Christendom's Trinity: Where Did It Come From?

[Walt]

If the Bible uses the words first-born of all creation, and someone says oh that's not what it means, and explains: [ here let me explain what this verse means ].

The Bible's explanation is valid and the explanation that is not in the Bible would be considered invalid, wouldn't you agree?

 

[mikesw]

Really, Capbook? Then I suggest that you ask the people at Strong to explain to you how to talk your way around the word creation as in "firstborn of all creation," as used at Colossians 1:15 with reference to Jesus. Also ask the people at Strong to help you explain how the word "creation" means the exact opposite, as you claim, "not created."

You have no intention of being corrected by scripture. So, guess what? While you're chatting with the folks over at Strongs, keep in mind that you are now on my permanent Ignore List.

oops. it sounds like the unitarian pocket dictionary controls the meaning and discussion. It is the principle of alter2ego and scripture together are the authority despite what others argue more solidly against the uni view.
Write notes:

No-one has ever seen God, wrote John in his Prologue (1:18), but God the only Son has made him known. Humanity was made as the climax of the first creation (Gen. 1:26–27): the true humanity of Jesus is the climax of the history of creation, and at the same time the starting-point of the new creation. From all eternity Jesus had, in his very nature, been the ‘image of God’, reflecting perfectly the character and life of the Father. It was thus appropriate for him to be the ‘image of God’ as man
N. T. Wright, Colossians and Philemon TNTC, 74.

The next verse also shows Christ's eternal existence. That cannot be excluded either.

 

[Alter2Ego]

synergy:

I find it curious that no Trinitarian has been able to quote a single verse of scripture--without ignoring context--that confirms the nonsense you stated above (enlarged and bolded in blue). By the way, context refers to surrounding words, verses, and chapters.

Your response does nothing to address what I stated. So, instead of engaging my comments, you simply diverted away from it, thereby proving the very point I made about the non-Trinitarian habit of refusing to address the comprehensive biblical evidence of Divine Multi-Person Manifestations (Theophanies) unless it is reduced to a single proof-text containing the word “Trinity.”

Of course it does, synergy, and you know it. That's why you are stalling for time now that I've asked you to start posting your first three set of supposed Trinity verses.

Again, you did nothing to address what I stated. So, instead of engaging my comments, you simply diverted away from it, thereby proving the very point I made about the non-Trinitarian habit of refusing to address the comprehensive biblical evidence of Divine Multi-Person Manifestations (Theophanies) unless it is reduced to a single proof-text containing the word “Trinity.”

synergy:

You are giving me wash, rinse and repeat. Bolding your comments, like you did above, shows the extent of your love affair with Christendom's non-existent 3-prong god.

 

[mikesw]

synergy:

You are giving me wash, rinse and repeat. Bolding your comments, like you did above, shows the extent of your love affair with Christendom's non-existent 3-prong god.






You expect me to find verses that do not exist in the Judeo-Christian Bible? Either you post your first three so-called Trinity scriptures, or this conversation is over.

If you want to argue trinity to ad nauseam, click on somebody else's comments since they have the patience. I do not. I send people to my Ignore List when I get tired of their shenanigans.

Oh no. Alter2Ego's eyes are getting bad and now requiring large print. All that was needed to reject the unitarian doctrine were the passages that both show Jesus' as deity and his preexistence. Unitarians surely defeated. After accepting those passages, the unitarian can be left in the earliest stages of Christianity when the deity of Christ had not be studied in deeper detail.

 

[Alter2Ego]

Quit stalling and quote your first three set of verses so that I can direct you to scriptural context (surrounding words, verses, and chapters).

Don't tell me you can't find the verses that speak about the Incarnation, one of many Theophonies of God. Hop to it.

synergy:

You expect me to find verses that do not exist in the Judeo-Christian Bible? Either you post your first three so-called Trinity scriptures, or this conversation is over.

If you want to argue trinity to ad nauseam, click on somebody else's comments since they have the patience. I do not. I send people to my Ignore List when I get tired of their shenanigans.

