Eternally-Grateful
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Like I said
when I hear the word preach to. I think of judgment, Hell fire and brimstone teachers. etc etc.
Give me a pastor-teacher to teach the word. not preach the word
An Article on free will
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when I hear the word preach to. I think of judgment, Hell fire and brimstone teachers. etc etc.
Give me a pastor-teacher to teach the word. not preach the word
brightfame52
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brightfame52
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Where does the ability to hear come from ? All cannot hear Jn 8:43
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Do you understand the word cannot as in cannot hear ?
brightfame52
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So where does hearing come from ? Man has it not by nature since we are spiritually dead and deaf Jn 8:43
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
God must miraculous open deaf ears Isa 29:18
And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.
praise_yeshua
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I don't see that you made that distinction earlier. Thanks for making it now.
When I discuss English words relative to the Scriptures. I use the Scriptures to define those terms.
Can you tell me what the difference is between preaching and teaching?
TibiasDad
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When faced with an offer, to accept or reject that offer is an action on our part and that is something; it is a choice, and a choice is something!
Doug
Dizerner
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Reminds me of the iconic trolley dilemma.
Salty
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Right. A choice is an act of selecting or making a decision when faced with two or more possibilities:
"the choice between good and evil."
You believe you buy your way into heaven with your fleshly free-will faith payment in your "apart from Christ, I chose to believe Christ so Christ must profit me with salvation", yet the Christ of us Christians declares "I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing" (John 15:5) and "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God" (John 3:3) and “you did not choose Me, but I chose you” (John 15:16) and “I chose you out of the world” (John 15:19, includes salvation) and “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent” (John 6:29) and “It is the Spirit who gives Life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are Spirit and are Life” (John 6:63), so you believe falsehood (2 Peter 2:1, 2 Peter 2:9-10).
Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).
In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE THE EXCLUSIVE CHOOSER OF THE CHOSEN OF GOD!!!
Salty
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Right free-will is where it's at.
Hop on the bus Guss
"The problem is all inside your head," I'm telling ya
The answer is easy if you take it logically"
I'd like to help you in your struggle to be free
There must be 50 ways to get free from works salvation.
MTMattie
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Exactly. IOW Free -Will
I praise Lord Jesus Christ who is the Truth (John 14:6) setting every Christian, including me, free from sin for my blessed Savior says "If you abide in my Word, you are truly my disciples, and you will know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free.”" (John 8:31-32). I am eternally grateful for my Lord Jesus Christ's words and works! The Truth Jesus Christ set me free!
You believe your free-will set you free because without your free-will choosing then you would be damned according to Free-willian Philosophy.
Behold, your fleshly false free-will is that which you believe sets you free, not the Truth (John 14:6).
You and @TibiasDad (because of his heart's treasure (Matthew 15:16-19, Matthew 6:21) "Like" in your post) both reject the Word of God who says "He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day" (John 12:48).
You believe you buy your way into heaven with your fleshly free-will faith payment in your "apart from Christ, I chose to believe Christ so Christ must profit me with salvation", yet the Christ of us Christians declares "I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing" (John 15:5) and "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God" (John 3:3) and “you did not choose Me, but I chose you” (John 15:16) and “I chose you out of the world” (John 15:19, includes salvation) and “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent” (John 6:29) and “It is the Spirit who gives Life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are Spirit and are Life” (John 6:63), so you believe falsehood (2 Peter 2:1, 2 Peter 2:9-10).
Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men leading to worship in vain (Matthew 15:9).
In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE THE EXCLUSIVE CHOOSER OF THE CHOSEN OF GOD!!!
civic
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More false accusations. You are projecting as usual. You cannot defend your beliefs without attacking others
Richard
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Man has the freedom of choice to accept or reject Christ's sacrifice. It is God’s will that all be saved, but since man has the power of choice, God saves only those who repent of their sin and believe in the work of Christ on the cross. Those who refuse in this life to repent and believe have no later chance to be saved and thus condemn themselves to eternal damnation by their unbelief.
And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD. Joshua 24:15
And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD. Joshua 24:15
civic
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yes man has the freedom to choose to serve God or reject Him.
Here is the Truth (John 14:6) in the following of this post, civic. I celebrate the glory of God, and God causes me to include observations about your personally stated belief as you posted in this very thread opposing the Word of God.
The Word of God is absolute Truth (John 14:6)! I believe in Lord Jesus Christ!
The Apostle John enjoins us Christians "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world" (1 John 4:1).
Testing your spirit, in your post, you launch empty accusations devoid of any Word of God against this Christian who believes in the Christ. Your spirit must be tested more.
Lord Jesus Christ's atonement always succeeds! But, you demand your CHRIST'S FAILURE ATONEMENT as recorded in post #3,926 of this thread. According to your Free-willian Philosophy Christ's atonement applies to all people everywhere in all time, and the following represents fleshly people, dead in sin, ungodly multitude, unbelievers:
- if Tom of the world chooses to believe in Christ before he dies, then God must profit Tom with eternal life being saved from the wrath of God.
- if Nancy of the world chooses to believe not in Christ right until her dying thoughts, then God must punish Nancy with eternal damnation being under the wrath of God.
- The conclusion: Christ's atonement succeeded in saving Tom of the world, and Christ's atonement failed in saving Nancy of the world.
The Grace of God always succeeds! But, you demand your EARNABLY RESISTIBLE GRACE OF GOD deception as recorded in post #5,496 of this thread.
King Jesus of the Kingdom of God exclusively controls admission into the Kingdom of God for the Glory of God! But you demand your free-willian UnBiblical Order of Salvation as recorded in post #2,495 of this thread. The loving Christ of us Christians opens our ears to hear the Word of God in Truth (John 14:6):
And looking up to heaven, He sighed deeply and said to him, "Ephphatha!" (which means, "Be opened!"). Immediately the man’s ears were opened and his tongue was released, and he began to speak plainly.
(Mark 7:34-35)
But you do not believe Christ does the wonders that He does, instead, you believe you open your own self-willed ears (2 Peter 2:9-10).The blessed filling of the Holy Spirit occurs before Pentecost with "Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit" (Luke 1:41), yet your anti-truth ABSENCE OF THE INDWELLING HOLY SPIRIT BEFORE PENTECOST is your ungodly preaching as recorded in
post #5,718.
Your spirit emits false thoughts against the Holy Spirit of the Living God!
Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men leading to worship in vain (Matthew 15:9).
In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE THE LIVING GOD, JESUS CHRIST!!!
civic
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Of course the scripture you quoted is all true , your understanding of them is wrong.
In your above quoted post of January, 9 2025, you convey that you believe I must leave others to defend themselves; in other words, you command others not to help others.
In your above quoted post of January 17, 2025, you do not leave others to defend themselves; in other words, you believe others are bound yet you are above your own command of others not to help others.
@civic, you work hypocrisy.
"But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut off the kingdom of heaven from people" (Lord Jesus Christ, Matthew 23:13).
@civic, your command is antichrist, and I reject your command!
“A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another” (Lord Jesus Christ, John 13:34).
@civic, your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men leading to worship in vain (Matthew 15:9).
In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!
