Dizerner
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The natural man does not understand the things of the Spirit, indeed they are foolishness unto him.
An Article on free will
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The natural man does not understand the things of the Spirit, indeed they are foolishness unto him.
Johann
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Dizerner
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both... and bibleworks as well, sad they went out of business
Johann
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You wouldn't believe this, but I only use e Sword and Scripture4All. My computer is full of years of worksheets when I was in the Ark in Durban-but-
Too many power outs here in South Africa and can only drool with such a work station brother.
Keep up the good work.
Johann.
Dizerner
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No shame in that. I still often turn to free resources there is a lot out there now.
Johann
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Since the passing of my beloved wife, not a day goes by without my devoting six to eight hours in the study of the Scriptures. Given my limited access to Hebrew resources, I frequently make use of the STEP Bible.
If you happen to know of any reliable and freely accessible sources for Hebrew studies, I would be truly grateful if you could share them with me.
God knows, I need all the help I can get.
J.
Johann
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@Jim maybe this will help. And do look up "sin imputed"-not the same Greek word for the imputation of God in Christ to us.
AND SO DEATH PASSED UPON ALL MEN FOR THAT ALL HAVE SINNED
There is, naturally, the constant effort on the part of fallen man to explain his condition so that the responsibility for it will not rest upon him. Even those who theoretically accept the Bible account of the fall, frequently protest: Why am I to blame? I cannot help it. I was born with a sinful nature.
Such have failed to observe what Romans 5:12 clearly states, that
“death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.”
But some will object that we have just finished proving that death passed upon all because of the sin of ONE man. Yes, but we were all in that one man when he sinned. We all sinned in Adam. It is too soon forgotten by some that all of us were once in Adam, were part of him, have come from him, and that the sins we are now tempted to commit by our own fallen natures are but the natural fruit of that original sin committed by us all in Adam when he was yet a free moral agent.
The fact that sin and death entered the world through Adam does not excuse us; it but increases and clinches our condemnation for all Adam’s posterity were in Adam when he sinned—“and so death passed upon all men, for that ALL HAVE SINNED.”
THE LAST ADAM, A LIFE-GIVING SPIRIT
Thank God for “the second man…the Lord from heaven,” “the last Adam” who, in contrast to the first Adam, is a life-giving Spirit (I Cor. 15:45,47).
“For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive” (I Cor. 15:22).
But here we must be careful, for just as there are those who teach that the fall came about through Adam’s sin without any responsibility on our part, there are also those who teach that all will be saved by Christ’s death whether or not they trust Him for salvation in this life. This too is false for as we were constituted sinners in Adam, so we can be made righteous only in Christ.
I Corinthians 15:22, quoted above, is a stronghold of the Universalists. In utter disregard of the context they emphasize the words: “…as…all die, even so… shall all be made alive,” whereas the true emphasis lies on the words, “…as in Adam…even so in Christ…,” the “all” in each case referring to those respectively “in Adam” and “in Christ.”
Paul does not speak of the resurrection of all men in this chapter, but of that more glorious resurrection which only the saved shall experience.
He speaks of it as the believer’s hope (I Cor. 15:13-19). Immediately after saying “even so in Christ shall all be made alive,” he goes on to say: “But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at His coming” (Verse 23). The unsaved clearly are not contemplated here. He says of the believer’s body: “it is raised in incorruption…it is raised in glory…it is raised in power…we shall…bear the image of the heavenly” (Vers. 42,43,49). All this could not be said about the unsaved, nor could it be said of them that they are made alive in Christ. It is only the believer who is made alive in Christ:
“For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with Him” (I Thes. 4:14; Heb. 13:20).
Yes, “As in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all [i.e., those in Him] be made alive.” They will not be raised merely to be condemned to the second death. They will be made alive in the fullest sense of the word.
To fallen man, then, God freely offers eternal life and perfect righteousness in Christ,
“Even the righteousness of God…unto all and upon all them that believe” (Rom. 3:22).
Adam and the Fall
(This is the first of a series of articles that first appeared in 1950 in Truth magazine, published by Milwaukee Bible Institute/Worldwide Grace Testimony, now the Grace Gospel Fellowship. These articles have never before appeared in the Searchlight.) "...by one man sin entered into the world, and
bereanbiblesociety.org
Very good site.
Johann.
Dizerner
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Not sure how in depth or what area you want. But Daily Dose of Hebrew readings are incredibly high quality in depth analysis.
