Eternal Justification !

[civic]

People are not believers before the foundation of the world.

neither are they in heaven either, nor justified before they exist.

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[brightfame52]

Another reason for eternal justification of Gods elect, which is connected to His Suretyship, and that is the non imputation of sin.
God purposed not to punish sin in His Elect but in His Son, the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world Rev 13:8. His counsel to punish sin in His Son, who became sin for us, includes also His will to impute sin to Him. Uniformly, the Father’s purpose not to punish sin in His elect includes His will not to impute it to them, and its is their justification from all sin in His sight 2 Cor 5:19

 

[civic]

Another reason for eternal justification of Gods elect, which is connected to His Suretyship, and that is the non imputation of sin.
God purposed not to punish sin in His Elect but in His Son, the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world Rev 13:8. His counsel to punish sin in His Son, who became sin for us, includes also His will to impute sin to Him. Uniformly, the Father’s purpose not to punish sin in His elect includes His will not to impute it to them, and its is their justification from all sin in His sight 2 Cor 5:19

More nonsense no such thing in the bible as eternal justification you made that up.

 

[brightfame52]

More nonsense no such thing in the bible as eternal justification you made that up.

More opposition to the Truth, God has always held Christ responsible for the sins of the elect, so much so, He was in Gods Purpose slain for their sins Rev 13:8

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Now slain for what ?

 

[civic]

More opposition to the Truth, God has always held Christ responsible for the sins of the elect, so much so, He was in Gods Purpose slain for their sins Rev 13:8

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Now slain for what ?

wrong its the names written from the foundation- not the lamb. its always the names written in eternity past in the books.

more false teaching exposed.

 

[brightfame52]

wrong its the names written from the foundation- not the lamb. its always the names written in eternity past in the books.

more false teaching exposed.

God has never imputed, charged the elect with their sins, hence they are Justified from them 2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

 

[brightfame52]

Imputation is satisfactory for the justification of God’s elect. Again in connection with Christs Suretyship undertaking that commenced from everlasting, the sins of His people were charged or imputed to Him. When He came the first time, He came with sin imputed to Him versus when He comes the second time its without sin, meaning without sin imputed to Him Heb 9:28

28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

The first time He appeared sin was imputed to Him because He came to be a sacrifice Heb 10:5-10

5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

So with the sins of Gods elect already imputed to Christ even when He came into the world the first time as Surety, then they, by this imputation of sin to Christ, meant their Justification before God from them. 1

 

[civic]

God has never imputed, charged the elect with their sins, hence they are Justified from them 2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Justification comes by and through faith. There is no justification prior to ones faith in Christ. One becomes in Christ when they believe, not before. EJ is heretical.

 

[brightfame52]

Justification comes by and through faith. There is no justification prior to ones faith in Christ. One becomes in Christ when they believe, not before. EJ is heretical.

Justification is by Grace also. Titus 3:7

7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

And Grace was given to some in Christ Jesus before the world began 2 Tim 1:9

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

 

[civic]

Justification is by Grace also. Titus 3:7

7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

And Grace was given to some in Christ Jesus before the world began 2 Tim 1:9

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

We are in Christ when we believe . Ephesians 1.

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[brightfame52]

We are in Christ when we believe . Ephesians 1.

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False

 

[civic]

False

Amazing how you call the Bible false and deny it’s plain truth.

Ephesians 1:13
And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit

 

[brightfame52]

Amazing how you call the Bible false and deny it’s plain truth.

Ephesians 1:13
And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit

You bearing false witness, has nothing to do with the bible.

 

[civic]

You bearing false witness, has nothing to do with the bible.

Eph says we are in Christ after we believe and are sealed with the Holy Spirit

And you are projecting again. I’m bearing a true witness with Ephesians 1:13

Next

 

[brightfame52]

Eph says we are in Christ after we believe and are sealed with the Holy Spirit

And you are projecting again. I’m bearing a true witness with Ephesians 1:13

Next

You in fact deny the bible And after the elect believe they are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise.

 

[civic]

You in fact deny the bible And after the elect believe they are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise.

They are not justified until after they believe and are placed in Christ. Eph 1:13. You deny it not me. You are projecting again

 

[brightfame52]

Another reason for eternal justification of Gods elect, is because its apparent, Justification took place before the Cross of the OT Believers. Abraham was Justified before God based upon imputed righteousness before Christ came and died in time Rom 4:1-5

What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?

2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness/Justification.

4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

The righteousness in Vs 3 is Christs righteousness 1 Cor 1:30

30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

Worked out by His Obedience and fulfillment of the Law for Abraham Rom 10:4

4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one[to include Abraham] that believeth.

 

[Bronson]

God has never imputed, charged the elect with their sins, hence they are Justified from them 2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

In order for reconciliation to take place we must be a state of estrangement or hostility between God. 2 Corinthians 5:19 tells us the world needed to be reconciled because they were In that state of estrangement. That would include the elect.

God reconciles men and women to Christ by not imputing their trespasses to them. Well, how can this be? It is the work God the Father did by means of Jesus Christ that makes it possible for any man or woman to be freed from the debt of sin, to experience the non-imputation of their trespasses.

 

[brightfame52]

@Bronson

In order for reconciliation to take place we must be a state of estrangement or hostility between God. 2 Corinthians 5:19 tells us the world needed to be reconciled because they were In that state of estrangement. That would include the elect.

Hi, Yes and 2 Cor 5:19 is exclusively the Elect

God reconciles men and women to Christ by not imputing their trespasses to them.

Yes and which is also Justification

Well, how can this be? It is the work God the Father did by means of Jesus Christ that makes it possible for any man or woman to be freed from the debt of sin, to experience the non-imputation of their trespasses.

This is error, nothing about 2 Cor 5:19 is a possibility, its a done deal. This non imputation took place in the Mind and Purpose of God before the world began, that's why its written Christ was the Lamb slain from the foundation Rev 13:8

 

[civic]

@Bronson



Hi, Yes and 2 Cor 5:19 is exclusively the Elect



Yes and which is also Justification



This is error, nothing about 2 Cor 5:19 is a possibility, its a done deal. This non imputation took place in the Mind and Purpose of God before the world began, that's why its written Christ was the Lamb slain from the foundation Rev 13:8

NASB

All who live on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written since the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slaughtered.

ASV
American Standard Version
And all that dwell on the earth shall worship him, every one whose name hath not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb that hath been slain.

NET Bible
and all those who live on the earth will worship the beast, everyone whose name has not been written since the foundation of the world in the book of life belonging to the Lamb who was killed.

New Revised Standard Version
and all the inhabitants of the earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb that was slaughtered.


Someone’s trapped by doctrine.

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