An Article on free will

I believe in the Sovereignty of God

Praise Jesus !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hope this helps !!!

Your heart demotes God while exalting man with your "apart from Christ, I chose Christ so Christ must profit me with salvation" in spite of this Word of God proclaimed "I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing" (John 15:5) and "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God" (John 3:3) and “you did not choose Me, but I chose you” (John 15:16) and “I chose you out of the world” (John 15:19, includes salvation) and “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent” (John 6:29) and “It is the Spirit who gives Life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are Spirit and are Life” (John 6:63).

Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).

In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME!!!
 
I discerned you believe in the sovereignty of God before I responded to you and @DavidTree. Praise be to God!

Isaiah 45:7 has been discussed in this thread, previously, at the same time as this Word of God "No one is good except God alone" (Lord Jesus Christ, Mark 10:18).

The free-willians insisted that they are inherently good to be able to choose the Good God.

Post #4,976 shows @TomL, the guy who made the original post to this thread, declaring his inherent goodness that, in Truth (John 14:6), he cannot have apart from Christ.

You can see @civic failing to defend his inherent goodness of "apart from Christ, I chose Christ so Christ must profit me with salvation" in post #5,472. @civic believes his error about Adam which he then leverages to believe he can see King Jesus of the Kingdom of God in the true splendor of the Living God without civic being born of God, and civic believes his error despite being shown the Word of God "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God" (John 3:3).

We Christians believe in the Chris, and we believe His sayings which are Life.

These blessedly beautiful sayings include the Christ's "I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing" (John 15:5) and "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God" (John 3:3) and “you did not choose Me, but I chose you” (John 15:16) and “I chose you out of the world” (John 15:19, includes salvation) and “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent” (John 6:29) and “It is the Spirit who gives Life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are Spirit and are Life” (John 6:63).

Praise be to Lord Jesus for who He is and for His deliverance of us His sheep!

A saved by Grace yet unworthy slave of Lord Jesus,
Kermos
I discerned you believe in the sovereignty of God
Crystal clear in the scriptures.
 
Luke 16:27-31 -“He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’ ‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”

Above we see that Jesus declared the physical dead and spiritual dead can respond to spiritual things. The dead spiritual/physical dead man is pleading for his own brother’s life.

Lord Jesus spoke in parables for He, my Lord, says "The knowledge of the mysteries of the Kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that, ‘though seeing, they may not see; though hearing, they may not understand.’" (Luke 8:10), and you quoted one such parable, and you demonstrate your failure to understand with your fleshly mind's interpretation to draw a fatefully wrong conclusion among which is that the Grace of God is earnably resistible.

The dead man pleading for his own brother’s life demonstrated his failure to understand the Grace of God as is visible in the response Jesus assigned to father Abraham "If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not believe even if someone rises from the dead" (Luke 16:31).

The Grace of God always succeeds!

Your self-willed (2 Peter 2:9-10) earnable resistible grace interpretation adulterates the Word of God as evidenced through your own writings recorded in your post to which God causes me to respond now:
The Book of civicThe Book of Luke
And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, that you send him to my father’s house for I have five brothers in order that he may warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’ But he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent!’ But he said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets to earn the Grace of God, they will not believe even if someone rises from the dead thus resisting the Grace of God.
(civic 16:27-31)
And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, that you send him to my father’s house for I have five brothers in order that he may warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’ But he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent!’ But he said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not believe even if someone rises from the dead. (Luke 16:27-31)
so your heart preaches your sovereignty of man eliminating the Sovereignty of God, and so go your adulterations of the the Holy Scripture, again.

The statement "If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not believe even if someone rises from the dead" (Luke 16:31) reveals that they will not receive the gracious work of God revealed in “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent” (John 6:29).

According to your preaching, man controls the Love of God, yet Apostolic testimony is "the Love of Christ controls us" Christians (2 Corinthians 5:14) - a blessed Apostolic testimony in the Holy Spirit.

Your testimony is man earns the unearned Love of God because man chooses the Love of God.

This post is an integral continuation with:
  1. post #5,018 - Evaluated Your Conclusion That God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  2. post #5,019 - Your Adulteration of Matthew 22:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  3. post #5,024 - Your Destruction of Jerusalem, Jerusalem in Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  4. post #5,026 - Hebrews 6:4-8 Exposes The Impossibility Of A Christian To Expose The Christ To Public Shame Despite Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  5. post #5,031 - You Declare The Almighty God Is Miserably Weak Per Your Heart's Rendition Of Luke 19:41 For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  6. post #5,036 - You fallen away from God's Grace is not you fallen out of God's Grace in Galatians 5:4-7, so your self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is resistible and earnable fails to be your proof.
  7. post #5,045 - You believe Lord Jesus, who is Love, fails by your quoting of Hebrews 12:14-15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  8. post #5,078 - You believe Almighty God, who is Love, fails by your quoting of 2 Corinthians 6:1 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  9. post #5,105 - Your perverted a warning into a binding judgment in Hebrews 10:29 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  10. post #5,132 - Your heart adulterates Hebrews 12:25's word "warns" into the word "condemns" As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  11. post #5,168 - You Added Free-will into Genesis 6:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  12. post #5,190 - Your Heart Revised History In 2 Chronicles 36:15-16 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  13. post #5,249 - Proverbs 29:1 Fails As A Proof Text For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  14. post #5,327 - your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) is not in Isaiah 30:15 - so Your Fallible Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable is proven anti-truth.
  15. post #5,376 - your Failure Atonement of Christ is akin to your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) as your adulteration of Isaiah 65:2 Shows.
  16. post #5,394 - You confuse God's patience with God's grace per Jeremiah 35:15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  17. post #5,396 - The uncircumcised in heart are the same as people not born of God, so God did not give God's Unearned Grace to those people recorded in Acts 7:51 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  18. post #5,416 - You add "grace" and "free-will" into Acts 13:46 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  19. post #5,347 - Your malinterpretation of Romans 10:21 Is Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  20. post #5,454 - The self-willed people were not recipients of God's Grace as per Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  21. post #5,472 - Evil Adam saw not the Good God in God's fullness (see John 3:3) As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  22. post #5,480 - your heart deletes God's compassion (pity) while adding God's Grace to the environs of the passage of Psalm 78:17;40 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
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Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).

In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE THE SOVEREIGN KING JESUS CHRIST!!!
 
Lord Jesus spoke in parables for He, my Lord, says "The knowledge of the mysteries of the Kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that, ‘though seeing, they may not see; though hearing, they may not understand.’" (Luke 8:10), and you quoted one such parable, and you demonstrate your failure to understand with your fleshly mind's interpretation to draw a fatefully wrong conclusion among which is that the Grace of God is earnably resistible.