 

[Alter2Ego]

@Alter2Ego

Colossians 1:15 does not say Jesus was created. It says he is the firstborn of all creation. The Greek word prototokos refers to rank and inheritance, not origin. Scripture uses “firstborn” this way repeatedly (Ps 89:27; Exod 4:22).

And Paul explains what he means in the very next verses: “By him all things were created… He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.” If Christ were a created being, he would be part of “all things,” which Paul explicitly places under him.

“Firstborn” means preeminent heir, not first thing created.

@Alter2Ego

Tell me and all of us

“Where does Scripture explicitly say Jesus was created?”

Not implied, or Not interpreted, but Explicitly.
In 42 translations of the Holy Scriptures I find no single verse that says.....
“Jesus was created” or “The Son was made” or “God created the Word”

Now lets consider this.......... FACT: John 1 uses two different verbs:

ēn = was (continuous existence)

egeneto = came into being

Now watch how carefully John applies them.....

“In the beginning was the Word”
“All things came into being through him” (John 1:1–3)

If the Word was created, John would have said so. He didn’t.
And another question.....

Is Jesus included in ''all things''? Before you answer read...................

Colossians 1:16: “By him all things were created”

John 1:3: “Apart from him not even one thing came into being that has come into being”

If Jesus was created.....He must be included in “all things” but Scripture explicitly excludes him from that category

This is just plain logic.

Also,,, there is a verse that is not in the bible to make your belief a reality....

To make “Jesus was created” work, you assume something the Bible never says

“Jesus was created before everything else”

That phrase is nowhere in Scripture but is needed to make the theory work.

You simply have theology filling a gap the text doesn’t give.

I should stop now... but alas.... I cannot.

Fact...The name “Jesus” begins at the incarnation. Fact...The Word/Son existed before that

So here is the real wuestion to be answered...........Was the pre-incarnate Word created, or simply already existing? And keep in mind the Bible consistently uses existence language, not creation language.

What all this means is Scripture never says Jesus was created. What it does say is that all things that came into being came into being through him (John 1:3) and that by him all things were created (Col 1:16). If Jesus were created, he would be part of “all things,” which Scripture explicitly places under him.

The name “Jesus” begins at the incarnation; the Word already was.

FreeInChrist:

I already went through this with you at Post 167. Below is the weblink.

Post in thread 'Christendom's Trinity: Where Did It Come From?'

Dec 23, 2025

atpollard:

John 1:1 has three independent clauses. Look at Clause #1. It says: "In the beginning was the Word...."

According to Christendom's Trinity, Jesus Christ aka "the Word" does not have a beginning.


Christendom's Trinity is defined as follows:
"There is but one living and true God, everlasting, without body, parts, or passions; of infinite power, wisdom, and goodness; the maker and preserver of all things both visible and indivisible. And in unity of this Godhead there be three persons, of ONE...

• Alter2Ego

Go back and read Post 167 as many times as necessary, and perhaps, by some miracle, it will sink in that the word "beginning" can never apply to Almighty God Jehovah, because scripture says he does not have a beginning.


"Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the whole world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God." (Psalm 90:2 -- New International Version)

Psalm 90 NIV

Definition of everlasting:
1: lasting or enduring through all time : eternal

Definition of EVERLASTING

lasting or enduring through all time : eternal; continuing for a long time or indefinitely; having or being flowers or foliage that retain form or color for a long time when dried… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

"Before the mountains were born Or before You had given birth to the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are [the eternal] God." (Psalm 90:2 -- Amplified Bible)

Psalm 90 Amplified Bible

"Before the mountains were born, before You gave birth to the earth and the world, from eternity to eternity, You are God." (Psalm 90:2 -- Holman Christian Bible)

Psalm 90 HCSB

Definition of eternal:
without beginning or end; lasting forever; always existing (temporal ).

eternal life.

ETERNAL Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com

ETERNAL definition: without beginning or end; lasting forever; always existing (temporal ). See examples of eternal used in a sentence.

www.dictionary.com

 

[mikesw]

synergy:

You expect me to find verses that do not exist in the Judeo-Christian Bible? Either you post your first three so-called Trinity scriptures, or this conversation is over.

If you want to argue trinity to ad nauseam, click on somebody else's comments since they have the patience. I do not. I send people to my Ignore List when I get tired of their shenanigans.

