An Article on free will

[Eternally-Grateful]

That is a good question. How do you see preaching? When anyone reads the Scriptures they are "hearing" preaching.

No one gets saved without hearing/consuming the words that come from the Gospel.

yes.

But when I share the gospel. I am not preaching.. I guess its the word you used

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

He has always done this. I put him on ignore and take him off. I do this because I have hope he will actually listen one day. He came over from the Matt Slick forum at CARM. I try different "angles" at times to try and get him to listen. He isn't listening. Thusly, he doesn't understand.

I know him from christian chat and christian forums and others..

Like you I try.. but then I just have to walk away

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Right.

So by this logic, if I see a stop sign, and just decide to "not do anything" and keep going, then that wasn't doing something.

Sometimes the most significant things we do in life, is our refusal to do what we should, and that is "doing something."

And if you get hit by a car coming crossways and killed.

did you die because you did something

Or did you die because you did not do something?

But I agree with your second statement, To know to do good and not do it is sin according to the word.

 

[civic]

I know him from christian chat and christian forums and others..

Like you I try.. but then I just have to walk away

I was once very stubborn and indreanched in my calvinist theology just like him. There is hope

 

[praise_yeshua]

yes.

But when I share the gospel. I am not preaching.. I guess its the word you used

I disagree. You are preaching when you share the Gospel. There is this false concept in Christianity that "preachers" are this special human being that is the only person that can share the Gospel. That isn't true.

Abraham shared the Gospel with his sons. You can see this in what Paul wrote about Abraham. "preached before". People also "live the Gospel". You can't live the Gospel without words of witness to the Gospel.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

I was once very stubborn and indreanched in my calvinist theology just like him. There is hope

Amen,, Another reason I will try to engage from time to time.

 

[praise_yeshua]

And if you get hit by a car coming crossways and killed.

did you die because you did something

Or did you die because you did not do something?

But I agree with your second statement, To know to do good and not do it is sin according to the word.

Most people (not saying you're included) don't realize that whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

Everything must be sincere in belief or it is sin to us. Even if we are wrong about what we believe. It is contrary to our existence to live fake lives.

Rom 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

Whatever we do, it must be sincere and "faithful" to our own understanding. There is innocence to be found in this. Eve believed the Serpent. In that belief she acted contrary to Adam and God.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

I disagree. You are preaching when you share the Gospel. There is this false concept in Christianity that "preachers" are this special human being that is the only person that can share the Gospel. That isn't true.

Abraham shared the Gospel with his sons. You can see this in what Paul wrote about Abraham. "preached before". People also "live the Gospel". You can't live the Gospel without words of witness to the Gospel.

When I hear the word preaching. I hear it as a negative term. When you are preaching to me you are judging me. or whatever.

I share the gospel. I do not preach to people..

Even in church. I discuss the word and try to help teach it. i do not preach to people.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Most people (not saying you're included) don't realize that whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

Everything must be sincere in belief or it is sin to us. Even if we are wrong about what we believe. It is contrary to our existence to live fake lives.

Rom 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

Whatever we do, it must be sincere and "faithful" to our own understanding. There is innocence to be found in this. Eve believed the Serpent. In that belief she acted contrary to Adam and God.

yes. thats why Jesus tell the workers who come and try to drop their works ar his feet (lord lord did I not do this and that and that) depart from I never knew you., ye who practice sin.

 

[civic]

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So many words that say nothing at all. For the author is obviously one of those in Isaiah 6: 9-10 which proclaims

And He replied: “Go and tell this people, ‘Be ever hearing, but never understanding; be ever seeing, but never perceiving.’ / Make the hearts of this people calloused; deafen their ears and close their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed.”

Or Mathew 13: 14-15 which also proclaims

In them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled: ‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. / For this people’s heart has grown callous; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn, and I would heal them.’

ditto

 

[praise_yeshua]

When I hear the word preaching. I hear it as a negative term. When you are preaching to me you are judging me. or whatever.

I share the gospel. I do not preach to people..

Even in church. I discuss the word and try to help teach it. i do not preach to people.

In my thoughts.... you shouldn't see it this way....

Paul quotes Isaiah in context to the "preaching".

Isa 52:7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!

 

[praise_yeshua]

yes. thats why Jesus tell the workers who come and try to drop their works ar his feet (lord lord did I not do this and that and that) depart from I never knew you., ye who practice sin.

Well said!

 

[Duane]

Feels like I'm speaking to the air half the time on here for sure, lol.

That's the “breath of life”. The Hebrew word for spirit is ruach, which means “wind, breath, air, spirit.”

 

[Duane]

I was once very stubborn and indreanched in my calvinist theology just like him. There is hope

I use to be a Calvinist but Jesus set me free.

 

[Dizerner]

And "Free Grace" is Calvinism's illegitimate child.

 

[Jim]

The actions of "faith" are defined in many words found throughout the Scriptures.

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Many people try to insist that verse 1 defines faith... yet verse #1 just simply says that faith has substance and that is the substance of hope. You need more than this to understand faith. That is the purpose of verse #6.

But be careful how you interpret the phrase "impossible to please him". It does not mean that the mother without faith in God displeases God when she nurses her baby. God can be quite happy (pleased) with all the good and right things that the one without faith does and still be one who does not please God.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

In my thoughts.... you shouldn't see it this way....

Paul quotes Isaiah in context to the "preaching".

Isa 52:7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!

to me that's not preaching. When I think of the word. Thats not what I see

 

[praise_yeshua]

But be careful how you interpret the phrase "impossible to please him". It does not mean that the mother without faith in God displeases God when she nurses her baby. God can be quite happy (pleased) with all the good and right things that the one without faith does and still be one who does not please God.

That is hope brother. Hope. God hopes. If that mother passes on her unbelief to her baby, that child will negatively impact this world. There is a balance that takes place in this life between good and evil. When that balance/scale stays on the "evil" side this world becomes filled with reprobates.

This kingdom of God isn't filled with reprobates. It is Eternal. Heavenly. Not of this world. That kingdom one day will be lead by Christ to overcome those reprobates. It will NOT be fun to watch as the people we love fall.......

I have a real problem with how many people see vengeance apart from a loving God. (Not saying you are. Just explaining my view.)

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

And "Free Grace" is Calvinism's illegitimate child.

Grace is not free. Jesus paid for it by coming to earth. and suffering the cross.

so free grace is a misnomer

 

[praise_yeshua]

to me that's not preaching. When I think of the word. Thats not what I see

Can you explain?

I will say....there is modern concept that exists in many denominations that they answer to "preachers". That at the top of the hierarchy in "answering to God" there is a man between humanity and Jesus Christ. I reject such nonsense. I once believed this myself. I once was one of them. I'm a former ordained "preacher" by respected men among our peers. I can tell you, that none of them will recognize I am such anymore. It doesn't change in my relationship with God.