The dead man pleading for his own brother’s life demonstrated his failure to understand the Grace of God as is visible in the response Jesus assigned to father Abraham "If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not believe even if someone rises from the dead" (Luke 16:31).

The Grace of God always succeeds!

Your self-willed (2 Peter 2:9-10) earnable resistible grace interpretation adulterates the Word of God as evidenced through your own writings recorded in your post to which God causes me to respond now:
The Book of civicThe Book of Luke
And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, that you send him to my father’s house for I have five brothers in order that he may warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’ But he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent!’ But he said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets to earn the Grace of God, they will not believe even if someone rises from the dead thus resisting the Grace of God.
(civic 16:27-31)
And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, that you send him to my father’s house for I have five brothers in order that he may warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’ But he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent!’ But he said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not believe even if someone rises from the dead. (Luke 16:27-31)
so your heart preaches your sovereignty of man eliminating the Sovereignty of God, and so go your adulterations of the the Holy Scripture, again.

The statement "If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not believe even if someone rises from the dead" (Luke 16:31) reveals that they will not receive the gracious work of God revealed in “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent” (John 6:29).

According to your preaching, man controls the Love of God, yet Apostolic testimony is "the Love of Christ controls us" Christians (2 Corinthians 5:14) - a blessed Apostolic testimony in the Holy Spirit.

Your testimony is man earns the unearned Love of God because man chooses the Love of God.

This post is an integral continuation with:
  1. post #5,018 - Evaluated Your Conclusion That God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  2. post #5,019 - Your Adulteration of Matthew 22:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  3. post #5,024 - Your Destruction of Jerusalem, Jerusalem in Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  4. post #5,026 - Hebrews 6:4-8 Exposes The Impossibility Of A Christian To Expose The Christ To Public Shame Despite Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  5. post #5,031 - You Declare The Almighty God Is Miserably Weak Per Your Heart's Rendition Of Luke 19:41 For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  6. post #5,036 - You fallen away from God's Grace is not you fallen out of God's Grace in Galatians 5:4-7, so your self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is resistible and earnable fails to be your proof.
  7. post #5,045 - You believe Lord Jesus, who is Love, fails by your quoting of Hebrews 12:14-15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  8. post #5,078 - You believe Almighty God, who is Love, fails by your quoting of 2 Corinthians 6:1 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  9. post #5,105 - Your perverted a warning into a binding judgment in Hebrews 10:29 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  10. post #5,132 - Your heart adulterates Hebrews 12:25's word "warns" into the word "condemns" As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  11. post #5,168 - You Added Free-will into Genesis 6:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  12. post #5,190 - Your Heart Revised History In 2 Chronicles 36:15-16 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  13. post #5,249 - Proverbs 29:1 Fails As A Proof Text For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  14. post #5,327 - your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) is not in Isaiah 30:15 - so Your Fallible Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable is proven anti-truth.
  15. post #5,376 - your Failure Atonement of Christ is akin to your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) as your adulteration of Isaiah 65:2 Shows.
  16. post #5,394 - You confuse God's patience with God's grace per Jeremiah 35:15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  17. post #5,396 - The uncircumcised in heart are the same as people not born of God, so God did not give God's Unearned Grace to those people recorded in Acts 7:51 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  18. post #5,416 - You add "grace" and "free-will" into Acts 13:46 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  19. post #5,347 - Your malinterpretation of Romans 10:21 Is Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  20. post #5,454 - The self-willed people were not recipients of God's Grace as per Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  21. post #5,472 - Evil Adam saw not the Good God in God's fullness (see John 3:3) As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  22. post #5,480 - your heart deletes God's compassion (pity) while adding God's Grace to the environs of the passage of Psalm 78:17;40 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
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Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).

In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE THE SOVEREIGN KING JESUS CHRIST!!!
Fatalism ☝️
 
Jesus declares in John 5:25, “An hour is coming, and is now here, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live.” Here Jesus says the spiritually dead can and will hear him

Lord Jesus Christ causes the spiritually dead to hear for King Jesus of the Kingdom of God declares "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God" (John 3:3); therefore, only people whom God chooses are "those who hear will live." (John 5:25), and this Truth (John 14:6) is certain because Lord Jesus says “he who practices the Truth comes to the Light, so that his works may be manifested as having been wrought in God” (John 3:21).

Your self-willed (2 Peter 2:9-10) earnable resistible grace interpretation adulterates the Word of God as evidenced through your own writings recorded in your post to which God causes me to respond now:
The Book of civicThe Book of John
Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and all will hear and those who free-will choose to earn My Grace by accepting My Grace will live, but those who hear yet resist My Grace will remain dead.
(civic 5:25)
Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. (John 5:25)
so your heart preaches your sovereignty of man eliminating the Sovereignty of God, and so go your adulterations of the the Holy Scripture, again.

According to your preaching, man controls the Love of God, yet Apostolic testimony is "the Love of Christ controls us" Christians (2 Corinthians 5:14) - a blessed Apostolic testimony in the Holy Spirit.

Your testimony is man earns the unearned Love of God because man chooses the Love of God.

This post is an integral continuation with:
  1. post #5,018 - Evaluated Your Conclusion That God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  2. post #5,019 - Your Adulteration of Matthew 22:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  3. post #5,024 - Your Destruction of Jerusalem, Jerusalem in Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  4. post #5,026 - Hebrews 6:4-8 Exposes The Impossibility Of A Christian To Expose The Christ To Public Shame Despite Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  5. post #5,031 - You Declare The Almighty God Is Miserably Weak Per Your Heart's Rendition Of Luke 19:41 For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  6. post #5,036 - You fallen away from God's Grace is not you fallen out of God's Grace in Galatians 5:4-7, so your self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is resistible and earnable fails to be your proof.
  7. post #5,045 - You believe Lord Jesus, who is Love, fails by your quoting of Hebrews 12:14-15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  8. post #5,078 - You believe Almighty God, who is Love, fails by your quoting of 2 Corinthians 6:1 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  9. post #5,105 - Your perverted a warning into a binding judgment in Hebrews 10:29 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  10. post #5,132 - Your heart adulterates Hebrews 12:25's word "warns" into the word "condemns" As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  11. post #5,168 - You Added Free-will into Genesis 6:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  12. post #5,190 - Your Heart Revised History In 2 Chronicles 36:15-16 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  13. post #5,249 - Proverbs 29:1 Fails As A Proof Text For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  14. post #5,327 - your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) is not in Isaiah 30:15 - so Your Fallible Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable is proven anti-truth.
  15. post #5,376 - your Failure Atonement of Christ is akin to your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) as your adulteration of Isaiah 65:2 Shows.
  16. post #5,394 - You confuse God's patience with God's grace per Jeremiah 35:15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  17. post #5,396 - The uncircumcised in heart are the same as people not born of God, so God did not give God's Unearned Grace to those people recorded in Acts 7:51 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  18. post #5,416 - You add "grace" and "free-will" into Acts 13:46 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  19. post #5,347 - Your malinterpretation of Romans 10:21 Is Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  20. post #5,454 - The self-willed people were not recipients of God's Grace as per Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  21. post #5,472 - Evil Adam saw not the Good God in God's fullness (see John 3:3) As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  22. post #5,480 - your heart deletes God's compassion (pity) while adding God's Grace to the environs of the passage of Psalm 78:17;40 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  23. post #5,484 - you demonstrate your failure to see Jesus with your fatefully wrong thoughts regarding Luke 16:27-31 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.

Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).

In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE THE SOVEREIGN KING JESUS CHRIST!!!
 
Lord Jesus Christ causes the spiritually dead to hear for King Jesus of the Kingdom of God declares "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God" (John 3:3); therefore, only people whom God chooses are "those who hear will live." (John 5:25), and this Truth (John 14:6) is certain because Lord Jesus says “he who practices the Truth comes to the Light, so that his works may be manifested as having been wrought in God” (John 3:21).

Your self-willed (2 Peter 2:9-10) earnable resistible grace interpretation adulterates the Word of God as evidenced through your own writings recorded in your post to which God causes me to respond now:
The Book of civicThe Book of John
Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and all will hear and those who free-will choose to earn My Grace by accepting My Grace will live, but those who hear yet resist My Grace will remain dead.
(civic 5:25)
Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. (John 5:25)
so your heart preaches your sovereignty of man eliminating the Sovereignty of God, and so go your adulterations of the the Holy Scripture, again.

According to your preaching, man controls the Love of God, yet Apostolic testimony is "the Love of Christ controls us" Christians (2 Corinthians 5:14) - a blessed Apostolic testimony in the Holy Spirit.

Your testimony is man earns the unearned Love of God because man chooses the Love of God.

This post is an integral continuation with:
  1. post #5,018 - Evaluated Your Conclusion That God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  2. post #5,019 - Your Adulteration of Matthew 22:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  3. post #5,024 - Your Destruction of Jerusalem, Jerusalem in Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  4. post #5,026 - Hebrews 6:4-8 Exposes The Impossibility Of A Christian To Expose The Christ To Public Shame Despite Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  5. post #5,031 - You Declare The Almighty God Is Miserably Weak Per Your Heart's Rendition Of Luke 19:41 For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  6. post #5,036 - You fallen away from God's Grace is not you fallen out of God's Grace in Galatians 5:4-7, so your self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is resistible and earnable fails to be your proof.
  7. post #5,045 - You believe Lord Jesus, who is Love, fails by your quoting of Hebrews 12:14-15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  8. post #5,078 - You believe Almighty God, who is Love, fails by your quoting of 2 Corinthians 6:1 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  9. post #5,105 - Your perverted a warning into a binding judgment in Hebrews 10:29 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  10. post #5,132 - Your heart adulterates Hebrews 12:25's word "warns" into the word "condemns" As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  11. post #5,168 - You Added Free-will into Genesis 6:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  12. post #5,190 - Your Heart Revised History In 2 Chronicles 36:15-16 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  13. post #5,249 - Proverbs 29:1 Fails As A Proof Text For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  14. post #5,327 - your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) is not in Isaiah 30:15 - so Your Fallible Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable is proven anti-truth.
  15. post #5,376 - your Failure Atonement of Christ is akin to your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) as your adulteration of Isaiah 65:2 Shows.
  16. post #5,394 - You confuse God's patience with God's grace per Jeremiah 35:15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  17. post #5,396 - The uncircumcised in heart are the same as people not born of God, so God did not give God's Unearned Grace to those people recorded in Acts 7:51 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  18. post #5,416 - You add "grace" and "free-will" into Acts 13:46 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  19. post #5,347 - Your malinterpretation of Romans 10:21 Is Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  20. post #5,454 - The self-willed people were not recipients of God's Grace as per Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  21. post #5,472 - Evil Adam saw not the Good God in God's fullness (see John 3:3) As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  22. post #5,480 - your heart deletes God's compassion (pity) while adding God's Grace to the environs of the passage of Psalm 78:17;40 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  23. post #5,484 - you demonstrate your failure to see Jesus with your fatefully wrong thoughts regarding Luke 16:27-31 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.

Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).

In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE THE SOVEREIGN KING JESUS CHRIST!!!
the same gookgobbly, gobblygook cut n paste.
 
Lord Jesus Christ causes the spiritually dead to hear for King Jesus of the Kingdom of God declares "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God" (John 3:3); therefore, only people whom God chooses are "those who hear will live." (John 5:25), and this Truth (John 14:6) is certain because Lord Jesus says “he who practices the Truth comes to the Light, so that his works may be manifested as having been wrought in God” (John 3:21).

Your self-willed (2 Peter 2:9-10) earnable resistible grace interpretation adulterates the Word of God as evidenced through your own writings recorded in your post to which God causes me to respond now:
The Book of civicThe Book of John
Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and all will hear and those who free-will choose to earn My Grace by accepting My Grace will live, but those who hear yet resist My Grace will remain dead.
(civic 5:25)
Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. (John 5:25)
so your heart preaches your sovereignty of man eliminating the Sovereignty of God, and so go your adulterations of the the Holy Scripture, again.

According to your preaching, man controls the Love of God, yet Apostolic testimony is "the Love of Christ controls us" Christians (2 Corinthians 5:14) - a blessed Apostolic testimony in the Holy Spirit.

Your testimony is man earns the unearned Love of God because man chooses the Love of God.