Don't undersell the AI bots around either, they can rehearse a lot of great information they gather from the internet.
Other than that, you can find grammars, translations and word studies here and there online.
I am sorry to hear about your wife, I pray God continues to emotionally support you.
Dizerner
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We all are accountable unto God for how we handle the word of God, I hope I'll have time to jump in here in the next two days or so, I'm very busy at the moment. Sorry for lack of contributing on this all important subject. I'm trying to read all that has been posted thus far, so I'll not be behind very much.
I'll not be defending @Johann, yet I agree with much he has said thus far written and posted on this subject.
JIm, now you know what it means, you just do not want to accept the truth of it. Itis not that deep, and you are a very intelligent person, I know by experience going back and forth with you, for many years
Jim, the most important truth that comes from this is that all of the elect were IN CHRIST, before the foundation of the world, before they had done any good, or evil; and Adam was a figure of Christ ~ (Romans 5:14) each representing those that were IN THEM. So, to be brief, please answer this one question:
In what sense was Adam a figure of Christ, please explain using scriptures?
civic
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Yes I would assume you would agree with the reformed position
@civic
Later I'll go back and address some of your posts, that I just read.
I'm not of the Reformed community of believers, yet, on this subject we would be close since both believe the scriptures concerning the fall of Adam and we inheriting Adam's fallen nature ~ with no doubt some variations...We both believe in the doctrine of imputation of Adam's sin and righteousness by Christ for his elect.
Later I'll go back and address some of your posts, that I just read.
Johann
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Thank you, dear brother. I currently use ChatGPT Pro, which has served me well, particularly because I’ve spent years studying the grammar and morphology of both Greek and Hebrew, beginning with my first Strong’s Concordance. This background helps me detect quickly when a rendering is off or misapplied.
That said, one potential limitation is that the AI's output can reflect the theological leanings of the user’s prompt-whether Calvinistic or Arminian-which means it can be subtly shaped by presuppositions. Thankfully, my primary focus is not on theological systems but on grammar, syntax, and textual flow, and in that regard, I’ve had no serious concerns.
As for commentary, I do not rely heavily on them, but I hold in high regard the work of Bob Utley, whose teachings, though not traditional commentaries, are rich in exegetical integrity. Through his Spirit-led diligence, I have found renewed passion and reverence in approaching the Scriptures.
This journey reminds me that it is not simply about accumulating knowledge (gnōsis), but about deep, lived understanding-ἐπίγνωσις (epignōsis)-which comes from applying the Word daily in the power of the Spirit.
“Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up.” (1 Corinthians 8:1)
“Be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.” (James 1:22)
Moreover, unless my so-called “free will” is entirely yielded to the βουλή (boulē) and θέλημα (thelēma) of Christ, I find myself walking in the flesh.
“Walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.” (Galatians 5:16)
“So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh.” (Romans 8:12)
And indeed, Scripture warns that if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him (Romans 8:9), a solemn reminder that spiritual life and identity are bound up in the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit.
As for the notion of “free will,” we do well to consider our Lord’s own words:
“I have come down from heaven not to do My will but to do the will of Him who sent Me.” (John 6:38)
This radically reshapes the question-if Christ, the sinless Son, yielded His will entirely to the Father, how much more ought we to submit ours?
Anyway, thank you again for sharing the clip. I truly appreciate the fellowship and insight.
Heck-I have shared more with you than any other person on this forum!
Coffee time.
J.
Johann
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Old enough to do my gym workout three days a week brother.Oh, brother, that's sad! My I ask how old are you? I was thinking you were young.
J.
civic
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I appreciate you said you use ChatGPT. That’s what I said yesterday as I suspected that was the case. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday.
I will be watching the Masters and will return later tonight.
God does not impute the sin of one to another.
AND SO DEATH PASSED UPON ALL MEN BECAUSE ALL HAVE SINNED. it does not say that death passed upon all men because Adam sinned!!!!
civic
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Love this from google 
ChatGPT can be a helpful tool for Bible study, offering insights and different perspectives on scripture. However, it's crucial to remember that AI like ChatGPT lacks the spiritual insight and understanding that come from faith-based study and human interpretation, and it should not replace the role of scripture in shaping our lives
ChatGPT can be a helpful tool for Bible study, offering insights and different perspectives on scripture. However, it's crucial to remember that AI like ChatGPT lacks the spiritual insight and understanding that come from faith-based study and human interpretation, and it should not replace the role of scripture in shaping our lives