Oh no. Alter2Ego's eyes are getting bad and now requiring large print. All that was needed to reject the unitarian doctrine were the passages that both show Jesus' as deity and his preexistence. Unitarians surely defeated. After accepting those passages, the unitarian can be left in the earliest stages of Christianity when the deity of Christ had not be studied in deeper detail.

 

[mikesw]

FreeInChrist:

I already went through this with you at Post 167. Below is the weblink.

Post in thread 'Christendom's Trinity: Where Did It Come From?'

Dec 23, 2025

atpollard:

John 1:1 has three independent clauses. Look at Clause #1. It says: "In the beginning was the Word...."

According to Christendom's Trinity, Jesus Christ aka "the Word" does not have a beginning.


Christendom's Trinity is defined as follows:
"There is but one living and true God, everlasting, without body, parts, or passions; of infinite power, wisdom, and goodness; the maker and preserver of all things both visible and indivisible. And in unity of this Godhead there be three persons, of ONE...

• Alter2Ego

Go back and read Post 167 as many times as necessary, and perhaps, by some miracle, it will sink in that the word "beginning" can never apply to Almighty God Jehovah, because scripture says he does not have a beginning.


"Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the whole world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God." (Psalm 90:2 -- New International Version)

alter2ego does not look at things I post. It can be noted that the Word, as the metaleptic identity of the Word to Philo and the Greek Philosopher use of the term, applies to the pre-existent state of Jesus. So Jesus has preexistence in that sense.

The body and incarnation forever continues with Jesus and that can reflect a firstborn sense. The other meaning is Jesus' preeminence over creation, it having be created by the One who became incarnate as Jesus -- Col 1:16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.

At least Christians get these concepts deeper into their awareness by the help involved by correcting the unitarian's errant doctrines. It is also convenient not having to repeat ideas back to alter2ego that were overlooked with critical verses like Col 1:16.

 

[Peterlag]

Really, Capbook? Then I suggest that you ask the people at Strong to explain to you how to talk your way around the word creation as in "firstborn of all creation," as used at Colossians 1:15 with reference to Jesus. Also ask the people at Strong to help you explain how the word "creation" means the exact opposite, as you claim, "not created."

You have no intention of being corrected by scripture. So, guess what? While you're chatting with the folks over at Strongs, keep in mind that you are now on my permanent Ignore List.

The trinity folks make it up as they go along. Don't let them get to you until they start being rude to you personally.

 

[mikesw]

The trinity folks make it up as they go along. Don't let them get to you until they start being rude to you personally.

I do not know Trinitarians as making scripture up. Only the unitarians try to change the meaning to reduce who Christ is.

 

[Alter2Ego]

Really, Capbook? Then I suggest that you ask the people at Strong to explain to you how to talk your way around the word creation as in "firstborn of all creation," as used at Colossians 1:15 with reference to Jesus. Also ask the people at Strong to help you explain how the word "creation" means the exact opposite, as you claim, "not created."

You have no intention of being corrected by scripture. So, guess what? While you're chatting with the folks over at Strongs, keep in mind that you are now on my permanent Ignore List.

The trinity folks make it up as they go along. Don't let them get to you until they start being rude to you personally.

Of course they make it up as they go along, Peterlag. It's the only way they can maintain their non-existent 3-in-1 god. That's why I sent Capbook and mikesw to my Ignore List after they made it abundantly clear that they didn't care what the Bible says.

Anyone that get's rude to me will likewise be banished to my Ignore List where I won't be able to read anything they post, including any of their continuing schoolyard insults. That's my way of handling hard-headed people, per Jesus' instructions.

Matthew 10:14​

"Wherever anyone does not receive you or listen to your words, on going out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet."

 

[mikesw]

Of course they make it up as they go along, Peterlag. It's the only way they can maintain their non-existent 3-in-1 god. That's why I sent Capbook and mikesw to my Ignore List after they made it abundantly clear that they didn't care what the Bible says.

Anyone that get's rude to me will likewise be banished to my Ignore List where I won't be able to read anything they post, including any of their continuing schoolyard insults. That's my way of handling hard-headed people, per Jesus' instructions.