This post is an integral continuation with:
  1. post #5,018 - Evaluated Your Conclusion That God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  2. post #5,019 - Your Adulteration of Matthew 22:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  3. post #5,024 - Your Destruction of Jerusalem, Jerusalem in Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  4. post #5,026 - Hebrews 6:4-8 Exposes The Impossibility Of A Christian To Expose The Christ To Public Shame Despite Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  5. post #5,031 - You Declare The Almighty God Is Miserably Weak Per Your Heart's Rendition Of Luke 19:41 For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  6. post #5,036 - You fallen away from God's Grace is not you fallen out of God's Grace in Galatians 5:4-7, so your self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is resistible and earnable fails to be your proof.
  7. post #5,045 - You believe Lord Jesus, who is Love, fails by your quoting of Hebrews 12:14-15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  8. post #5,078 - You believe Almighty God, who is Love, fails by your quoting of 2 Corinthians 6:1 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  9. post #5,105 - Your perverted a warning into a binding judgment in Hebrews 10:29 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  10. post #5,132 - Your heart adulterates Hebrews 12:25's word "warns" into the word "condemns" As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  11. post #5,168 - You Added Free-will into Genesis 6:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  12. post #5,190 - Your Heart Revised History In 2 Chronicles 36:15-16 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  13. post #5,249 - Proverbs 29:1 Fails As A Proof Text For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  14. post #5,327 - your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) is not in Isaiah 30:15 - so Your Fallible Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable is proven anti-truth.
  15. post #5,376 - your Failure Atonement of Christ is akin to your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) as your adulteration of Isaiah 65:2 Shows.
  16. post #5,394 - You confuse God's patience with God's grace per Jeremiah 35:15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  17. post #5,396 - The uncircumcised in heart are the same as people not born of God, so God did not give God's Unearned Grace to those people recorded in Acts 7:51 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  18. post #5,416 - You add "grace" and "free-will" into Acts 13:46 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  19. post #5,347 - Your malinterpretation of Romans 10:21 Is Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  20. post #5,454 - The self-willed people were not recipients of God's Grace as per Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  21. post #5,472 - Evil Adam saw not the Good God in God's fullness (see John 3:3) As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  22. post #5,480 - your heart deletes God's compassion (pity) while adding God's Grace to the environs of the passage of Psalm 78:17;40 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  23. post #5,484 - you demonstrate your failure to see Jesus with your fatefully wrong thoughts regarding Luke 16:27-31 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.

Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).

In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE THE SOVEREIGN KING JESUS CHRIST!!!
Jesus teaching refutes your Fatalism , Determinism, tulip/ Calvinism

Matthew 13- The Parable of the Sower



1The same day went Jesus out of the house, and sat by the sea side.
2 And great multitudes were gathered together unto him, so that he went into a ship, and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.
3 And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:
5 Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:
6 And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.
7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:
8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.


10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.


18 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.


19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.

23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

T- man can choose to hear, see and receive the gospel
U- all can choose to believe and receive as demonstrated in the parable of the 4 soils
L- all soils received the seed without exception
I- 3 soils resisted all but 1 soil remained faithful and did not resist
P- 3/4 soils ( minds/hearts )did not preserver in the faith

1- Only something alive can be choked. You cannot choke the dead. And as we can see they all had life to begin with in each soil.
2- Only something alive can be scorched by the Sun and withered.
3- Only someone alive can receive the word in the heart and have it snatched away
4- Only someone alive can receive the word with Joy and endure for a while

Luke 14:23 And the master said to the servant, ‘Go out to the highways and hedges and compel (αναγκασον) people to come in, that my house may be filled. 24 For I tell you, none of those men who were invited shall taste my banquet.’” @synergy. Remember this from the old forum :) The Greek word αναγκασον is to urge or compel, not irresistibly draw.

There are 4 major Calvinist pillars that fall with the Parable of the Wedding Feast which is connected to the Parable of the Sower above.
  1. Monergism (Total Depravity),
  2. Preservation of Saints (many called by God but few chosen by God),
  3. Irresistible Grace (many called by God but few chosen by God),
  4. and even Limited Atonement because as many as could possibly be found were invited

hope this helps !!
 
Continued for @Kermos the fatalist/ determinist

Resistible Grace

Acts 7:51
“You men who are stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears are always resisting the Holy Spirit; you are doing just as your fathers did.

Matthew 22:3
And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

Matthew 23:37
Jerusalem, Jerusalem, killing the prophets and stoning those having been sent to her! How often would I have gathered together your children, the way in which a hen gathers together her chicks under the wings, and you were not willing!

Proverbs 1:24
Because I have called and you refused to listen, have stretched out my hand and no one has heeded,

Isaiah 65:12
I will destine you for the sword, and you will all kneel down to be slaughtered, because I called and you did not answer, I spoke and you did not listen; you did evil in My sight and chose that in which I did not delight."

Isaiah 66:4
So I will choose their punishment and I will bring terror upon them, because I called and no one answered, I spoke and no one listened. But they did evil in My sight and chose that in which I did not delight."


The Atonement has no limits

John 1:29
The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!

Hebrews 2:9
But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.

Titus 2:11
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men,

Titus 3:4
But when the kindness and the love of mankind of God our Savior appeared

John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

1 Timothy 2:4
Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord does not delay his promise, as some regard “delay,” but he is patient with you, not wishing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

1 John 2:2
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

2 Corinthians 5:14
For Christ’s love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore all died.

hope this helps !!!
 
In Mark 2:17 Jesus said, “"It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners." The sick/spiritually dead can hear and understand Jesus- the sinner who is dead in their sins can understand.

Lord Jesus Christ chooses the spiritually dead to come to Life “you did not choose Me, but I chose you” (John 15:16) and “I chose you out of the world” (John 15:19); therefore, only people whom God chooses are the "sinners" (Mark 2:17) of whom Jesus refers, and this Truth (John 14:6) is certain because Lord Jesus says “he who practices the Truth comes to the Light, that his works may be revealed, that they are having been worked in God” (John 3:21).

Your self-willed (2 Peter 2:9-10) earnable resistible grace interpretation adulterates the Word of God as evidenced through your own writings recorded in your post to which God causes me to respond now:
The Book of civic The Book of Mark
Those who are healthy have no need for a physician, but those who are sick. I came not to call those who have been given My Grace, but those who have been given My Grace.
(civic 2:17)
Those who are healthy have no need for a physician, but those who are sick. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners. (Mark 2:17)
so your heart preaches your sovereignty of man eliminating the Sovereignty of God, and so go your adulterations of the the Holy Scripture, again.

Your belief that everybody is given the Grace of God manifests as your confusion. God is not a God of confusion but of peace (the Apostle Paul, 1 Corinthians 14:33).

According to your preaching, man controls the Love of God, yet Apostolic testimony is "the Love of Christ controls us" Christians (2 Corinthians 5:14) - a blessed Apostolic testimony in the Holy Spirit.

Your testimony is man earns the unearned Love of God because man chooses the Love of God.

