No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

You mean the Father? They are One with the Spirit.
Unless I have stepped into an alternate universe The Father is God.

John 6:44 states, "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him." This verse emphasizes that it is God who invites individuals to Jesus.

And if they are one with the Sprit then they are one with God the Holy Spirit.
 
Yes , He draws them unto Himself. That's conversion. He persuades them, wins them to Himself. The word for draw has a metaphorical Spiritual meaning:

2. metaphorically, to draw by inward power, lead, impel: John 6:44 (so in Greek also; as ἐπιθυμίας ... ἑλκουσης ἐπί ἡδονάς, Plato, Phaedr., p. 238 a.; ὑπό τῆς ἡδονῆς ἑλκόμενοι, Aelian h. a. 6, 31; likewise 4 Macc. 14:13; 15:8 (11).trahitsuaquemquevoluptas, Vergil, ecl. 2, 65); πάντας ἑλκύσω πρός ἐμαυτόν, I by my moral, my spiritual, influence will win over to myself the hearts of all, John 12:32. Cf. Meyer on John 6:44; (Trench, § 21, Compare: ἐξέλκω.)https://biblehub.com/greek/1670.htm
Drawing is not irresistible.

Nehemiah 9:30 (YLT)

30 `And Thou drawest over them many years, and testifiest against them by Thy Spirit, by the hand of Thy prophets, and they have not given ear, and Thou dost give them into the hand of peoples of the lands,

It is especially important to note that the LXX uses the same Greek word in Nehemiah in the context of God working to bring Israel back to Him, and Israel resisting that work (drawing),

“And many times You rescued them according to Your compassion,

29 And admonished them in order to turn them back to Your law. Yet they acted arrogantly and did not listen to Your commandments but sinned against Your ordinances, By which if a man observes them he shall live. And they turned a stubborn shoulder and stiffened their neck, and would not listen.
30 “However, You bore with them (literally, “drew” them, the same Greek word used in John 6 and 12) for many years, And admonished them by Your Spirit through Your prophets, Yet they would not give ear (which proves that this drawing was not irresistible). Therefore, you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands.
31 “Nevertheless, in Your great compassion You did not make an end of them or forsake them, For You are a gracious and compassionate God.

This really destroys the Calvinists' entire argument, as it is clear from this passage that the Greek word for “draw” does not always convey the idea of irresistible drawing or dragging

Additionaly Jeremiah 31:3

Jeremiah 31:3–4 (KJV 1900)

3 The Lord hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love:
Therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee. 4 Again I will build thee, and thou shalt be built, O virgin of Israel:
Thou shalt again be adorned with thy tabrets, And shalt go forth in the dances of them that make merry.
 
Yes it is in Jn 6:44; 12:32 The drawing brings them to Christ in conversion.
Sorry, there is no mention of irresistibility there.

And you ignored these

Drawing is not irresistible.

Nehemiah 9:30 (YLT)

30 `And Thou drawest over them many years, and testifiest against them by Thy Spirit, by the hand of Thy prophets, and they have not given ear, and Thou dost give them into the hand of peoples of the lands,

It is especially important to note that the LXX uses the same Greek word in Nehemiah in the context of God working to bring Israel back to Him, and Israel resisting that work (drawing),

“And many times You rescued them according to Your compassion,

29 And admonished them in order to turn them back to Your law. Yet they acted arrogantly and did not listen to Your commandments but sinned against Your ordinances, By which if a man observes them he shall live. And they turned a stubborn shoulder and stiffened their neck, and would not listen.
30 “However, You bore with them (literally, “drew” them, the same Greek word used in John 6 and 12) for many years, And admonished them by Your Spirit through Your prophets, Yet they would not give ear (which proves that this drawing was not irresistible). Therefore, you gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands.
31 “Nevertheless, in Your great compassion You did not make an end of them or forsake them, For You are a gracious and compassionate God.

This really destroys the Calvinists' entire argument, as it is clear from this passage that the Greek word for “draw” does not always convey the idea of irresistible drawing or dragging

Additionaly Jeremiah 31:3

Jeremiah 31:3–4 (KJV 1900)

3 The Lord hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love:
Therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee. 4 Again I will build thee, and thou shalt be built, O virgin of Israel:
Thou shalt again be adorned with thy tabrets, And shalt go forth in the dances of them that make merry.
 
Wait a minute... as usual you twist things to fit your own need.

Is it the Father drawing them to the Son or is it the Son drawing them?

You keep saying that only the elect are drawn... not all.

Why would the elect need to be drawn to be converted.

Either way, neither fits with the notion of predestination now does it?


What happened to God drawing them to Christ?
they don't need to be drawn since in his theology they were already saved before creation. no need for the gospel either.
 
Yep it is a common error

But if you are going to say the drawing is irresistible, you have universalism.
correct but somehow in John 12:32 everyone/all men/mankind really means only the elect. the meaning of everyone in the passage takes on a different meaning all together. its similar to how unitarians twist Gods word to deny the Deity of Christ and give words different meanings.
 
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