Matthew 10:14​

"Wherever anyone does not receive you or listen to your words, on going out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet."

soon Alter2ego will have no one to push propaganda onto. Now Matt 10:14 has alter2ego pretending to be one who was a disciple at the time of Christ. Where is the understanding of scripture there?

The obvious problem here is that alter2ego, peterlag, and others are pushing novel, new, gnostic, hyperliteralist interpretations of scripture rather than having a true debate on the scriptures themselves. Their doctrines are made by skipping half of the verses -- the ones that show the preexistence of the One who became incarnate as Jesus. Any doctrine can be formed when erasing so much of the bible.

There never is change among their doctrines and no deep recognition of trinitarian concepts that they complain about.

 

[Capbook]

Do you have a teaching of any of this from the Bible? A teaching... a whole paragraph or chapter the describes what you have written above? A teaching on the doctrine of the trinity?

Yes, as a Christian, a follower of Christ, I was baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
The three are one in the nature of God. (Rom 1:20, Acts 17:29, Col 2:9)

 

[Capbook]

Really, Capbook? Then I suggest that you ask the people at Strong to explain to you how to talk your way around the word creation as in "firstborn of all creation," as used at Colossians 1:15 with reference to Jesus. Also ask the people at Strong to help you explain how the word "creation" means the exact opposite, as you claim, "not created."

Good, as now you learn to consult Strong Concordance, I believe some improvement on your side.
But I quote a newer Lexicon Alter2Ego, a Lexicon that based on Semantic Domain, the Louw and Nida.
And they defined "firstbord" as existing first and not created first.

You have no intention of being corrected by scripture. So, guess what? While you're chatting with the folks over at Strongs, keep in mind that you are now on my permanent Ignore List.

That's the cheap technique from those who cannot render a valid Scriptural counter argument.
Jesus as the "only begotten God," as God, He cannot be a creation Alter2Ego.

Joh 1:18 No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.

 

[FreeInChrist]

Boy lucky you said you are a conservative because I was just ready to start myself on fire and throw myself out in front of a moving Mack Truck rather than talk to you again until you said you were normal in the field of government.

Ill let you alone, seeing that I bother you so much.

Vaya con Dios

 

[atpollard]

Then I suggest that you ask the people at Strong to explain to you how to talk your way around the word creation as in "firstborn of all creation," as used at Colossians 1:15 with reference to Jesus. Also ask the people at Strong to help you explain how the word "creation" means the exact opposite, as you claim, "not created."

Colossians 1:15-20
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell, and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross.

from David Guzik:

a. He is: Paul started out thanking the Father for His plan of redemption (Colossians 1:12). He couldn’t do that without also thinking of the Son, who is the great Redeemer.​

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i. Most scholars think that Colossians 1:15-20 came from a poem or a hymn in the early Church that described what Christians believed about Jesus. This is entirely possible, but can’t be proven one way or another.​

b. He is the image of the invisible God: The word translated image (the ancient Greek word eikon) expressed two ideas.​

• Likeness, as in the image on a coin or the reflection in a mirror.
• Manifestation, with the sense that God is fully revealed in Jesus.

i. If Paul meant that Jesus was merely similar to the Father, he would have used the ancient Greek word homoioma, which speaks merely of similar appearance. The stronger word used here proves that Paul knew that Jesus is God just as God the Father is God. It means that “Jesus is the very stamp of God the Father.” (Robertson)​

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ii. “God is invisible, which does not merely mean that He cannot be seen by our bodily eye, but that He is unknowable. In the exalted Christ the unknowable God becomes known.” (Peake)​

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iii. According to Barclay, the ancient Jewish philosopher Philo equated the eikon of God with the Logos. Paul used this important and meaningful word with great purpose.​

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c. The firstborn over all creation: Firstborn (the ancient Greek word prototokos) can describe either priority in time or supremacy in rank. As Paul used it here, he probably had both ideas in mind, with Jesus being before all created things and Jesus being of a supremely different order than all created things.​

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i. Firstborn is also used of Jesus in Colossians 1:18, Romans 8:29, Hebrews 1:6, and Revelation 1:5.​