This post is an integral continuation with:
  1. post #5,018 - Evaluated Your Conclusion That God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  2. post #5,019 - Your Adulteration of Matthew 22:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  3. post #5,024 - Your Destruction of Jerusalem, Jerusalem in Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  4. post #5,026 - Hebrews 6:4-8 Exposes The Impossibility Of A Christian To Expose The Christ To Public Shame Despite Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  5. post #5,031 - You Declare The Almighty God Is Miserably Weak Per Your Heart's Rendition Of Luke 19:41 For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  6. post #5,036 - You fallen away from God's Grace is not you fallen out of God's Grace in Galatians 5:4-7, so your self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is resistible and earnable fails to be your proof.
  7. post #5,045 - You believe Lord Jesus, who is Love, fails by your quoting of Hebrews 12:14-15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  8. post #5,078 - You believe Almighty God, who is Love, fails by your quoting of 2 Corinthians 6:1 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  9. post #5,105 - Your perverted a warning into a binding judgment in Hebrews 10:29 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  10. post #5,132 - Your heart adulterates Hebrews 12:25's word "warns" into the word "condemns" As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  11. post #5,168 - You Added Free-will into Genesis 6:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  12. post #5,190 - Your Heart Revised History In 2 Chronicles 36:15-16 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  13. post #5,249 - Proverbs 29:1 Fails As A Proof Text For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  14. post #5,327 - your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) is not in Isaiah 30:15 - so Your Fallible Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable is proven anti-truth.
  15. post #5,376 - your Failure Atonement of Christ is akin to your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) as your adulteration of Isaiah 65:2 Shows.
  16. post #5,394 - You confuse God's patience with God's grace per Jeremiah 35:15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  17. post #5,396 - The uncircumcised in heart are the same as people not born of God, so God did not give God's Unearned Grace to those people recorded in Acts 7:51 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  18. post #5,416 - You add "grace" and "free-will" into Acts 13:46 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  19. post #5,347 - Your malinterpretation of Romans 10:21 Is Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  20. post #5,454 - The self-willed people were not recipients of God's Grace as per Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  21. post #5,472 - Evil Adam saw not the Good God in God's fullness (see John 3:3) As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  22. post #5,480 - your heart deletes God's compassion (pity) while adding God's Grace to the environs of the passage of Psalm 78:17;40 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  23. post #5,484 - you demonstrate your failure to see Jesus with your fatefully wrong thoughts regarding Luke 16:27-31 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  24. post #5,486 - King Jesus of the Kingdom of God causes the spiritually dead to hear yet you use John 5:25 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.

Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).

In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE THE SOVEREIGN KING JESUS CHRIST!!!
 
Lord Jesus Christ chooses the spiritually dead to come to Life “you did not choose Me, but I chose you” (John 15:16) and “I chose you out of the world” (John 15:19); therefore, only people whom God chooses are the "sinners" (Mark 2:17) of whom Jesus refers, and this Truth (John 14:6) is certain because Lord Jesus says “he who practices the Truth comes to the Light, that his works may be revealed, that they are having been worked in God” (John 3:21).

Your self-willed (2 Peter 2:9-10) earnable resistible grace interpretation adulterates the Word of God as evidenced through your own writings recorded in your post to which God causes me to respond now:
The Book of civicThe Book of Mark
Those who are healthy have no need for a physician, but those who are sick. I came not to call those who have been given My Grace, but those who have been given My Grace.
(civic 2:17)
Those who are healthy have no need for a physician, but those who are sick. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners. (Mark 2:17)
so your heart preaches your sovereignty of man eliminating the Sovereignty of God, and so go your adulterations of the the Holy Scripture, again.

Your belief that everybody is given the Grace of God manifests as your confusion. God is not a God of confusion but of peace (the Apostle Paul, 1 Corinthians 14:33).

According to your preaching, man controls the Love of God, yet Apostolic testimony is "the Love of Christ controls us" Christians (2 Corinthians 5:14) - a blessed Apostolic testimony in the Holy Spirit.

Your testimony is man earns the unearned Love of God because man chooses the Love of God.

This post is an integral continuation with:
  1. post #5,018 - Evaluated Your Conclusion That God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  2. post #5,019 - Your Adulteration of Matthew 22:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  3. post #5,024 - Your Destruction of Jerusalem, Jerusalem in Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  4. post #5,026 - Hebrews 6:4-8 Exposes The Impossibility Of A Christian To Expose The Christ To Public Shame Despite Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  5. post #5,031 - You Declare The Almighty God Is Miserably Weak Per Your Heart's Rendition Of Luke 19:41 For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  6. post #5,036 - You fallen away from God's Grace is not you fallen out of God's Grace in Galatians 5:4-7, so your self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is resistible and earnable fails to be your proof.
  7. post #5,045 - You believe Lord Jesus, who is Love, fails by your quoting of Hebrews 12:14-15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  8. post #5,078 - You believe Almighty God, who is Love, fails by your quoting of 2 Corinthians 6:1 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  9. post #5,105 - Your perverted a warning into a binding judgment in Hebrews 10:29 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  10. post #5,132 - Your heart adulterates Hebrews 12:25's word "warns" into the word "condemns" As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  11. post #5,168 - You Added Free-will into Genesis 6:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  12. post #5,190 - Your Heart Revised History In 2 Chronicles 36:15-16 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  13. post #5,249 - Proverbs 29:1 Fails As A Proof Text For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  14. post #5,327 - your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) is not in Isaiah 30:15 - so Your Fallible Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable is proven anti-truth.
  15. post #5,376 - your Failure Atonement of Christ is akin to your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) as your adulteration of Isaiah 65:2 Shows.
  16. post #5,394 - You confuse God's patience with God's grace per Jeremiah 35:15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  17. post #5,396 - The uncircumcised in heart are the same as people not born of God, so God did not give God's Unearned Grace to those people recorded in Acts 7:51 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  18. post #5,416 - You add "grace" and "free-will" into Acts 13:46 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  19. post #5,347 - Your malinterpretation of Romans 10:21 Is Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  20. post #5,454 - The self-willed people were not recipients of God's Grace as per Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  21. post #5,472 - Evil Adam saw not the Good God in God's fullness (see John 3:3) As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  22. post #5,480 - your heart deletes God's compassion (pity) while adding God's Grace to the environs of the passage of Psalm 78:17;40 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  23. post #5,484 - you demonstrate your failure to see Jesus with your fatefully wrong thoughts regarding Luke 16:27-31 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  24. post #5,486 - King Jesus of the Kingdom of God causes the spiritually dead to hear yet you use John 5:25 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.

Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).

In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE THE SOVEREIGN KING JESUS CHRIST!!!

Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Fatalism/determinism is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).
 
In Romans 1 we read of the spiritually dead that they can perceive God and that Gods handiwork is self-evident to them and that the things of God are clearly seen by them so that they are without excuse. Romans 1:20- For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.”

