Deliverance from Calvinism

[brightfame52]

If Calvinism were true God would be the author of sin and evil and of the eternal suffering of the wicked. Their wickedness would be his doing. Claiming that God’s intent, purpose, in making them wicked, is good, the full manifestation of his glory in punishing them, does nothing to help avoid depicting God as monstrous.

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It's True and you should be careful about what you say about God

 

[Hosanna]

It's True and you should be careful about what you say about God

It's who Calvinist make God out to be. So I'm not the one who needs to be careful.

 

[Neil Spargo]

Yes they are when talking about who Christ died for. All men means not limited to Jews. Here's a passage where all refers to the elect only Rom 8:32-34

32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Nope All means all.

Romans 8:33-34 is about the unwavering assurance that no accusations or condemnation from others can separate believers from the love of Christ, as Christ intercedes on their behalf before God.

 

[brightfame52]

It's who Calvinist make God out to be. So I'm not the one who needs to be careful.

Okay

 

[brightfame52]

Nope All means all.

All what?

 

[GallagherM]

Hello to the group,

You will never change brightfame52's mind. He has been doing this same thing for years. If you want to keep yourself entertained though, by all means. I dont question his salvation. You will question his love for the tulip though, lol. As long as we aren't going over it at the dinner table, and just enjoy the food it would be nice to have a meal with him assuredly.

Sorry brightfame52, you a just a great mystery to me of why you been doing this same sthick for years, but I know God has no favorites, and he loves you just as much as he loves me, well... of course unless I am just totally depraved and need him to intervine with me which he did do that finally at the age of 26, but I don't see myself as some elect person.

The reason why, is just by simply reading the narratives, but I digress. May we all live by the spirit of the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ, and live for him, not for popularity online. Or whatever one may try to obtain, because I already made up my own mind.

Thank you for your time,
Matthew

 

[Neil Spargo]

All what?

The phrase "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me" is found in John 12:32 of the Bible. It refers to Jesus speaking about His crucifixion, indicating that His death would attract all people to Him, symbolizing the salvation He offers. This statement encompasses not only His crucifixion but also His resurrection and ascension, emphasizing the significance of His sacrifice for humanity.

 

[Neil Spargo]

Hello to the group,

You will never change brightfame52's mind. He has been doing this same thing for years. If you want to keep yourself entertained though, by all means. I dont question his salvation. You will question his love for the tulip though, lol. As long as we aren't going over it at the dinner table, and just enjoy the food it would be nice to have a meal with him assuredly.

Sorry brightfame52, you a just a great mystery to me of why you been doing this same sthick for years, but I know God has no favorites, and he loves you just as much as he loves me, well... of course unless I am just totally depraved and need him to intervine with me which he did do that finally at the age of 26, but I don't see myself as some elect person.

The reason why, is just by simply reading the narratives, but I digress. May we all live by the spirit of the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ, and live for him, not for popularity online. Or whatever one may try to obtain, because I already made up my own mind.

Thank you for your time,
Matthew

I think your right

 

[Hosanna]

Yes, it's like talking to a brick wall.

 

[GallagherM]

Hello Neil,

Yes. I don't want people to waste their time! You can spend it on other things.

All the best,
Matthew

 

[Neil Spargo]

Hello Neil,

Yes. I don't want people to waste their time! You can spend it on other things.

All the best,
Matthew

True that. Thanks

 

[brightfame52]

The phrase "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me" is found in John 12:32 of the Bible. It refers to Jesus speaking about His crucifixion, indicating that His death would attract all people to Him, symbolizing the salvation He offers. This statement encompasses not only His crucifixion but also His resurrection and ascension, emphasizing the significance of His sacrifice for humanity.

That's all the elect friend. I'm sure you are familiar with Tulip, Limited and effectual atonement.