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ii. In no way does the title firstborn indicate that Jesus is less than God. In fact, the ancient Rabbis called Yawhew Himself “Firstborn of the World” (Rabbi Bechai, cited in Lightfoot). Ancient rabbis used firstborn as a Messianic title: “God said, As I made Jacob a first-born (Exodus 4:22), so also will I make king Messiah a first-born (Psalm 89:27).” (R. Nathan in Shemoth Rabba, cited in Lightfoot)​

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iii. “The use of this word does not show what Arius argued: that Paul regarded Christ as a creature like ‘all creation’… It is rather the comparative (superlative) force of protos that is used.” (Robertson)​

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iv. Bishop Lightfoot, a noted Greek scholar, on the use of both eikon (image) and prototokos (firstborn): “As the Person of Christ was the Divine response alike to the philosophical questionings of the Alexandrian Jew and to the patriotic hopes of the Palestinian, these two currents of thought meet in the term prototokos as applied to our Lord, who is both the true Logos and the true Messiah.” (Lightfoot)​

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v. “Prototokos in its primary sense expresses temporal priority, and then, on account of the privileges of the firstborn, it gains the further sense of dominion… Whether the word retains anything of its original meaning here is doubtful.” (Peake)​

 

[FreeInChrist]

FreeInChrist:

I already went through this with you at Post 167. Below is the weblink.

Post in thread 'Christendom's Trinity: Where Did It Come From?'

Dec 23, 2025

atpollard:

John 1:1 has three independent clauses. Look at Clause #1. It says: "In the beginning was the Word...."

According to Christendom's Trinity, Jesus Christ aka "the Word" does not have a beginning.


Christendom's Trinity is defined as follows:
"There is but one living and true God, everlasting, without body, parts, or passions; of infinite power, wisdom, and goodness; the maker and preserver of all things both visible and indivisible. And in unity of this Godhead there be three persons, of ONE...

• Alter2Ego

Go back and read Post 167 as many times as necessary, and perhaps, by some miracle, it will sink in that the word "beginning" can never apply to Almighty God Jehovah, because scripture says he does not have a beginning.

I never said He did. To clarify

Jehovah God has no beginning, but creation does. That’s the “beginning” John 1:1 talks about.

Rephrasing for clarity,

Jehovah God has no beginning ~only creation does, and John 1:1 starts there, not with Him.

Third times the charm?

Jehovah God has no beginning…but this ball of mud we live on did, and that’s the beginning John 1:1 talks about, not Him.

Meaning....

Jehovah God has no beginning .....but this ball of mud we live on did.....and that’s the beginning John 1:1 talks about, not Him.

"Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the whole world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God." (Psalm 90:2 -- New International Version)

Psalm 90 NIV

Definition of everlasting:
1: lasting or enduring through all time : eternal

Definition of EVERLASTING

lasting or enduring through all time : eternal; continuing for a long time or indefinitely; having or being flowers or foliage that retain form or color for a long time when dried… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

"Before the mountains were born Or before You had given birth to the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are [the eternal] God." (Psalm 90:2 -- Amplified Bible)

Psalm 90 Amplified Bible

"Before the mountains were born, before You gave birth to the earth and the world, from eternity to eternity, You are God." (Psalm 90:2 -- Holman Christian Bible)

Psalm 90 HCSB

Definition of eternal:
without beginning or end; lasting forever; always existing (temporal ).

eternal life.

ETERNAL Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com

ETERNAL definition: without beginning or end; lasting forever; always existing (temporal ). See examples of eternal used in a sentence.

www.dictionary.com

FreeInChrist:

I already went through this with you at Post 167. Below is the weblink.

Post in thread 'Christendom's Trinity: Where Did It Come From?'

Dec 23, 2025

atpollard:

John 1:1 has three independent clauses. Look at Clause #1. It says: "In the beginning was the Word...."

According to Christendom's Trinity, Jesus Christ aka "the Word" does not have a beginning.


Christendom's Trinity is defined as follows:
"There is but one living and true God, everlasting, without body, parts, or passions; of infinite power, wisdom, and goodness; the maker and preserver of all things both visible and indivisible. And in unity of this Godhead there be three persons, of ONE...