Paul did not write that God has been seen by unsaved people. Paul did not write that the unsaved people fully understand God. Paul did not write that the unsaved people were given God's Grace. These facts bring Paul in accord with Lord Jesus saying "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God" (John 3:3).

Your self-willed (2 Peter 2:9-10) earnable resistible grace interpretation adulterates the Word of God as evidenced through your own writings recorded in your post to which God causes me to respond now:
The Book of civicThe Book of Romans
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and the Grace of God upon them and divine nature, the Kingdom of God has been clearly seen, God being fully understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
(civic 1:20)
because that which is known about God is evident within them for God made it evident to them for since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. (Romans 1:19, Romans 1:20)
so your heart preaches your sovereignty of man eliminating the Sovereignty of God, and so go your adulterations of the the Holy Scripture, again.

You omitted Romans 1:19, but when Romans 1:19 is included, then the partial revelation of God through the creation is much more apparent.

Your heart denies the Sovereignty of God as evident via all that has been made and via the Word of God "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God" (John 3:3).

According to your preaching, man controls the Love of God, yet Apostolic testimony is "the Love of Christ controls us" Christians (2 Corinthians 5:14) - a blessed Apostolic testimony in the Holy Spirit.

Your testimony is man earns the unearned Love of God because man chooses the Love of God.

This post is an integral continuation with:
  1. post #5,018 - Evaluated Your Conclusion That God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  2. post #5,019 - Your Adulteration of Matthew 22:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  3. post #5,024 - Your Destruction of Jerusalem, Jerusalem in Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  4. post #5,026 - Hebrews 6:4-8 Exposes The Impossibility Of A Christian To Expose The Christ To Public Shame Despite Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  5. post #5,031 - You Declare The Almighty God Is Miserably Weak Per Your Heart's Rendition Of Luke 19:41 For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  6. post #5,036 - You fallen away from God's Grace is not you fallen out of God's Grace in Galatians 5:4-7, so your self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is resistible and earnable fails to be your proof.
  7. post #5,045 - You believe Lord Jesus, who is Love, fails by your quoting of Hebrews 12:14-15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  8. post #5,078 - You believe Almighty God, who is Love, fails by your quoting of 2 Corinthians 6:1 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  9. post #5,105 - Your perverted a warning into a binding judgment in Hebrews 10:29 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  10. post #5,132 - Your heart adulterates Hebrews 12:25's word "warns" into the word "condemns" As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  11. post #5,168 - You Added Free-will into Genesis 6:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  12. post #5,190 - Your Heart Revised History In 2 Chronicles 36:15-16 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  13. post #5,249 - Proverbs 29:1 Fails As A Proof Text For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  14. post #5,327 - your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) is not in Isaiah 30:15 - so Your Fallible Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable is proven anti-truth.
  15. post #5,376 - your Failure Atonement of Christ is akin to your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) as your adulteration of Isaiah 65:2 Shows.
  16. post #5,394 - You confuse God's patience with God's grace per Jeremiah 35:15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  17. post #5,396 - The uncircumcised in heart are the same as people not born of God, so God did not give God's Unearned Grace to those people recorded in Acts 7:51 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  18. post #5,416 - You add "grace" and "free-will" into Acts 13:46 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  19. post #5,347 - Your malinterpretation of Romans 10:21 Is Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  20. post #5,454 - The self-willed people were not recipients of God's Grace as per Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  21. post #5,472 - Evil Adam saw not the Good God in God's fullness (see John 3:3) As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  22. post #5,480 - your heart deletes God's compassion (pity) while adding God's Grace to the environs of the passage of Psalm 78:17;40 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  23. post #5,484 - you demonstrate your failure to see Jesus with your fatefully wrong thoughts regarding Luke 16:27-31 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  24. post #5,486 - King Jesus of the Kingdom of God causes the spiritually dead to hear yet you use John 5:25 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  25. post #5,490 - you believe the ones Christ did not call got Christ's Grace along with the ones He did call Mark 2:17 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.

Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).

In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE THE SOVEREIGN KING JESUS CHRIST!!!
 
Man has a will but its not free from Gods control,

Reader...

If God is controlling your will, then its not Free.

The Good News?

God does not control anyone's will.

Notice that you decide if you "take up your Cross" or not.

You decide to "present your body a living sacrifice to God".....or not.

You decide if you will "give to the poor" and "Keep Jesus's Commandment".. or not.

See, its JUST LIKE someone said in the OLD TESTAMENT who was not born again........."CHOOSE .. this day, whom you will serve"..

The Choice is yours,.

Welcome to Free Will.

And remember, Hyper Calvinism... "TULIP".. is a Cross Denying Satanic Theology,
You dont want to be found teaching it, and die.
 
Paul did not write that God has been seen by unsaved people. Paul did not write that the unsaved people fully understand God. Paul did not write that the unsaved people were given God's Grace. These facts bring Paul in accord with Lord Jesus saying "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God" (John 3:3).

Your self-willed (2 Peter 2:9-10) earnable resistible grace interpretation adulterates the Word of God as evidenced through your own writings recorded in your post to which God causes me to respond now:
The Book of civicThe Book of Romans
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and the Grace of God upon them and divine nature, the Kingdom of God has been clearly seen, God being fully understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
(civic 1:20)
because that which is known about God is evident within them for God made it evident to them for since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. (Romans 1:19, Romans 1:20)
so your heart preaches your sovereignty of man eliminating the Sovereignty of God, and so go your adulterations of the the Holy Scripture, again.

You omitted Romans 1:19, but when Romans 1:19 is included, then the partial revelation of God through the creation is much more apparent.

Your heart denies the Sovereignty of God as evident via all that has been made and via the Word of God "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God" (John 3:3).

According to your preaching, man controls the Love of God, yet Apostolic testimony is "the Love of Christ controls us" Christians (2 Corinthians 5:14) - a blessed Apostolic testimony in the Holy Spirit.

Your testimony is man earns the unearned Love of God because man chooses the Love of God.

