL]

The elect were Justified in Christ by purpose and grace given them in Christ before the world began 2 Tim 1:9. And Eph 2:1-12 shows why it was unconditional, look at the condition they were in by nature.

Sorry you cannot be justified and dead in sins and without hope at the same time

Even your elect were dead in trespasses and sin

Ephesians 2:1–12 (KJV 1900) — 1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved 6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

Your claims are irrational

 

[brightfame52]

Sorry you cannot be justified and dead in sins and without hope at the same time

Even your elect were dead in trespasses and sin

Ephesians 2:1–12 (KJV 1900) — 1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved 6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

Your claims are irrational

The elect were Justified in Christ by purpose and grace given them in Christ before the world began 2 Tim 1:9. And Eph 2:1-12 shows why it was unconditional, look at the condition they were in by nature.

 

[civic]

Saved in the Purpose of God equals Eternal Justification !

Did you know that all who are in time converted by the Gospel, which is a saving in and of itself, saved by the Power of the Gospel Rom 1:16

16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation[conversion] to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

1 Cor 1:18,21

18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved[converted] it is the power of God.

21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

Saved by the Spirits Renewing/Sanctification Titus 3:5

5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

2 Thess 2:13,14

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel[The Power of God Rom 1:16], to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

These were already saved in te Purpose of God 2 Tim 1:9

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

Now understand, In the Purpose of God, all for whom Christ would die for in Time @ the Cross of Calvary, to bare their sins in His own Body 1 Pet 2:24, they were already saved from their sins penalty incurred by Adam Rom 5:12 and with regard to their own personal sins Rom 5:16 and here the many offences comes from all the personal sins of those who at first sinned in their Federal and Natural head Adam, Adams sin was their inlet sin for the avalanche of sins they would commit upon physical birth;

Yet in the Purpose of God, they were Saved from, Justified from them by the Non Imputation of their sins unto them, and this blessing before the foundation is a vital branch of Eternal Salvation Heb 5:9, in that there was a world of people Chosen in Christ before the foundation, whom God would not charge or impute with their sins 2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

no one is justified or saved before they exist.

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[civic]

Sorry you cannot be justified and dead in sins and without hope at the same time

Even your elect were dead in trespasses and sin

Ephesians 2:1–12 (KJV 1900) — 1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved 6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

Your claims are irrational

a big OOPS lol.

 

[brightfame52]

no one is justified or saved before they exist.

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Saved in the Purpose of God equals Eternal Justification !

 

[TomL]

a big OOPS lol.

Rational thought need not be considered in his/her doctrine

 

[brightfame52]

Christ our Surety from Everlasting, so Justified the same !

Christ , if He died for us was Our Surety Heb 7:22

22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

Christ shedding His Blood was out of a Suretyship responsibility to a better covenant or testament Matt 26:28

28 For this is my blood of the new/better testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

The many here are them He was made a surety for !

Now the question is, when did Christ become their Surety ? It was before the foundation of the world, thats why we have scriptures like 1 Pet 1:20

20 Who verily was foreordained[to die] before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Rev 13:8

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

He was slain in His Suretyship Purpose from the foundation of the World, meaning though He had not already in time died, yet it had already before time been determined that He would die as a Surety, so Jesus said Lk 22:22

And truly the Son of man goeth, as it was determined: but woe unto that man by whom he is betrayed!

It had been determined by the Eternal Counsels of the Godhead that Christ would come and die a Surety Death for the sins of God's Chosen People, those Chosen in the Surety before the foundation Eph 1:4. 9

 

[brightfame52]

Eternal Justification and Acceptation in Christ​

Ephesians 1:3-6​

The Scriptures declare that God’s elect were “accepted in the Beloved” and “blessed with all spiritual blessings” in him “before the foundation of the world.” Were we accepted and blessed in and with Christ from eternity as righteous or as unrighteous? The obvious answer is the only answer: — as righteous. In 1647 Samuel Richardson declared the same sweet revelation of the gospel…

“Some place justification to be only in the conscience. But we place it only in Christ where it is, and to whom it belongs. Justification consists in taking away of sin. None but Christ can do that. Justification and acceptation are one. For without justification there is no acceptation. And seeing we are accepted in Christ, we are justified in him. If our justification be a spiritual blessing, (as it is) then it is in Christ where all spiritual blessings are, "Blessed be God, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in Christ," Eph. 1:3. Where our redemption and righteousness are, there is our justification. Righteousness and justification are one. This we have not in our selves but in Christ, "who is made unto us of God, wisdom and righteousness," 1 Cor. 1:30. "In whom we have redemption," Col. 1:14. Our justification is a part of our completeness. Therefore, where we are complete there we are justified. But we are not complete in our selves, but in Him, Col. 2:10.”