• Alter2Ego

Go back and read Post 167 as many times as necessary, and perhaps, by some miracle, it will sink in that the word "beginning" can never apply to Almighty God Jehovah, because scripture says he does not have a beginning.


"Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the whole world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God." (Psalm 90:2 -- New International Version)

Psalm 90 NIV

Definition of everlasting:
1: lasting or enduring through all time : eternal

Definition of EVERLASTING

lasting or enduring through all time : eternal; continuing for a long time or indefinitely; having or being flowers or foliage that retain form or color for a long time when dried… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

"Before the mountains were born Or before You had given birth to the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are [the eternal] God." (Psalm 90:2 -- Amplified Bible)

Psalm 90 Amplified Bible

"Before the mountains were born, before You gave birth to the earth and the world, from eternity to eternity, You are God." (Psalm 90:2 -- Holman Christian Bible)

Psalm 90 HCSB

Definition of eternal:
without beginning or end; lasting forever; always existing (temporal ).

eternal life.

ETERNAL Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com

ETERNAL definition: without beginning or end; lasting forever; always existing (temporal ). See examples of eternal used in a sentence.

www.dictionary.com

No one ever said he YHWH ever had a beginning. No one ever siad the WORD had a beginning.

The verse tells us

 

[Peterlag]

God set up boundaries of math, logic, and reason that He also functions in when dealing with us. Anything else would be confession and chaos. Nothing can be 100% of two different things. Jesus cannot be 100% God and 100% man, and that is not a “mystery” but it's a contradiction and a talk of nonsense.

 

[mikesw]

God set up boundaries of math, logic, and reason that He also functions in when dealing with us. Anything else would be confession and chaos. Nothing can be 100% of two different things. Jesus cannot be 100% God and 100% man, and that is not a “mystery” but it's a contradiction and a talk of nonsense.

I would not call the things that God does as nonsense. The spirit of man is dead without Christ -- can mean void or missing. The completion of man is when God's Spirit is in him. There was no less humanity than before nor after man's spirit is alive with God's presence.

 

[Alter2Ego]

FreeInChrist:

I already went through this with you at Post 167. Below is the weblink.

Post in thread 'Christendom's Trinity: Where Did It Come From?'

Dec 23, 2025

atpollard:

John 1:1 has three independent clauses. Look at Clause #1. It says: "In the beginning was the Word...."

According to Christendom's Trinity, Jesus Christ aka "the Word" does not have a beginning.


Christendom's Trinity is defined as follows:
"There is but one living and true God, everlasting, without body, parts, or passions; of infinite power, wisdom, and goodness; the maker and preserver of all things both visible and indivisible. And in unity of this Godhead there be three persons, of ONE...

• Alter2Ego

Go back and read Post 167 as many times as necessary, and perhaps, by some miracle, it will sink in that the word "beginning" can never apply to Almighty God Jehovah, because scripture says he does not have a beginning.


"Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the whole world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God." (Psalm 90:2 -- New International Version)

Psalm 90 NIV

Definition of everlasting:
1: lasting or enduring through all time : eternal

Definition of EVERLASTING

lasting or enduring through all time : eternal; continuing for a long time or indefinitely; having or being flowers or foliage that retain form or color for a long time when dried… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

"Before the mountains were born Or before You had given birth to the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are [the eternal] God." (Psalm 90:2 -- Amplified Bible)

Psalm 90 Amplified Bible

"Before the mountains were born, before You gave birth to the earth and the world, from eternity to eternity, You are God." (Psalm 90:2 -- Holman Christian Bible)

Psalm 90 HCSB

Definition of eternal:
without beginning or end; lasting forever; always existing (temporal ).

eternal life.

ETERNAL Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com

ETERNAL definition: without beginning or end; lasting forever; always existing (temporal ). See examples of eternal used in a sentence.

www.dictionary.com

I never said He did. To clarify

Jehovah God has no beginning, but creation does. That’s the “beginning” John 1:1 talks about.

FreeInChrist:

Since you realize Jehovah has no beginning based upon Psalm 90:2, then common sense should tell you that Jesus--who had a beginning--could not possibly be in a trinity in which Jesus the son and Jehovah the Father are the same god.