Which is a false accusation. LOL
Another former Calvinist Sam Shamoun
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civic
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all synonyms.
do you believe the Trinity ? yes or no
find the word in the bible
thanks for proving my point.
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Your losing it dude.
civic
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the game is over and you don't even know it lol
Yip. I win again.
civic
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nope tulip is a losing battle.
civic
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Fallacy alert
Jesus laid down His own life.
John 10:11
I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.
John 10:18
No one can take my life from me. I sacrifice it voluntarily. For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again. For this is what my Father has commanded.”
next fallacy coming forth from the presby02, get ready for them rofl.............................
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hope this helps !!!
So He allowed Himself to be murdered. So is God the Father and accomplice? He did plan, determine and actually bring it about by His hand.
Rockson
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No you're insisting he implied that for effect to play your silly game.
He quoted in the same post and subsequent ones THIS SCRITPURE
"as scripture shows
James 1:13 Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God,” for God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one. 14 But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire."
So how in the world do you get from that God tempts or moves anyone to SOME evil? You can't so conclusion.....YOU'RE JUST PLAYING A SILLY GAME and being very disengeious.
What did he need to retract? On purpose you're just imagining things. He brought clarity to what he meant in in original statements! That's why he quoted James 1:13! Get it? I'm sure you won't admit that you do. Readers can see it all however on the record.
civic
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Amen
Julie
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“Father, if you are willing, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, not my will, but yours, be done.” And there appeared to him an angel from heaven, strengthening him. Luke 22:42-44
No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father.” John 10:18
It's in the bible, It's called God's Plan of Salvation you can find it from Genesis to Revelation.
That He implied God determines some evil. He said, "God does not determine all evil." Why not say God does not determine evil?
Your off on this one. Shocking and unusual I know.
Ya and? So what are those who crucified Him held accountable for?
Ezra
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Yeah and so.... it seems like you have a little regard for God's plan of salvation. Maybe this will be uplifting for you
The Roman officer and the other soldiers at the crucifixion were terrified by the earthquake and all that had happened. They said, “This man truly was the Son of God!” Matthew 27:54
Maybe they were saved. Especially after the resurrection Jesus was seen by 500 people they could have been one or two of the 500
civic
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Nothing since they had no choice to do otherwise and your god determined their wickedness and sin making them no longer culpable for their actions they were preprogrammed to act out.
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So they were innocent then. They did nothing wrong. Brilliant, simply brilliant.
Pland and determined by God, brought about by His hand. Acts 4:27,28
civic
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Take it up with your bad theology the one responsible is the one who planned the crime. The ones who had no choice to do otherwise and are forced and coerced are not culpable. That’s your horrible beliefs not mine.
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Planned and determined by God, brought about by His hand. Acts 4:27,28