Blessed, sweet revelation of grace. — Our Lord Jesus Christ is “THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS” eternally! — “Accepted in the Beloved!” What a sweet, soul-cheering declaration of grace. Though I am in and of myself nothing but sin, I am accepted in Christ. — Accepted in Christ before the world was made! — Accepted in Christ, though fallen in Adam! — Accepted in Christ before ever I heard his voice! — Accepted in Christ when he called me by his grace! — Accepted in Christ though often in darkness because of my own sin and unbelief! — Accepted in Christ immutably and forever!

I’m accepted! I’m accepted! I’m accepted in God’s Son!

Justified, pardoned, accepted — Holy as the Holy One!

Blest of God with every blessing, long before the world began!

Loved of God and one with Jesus, who can charge my soul with sin?

Heir of God, joint-heir with Jesus, heaven’s gates I’ll enter in!

Face to face, I’ll see my Savior, He Who put away my sin!

Lamb of God, eternal Savior, I will ever praise Your name!

Worthy, worthy, worthy ever is the Lamb for sinners slain!

See Him yonder, high exalted, King and Priest upon His throne!

Reign, almighty King, forever! Everywhere, Your will be done.

When is finished all the purpose of our God, the Three-in-One,

All Your saints will bow before You, casting at Your feet their crowns.

http://www.donfortner.com/bulletin_articles/49_ephesians/eph%2001v03-06%20Eternal%20Justification%20and%20Acceptation%20in%20Christ.htm

 

[TomL]

Christ our Surety from Everlasting, so Justified the same !

Christ , if He died for us was Our Surety Heb 7:22

22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

Christ shedding His Blood was out of a Suretyship responsibility to a better covenant or testament Matt 26:28

28 For this is my blood of the new/better testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

The many here are them He was made a surety for !

Now the question is, when did Christ become their Surety ? It was before the foundation of the world, thats why we have scriptures like 1 Pet 1:20

20 Who verily was foreordained[to die] before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Rev 13:8

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

He was slain in His Suretyship Purpose from the foundation of the World, meaning though He had not already in time died, yet it had already before time been determined that He would die as a Surety, so Jesus said Lk 22:22

And truly the Son of man goeth, as it was determined: but woe unto that man by whom he is betrayed!

It had been determined by the Eternal Counsels of the Godhead that Christ would come and die a Surety Death for the sins of God's Chosen People, those Chosen in the Surety before the foundation Eph 1:4. 9

Nothing there about eternal justification, or unconditional election

You are simply reading your theology into scripture again.

 

[brightfame52]

Nothing there about eternal justification, or unconditional election

You are simply reading your theology into scripture again.

Nothing there for you

 

[TomL]

Nothing there for you

Or anyone who just reads what the texts state

 

[brightfame52]

Or anyone who just reads what the texts state

If God hasnt opened up a persons understanding to truth,they'll never see it

 

[TomL]

If God hasnt opened up a persons understanding to truth,they'll never see it

It's not God who gives you those unbiblical doctrines

 

[brightfame52]

Christ our Surety from Everlasting, so Justified the same ! 2

As Our Covenant Surety, it was agreed upon from Everlasting in the Eternal Counsel/Purpose of the Godhead Eph 3:11

11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

Notice that this purpose was in the Mediator Surety Christ Jesus ! Christ Jesus is His Mediator designation like here 1 Tim 2:5

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

And also here 2 Tim 1:9

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus The Mediator Surety before the world began,

It was agreed upon from everlasting that when Gods Chosen People would become guilty debtors to His Law by their sin and disobedience, that instead of them having to pay that sin debt, Christ would in their place pay the debt they incurred against God.

This Suretyship agreement went something like along the lines of that which Paul had with Philemon, who had a runaway slave, that Paul had met, which he became a believer through Paul's Ministry of the Gospel, and upon the slave returning to his master, Paul said these words Philemon 1:18-19

18 If he hath wronged thee, or oweth thee ought, put that on mine account;

19 I Paul have written it with mine own hand, I will repay it: albeit I do not say to thee how thou owest unto me even thine own self besides.

You see that ? To put any wrong doing he had done against him, to put it on Pauls account, so Paul could repay it ! Thats the Principle of Suretyship that Christ was made for them He died for !

Christ unto the Father was made Surety for the sins of God's Elect, the Sheep, when they would sin in Adam initially and then in themselves as they are born physically into the world dead in trespasses and sins, even as others.

In the Eternal Purpose in Christ Jesus Eph 3:11 Christ was their Surety before the foundation, their sin in Adam and all their own sins had already been realized beforehand in God's Purpose and Charged to His Account, and so they for all intents and purposes were already in the Purpose of God Justified from them before they ever happened, by Suretyship agreement, which equates to Eternal Justification ! 9