This post is an integral continuation with:
  1. post #5,018 - Evaluated Your Conclusion That God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  2. post #5,019 - Your Adulteration of Matthew 22:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  3. post #5,024 - Your Destruction of Jerusalem, Jerusalem in Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  4. post #5,026 - Hebrews 6:4-8 Exposes The Impossibility Of A Christian To Expose The Christ To Public Shame Despite Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  5. post #5,031 - You Declare The Almighty God Is Miserably Weak Per Your Heart's Rendition Of Luke 19:41 For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  6. post #5,036 - You fallen away from God's Grace is not you fallen out of God's Grace in Galatians 5:4-7, so your self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is resistible and earnable fails to be your proof.
  7. post #5,045 - You believe Lord Jesus, who is Love, fails by your quoting of Hebrews 12:14-15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  8. post #5,078 - You believe Almighty God, who is Love, fails by your quoting of 2 Corinthians 6:1 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  9. post #5,105 - Your perverted a warning into a binding judgment in Hebrews 10:29 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  10. post #5,132 - Your heart adulterates Hebrews 12:25's word "warns" into the word "condemns" As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  11. post #5,168 - You Added Free-will into Genesis 6:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  12. post #5,190 - Your Heart Revised History In 2 Chronicles 36:15-16 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  13. post #5,249 - Proverbs 29:1 Fails As A Proof Text For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  14. post #5,327 - your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) is not in Isaiah 30:15 - so Your Fallible Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable is proven anti-truth.
  15. post #5,376 - your Failure Atonement of Christ is akin to your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) as your adulteration of Isaiah 65:2 Shows.
  16. post #5,394 - You confuse God's patience with God's grace per Jeremiah 35:15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  17. post #5,396 - The uncircumcised in heart are the same as people not born of God, so God did not give God's Unearned Grace to those people recorded in Acts 7:51 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  18. post #5,416 - You add "grace" and "free-will" into Acts 13:46 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  19. post #5,347 - Your malinterpretation of Romans 10:21 Is Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  20. post #5,454 - The self-willed people were not recipients of God's Grace as per Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  21. post #5,472 - Evil Adam saw not the Good God in God's fullness (see John 3:3) As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  22. post #5,480 - your heart deletes God's compassion (pity) while adding God's Grace to the environs of the passage of Psalm 78:17;40 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  23. post #5,484 - you demonstrate your failure to see Jesus with your fatefully wrong thoughts regarding Luke 16:27-31 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  24. post #5,486 - King Jesus of the Kingdom of God causes the spiritually dead to hear yet you use John 5:25 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  25. post #5,490 - you believe the ones Christ did not call got Christ's Grace along with the ones He did call Mark 2:17 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.

Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).

In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE THE SOVEREIGN KING JESUS CHRIST!!!
Romans 1:18-32 is unbelievers- next fallacy. You don't understand the bible at all because you are a fatalist and twist scripture like your father, the same father the pharisees had- John 8:39-44.

Romans 1:18-32
The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
 
@Behold

God does not control anyone's will.

False, even the will of a KingProv 21:1

The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will
The word heart is the word lēḇ:

inner man, mind, will, heart, understanding

So God controls mens heart/will
 
conclusion: You see the doctrine of irresistible grace is unfounded and there are many unproven presuppositions built into Gods Sovereignty and mans condition and free will to choose or reject God. God does not force Himself on anyone for that by definition would be unloving, just as it would be for you or I to force another person to love you.

hope this helps !!!

Love never fails (1 Corinthians 13:8), and God is Love (1 John 4:16), and grace means unearned love, yet you believe in your earnable RESISTIBLE GRACE OF GOD, so you believe that your God's earnable unearnable love fails due to man's overpowering resistance - you covey that you believe "Love fails" (1 civic 13:8).

All 25 of the Bible passages you quoted are absent of your wicked earnable RESISTIBLE GRACE OF GOD from being given to all people everywhere in all time, so you covey that you believe "Love fails" (1 civic 13:8) for everyone in hell because all those in hell had God's Grace when they were on Earth.

None, absolutely none, of the 25 Bible passages you quoted supports your adulterations to the Holy Word of God of your ungodly earnable RESISTIBLE GRACE OF GOD, so you covey that you believe everyone in heaven has earned unearnable Love, yet not all people on Earth have God's Grace (see the previous paragraph).

Your "hope this helps" rings true because you demonstrated the evil of man with your insistence of your earnable RESISTIBLE GRACE OF GOD.

You wrote "just as it would be for you or I to force another person to love you" (no Scripture states you have the ability to force another person to love you), but it is written "God is not man" (Numbers 23:19), so you demote God, and you do not understand Love.

Love, a.k.a. God, saved me from the wrath of God when I didn't know Grace, and this work of Love is loving (John 3:3-21).

According to your preaching, man controls the Love of God, yet Apostolic testimony is "the Love of Christ controls us" Christians (2 Corinthians 5:14) - a blessed Apostolic testimony in the Holy Spirit.

Your testimony is man earns the unearned Love of God because man chooses the Love of God.

This post is an integral continuation with:
  1. post #5,018 - Evaluated Your Conclusion That God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  2. post #5,019 - Your Adulteration of Matthew 22:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  3. post #5,024 - Your Destruction of Jerusalem, Jerusalem in Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  4. post #5,026 - Hebrews 6:4-8 Exposes The Impossibility Of A Christian To Expose The Christ To Public Shame Despite Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  5. post #5,031 - You Declare The Almighty God Is Miserably Weak Per Your Heart's Rendition Of Luke 19:41 For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  6. post #5,036 - You fallen away from God's Grace is not you fallen out of God's Grace in Galatians 5:4-7, so your self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is resistible and earnable fails to be your proof.
  7. post #5,045 - You believe Lord Jesus, who is Love, fails by your quoting of Hebrews 12:14-15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  8. post #5,078 - You believe Almighty God, who is Love, fails by your quoting of 2 Corinthians 6:1 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  9. post #5,105 - Your perverted a warning into a binding judgment in Hebrews 10:29 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  10. post #5,132 - Your heart adulterates Hebrews 12:25's word "warns" into the word "condemns" As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  11. post #5,168 - You Added Free-will into Genesis 6:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  12. post #5,190 - Your Heart Revised History In 2 Chronicles 36:15-16 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  13. post #5,249 - Proverbs 29:1 Fails As A Proof Text For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  14. post #5,327 - your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) is not in Isaiah 30:15 - so Your Fallible Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable is proven anti-truth.
  15. post #5,376 - your Failure Atonement of Christ is akin to your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) as your adulteration of Isaiah 65:2 Shows.
  16. post #5,394 - You confuse God's patience with God's grace per Jeremiah 35:15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  17. post #5,396 - The uncircumcised in heart are the same as people not born of God, so God did not give God's Unearned Grace to those people recorded in Acts 7:51 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  18. post #5,416 - You add "grace" and "free-will" into Acts 13:46 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  19. post #5,347 - Your malinterpretation of Romans 10:21 Is Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  20. post #5,454 - The self-willed people were not recipients of God's Grace as per Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  21. post #5,472 - Evil Adam saw not the Good God in God's fullness (see John 3:3) As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  22. post #5,480 - your heart deletes God's compassion (pity) while adding God's Grace to the environs of the passage of Psalm 78:17;40 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  23. post #5,484 - you demonstrate your failure to see Jesus with your fatefully wrong thoughts regarding Luke 16:27-31 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  24. post #5,486 - King Jesus of the Kingdom of God causes the spiritually dead to hear yet you use John 5:25 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  25. post #5,490 - you believe the ones Christ did not call got Christ's Grace along with the ones He did call Mark 2:17 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  26. post #5,492 - you rewrite Romans 1:20 in order to pit Paul against the Word of God recorded in John 3:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.

Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).

In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE THE SOVEREIGN KING JESUS CHRIST!!!
 
Love never fails (1 Corinthians 13:8), and God is Love (1 John 4:16), and grace means unearned love, yet you believe in your earnable RESISTIBLE GRACE OF GOD, so you believe that your God's earnable unearnable love fails due to man's overpowering resistance - you covey that you believe "Love fails" (1 civic 13:8).

All 25 of the Bible passages you quoted are absent of your wicked earnable RESISTIBLE GRACE OF GOD from being given to all people everywhere in all time, so you covey that you believe "Love fails" (1 civic 13:8) for everyone in hell because all those in hell had God's Grace when they were on Earth.

None, absolutely none, of the 25 Bible passages you quoted supports your adulterations to the Holy Word of God of your ungodly earnable RESISTIBLE GRACE OF GOD, so you covey that you believe everyone in heaven has earned unearnable Love, yet not all people on Earth have God's Grace (see the previous paragraph).

Your "hope this helps" rings true because you demonstrated the evil of man with your insistence of your earnable RESISTIBLE GRACE OF GOD.

You wrote "just as it would be for you or I to force another person to love you" (no Scripture states you have the ability to force another person to love you), but it is written "God is not man" (Numbers 23:19), so you demote God, and you do not understand Love.

Love, a.k.a. God, saved me from the wrath of God when I didn't know Grace, and this work of Love is loving (John 3:3-21).

According to your preaching, man controls the Love of God, yet Apostolic testimony is "the Love of Christ controls us" Christians (2 Corinthians 5:14) - a blessed Apostolic testimony in the Holy Spirit.

Your testimony is man earns the unearned Love of God because man chooses the Love of God.

This post is an integral continuation with:
  1. post #5,018 - Evaluated Your Conclusion That God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  2. post #5,019 - Your Adulteration of Matthew 22:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  3. post #5,024 - Your Destruction of Jerusalem, Jerusalem in Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  4. post #5,026 - Hebrews 6:4-8 Exposes The Impossibility Of A Christian To Expose The Christ To Public Shame Despite Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  5. post #5,031 - You Declare The Almighty God Is Miserably Weak Per Your Heart's Rendition Of Luke 19:41 For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  6. post #5,036 - You fallen away from God's Grace is not you fallen out of God's Grace in Galatians 5:4-7, so your self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is resistible and earnable fails to be your proof.
  7. post #5,045 - You believe Lord Jesus, who is Love, fails by your quoting of Hebrews 12:14-15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  8. post #5,078 - You believe Almighty God, who is Love, fails by your quoting of 2 Corinthians 6:1 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  9. post #5,105 - Your perverted a warning into a binding judgment in Hebrews 10:29 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  10. post #5,132 - Your heart adulterates Hebrews 12:25's word "warns" into the word "condemns" As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  11. post #5,168 - You Added Free-will into Genesis 6:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  12. post #5,190 - Your Heart Revised History In 2 Chronicles 36:15-16 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  13. post #5,249 - Proverbs 29:1 Fails As A Proof Text For Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  14. post #5,327 - your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) is not in Isaiah 30:15 - so Your Fallible Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable is proven anti-truth.
  15. post #5,376 - your Failure Atonement of Christ is akin to your Fallible Grace of God (Resistible Grace) as your adulteration of Isaiah 65:2 Shows.
  16. post #5,394 - You confuse God's patience with God's grace per Jeremiah 35:15 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  17. post #5,396 - The uncircumcised in heart are the same as people not born of God, so God did not give God's Unearned Grace to those people recorded in Acts 7:51 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  18. post #5,416 - You add "grace" and "free-will" into Acts 13:46 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  19. post #5,347 - Your malinterpretation of Romans 10:21 Is Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  20. post #5,454 - The self-willed people were not recipients of God's Grace as per Matthew 23:37 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  21. post #5,472 - Evil Adam saw not the Good God in God's fullness (see John 3:3) As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  22. post #5,480 - your heart deletes God's compassion (pity) while adding God's Grace to the environs of the passage of Psalm 78:17;40 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  23. post #5,484 - you demonstrate your failure to see Jesus with your fatefully wrong thoughts regarding Luke 16:27-31 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  24. post #5,486 - King Jesus of the Kingdom of God causes the spiritually dead to hear yet you use John 5:25 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  25. post #5,490 - you believe the ones Christ did not call got Christ's Grace along with the ones He did call Mark 2:17 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.
  26. post #5,492 - you rewrite Romans 1:20 in order to pit Paul against the Word of God recorded in John 3:3 As Your Self-willed "proof" that God's Grace Is Resistible and Earnable.

Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).

In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE THE SOVEREIGN KING JESUS CHRIST!!!
you do not understand what it means when the bible declares God is love.

determinism, fatalism and calvins predestination is the opposite of love- monergism is not love, synergism is loving. Forced love, forcing ones will, determining ones fate is hate, not love.

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you do not understand what it means when the bible declares God is love.

determinism, fatalism and calvins predestination is the opposite of love- monergism is not love, synergism is loving. Forced love, forcing ones will, determining ones fate is hate, not love.

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By Lord Jesus Christ's Grace, for His glory, I know Love, a.k.a. God, saved me from the wrath of God when I didn't know Grace, and this everlasting Life in Christ delivered to me is loving (John 3:3-21). Praise Lord Jesus for His successful rescue mission!

Love never fails (1 Corinthians 13:8), and God is Love (1 John 4:16), and grace means unearned love, yet you believe in your earnable RESISTIBLE GRACE OF GOD, so you believe that your God's earnable unearnable love fails due to man's overpowering resistance - you covey that you believe "Love fails" (1 civic 13:8) (proof post #5,496).

You call Lord Jesus Christ's successful rescue mission your wicked "hate".

I explained previously that I am a Christian because I believe in Christ Jesus, so you call Savior and God and Lord Jesus Christ your wicked "Fatal".

Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).

In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE GOD WHO IS LOVE!!!
 
@Kermos

Is it Augustine, Luther or Calvin's beliefs that you follow? For it must be one, as not all three agree on predestination with each other.

Augustine held a predestined view quite different then the others.

Augustine’s View of Predestination: St. Augustine, (Synopsis)​


Although Pelagianism, a view that denies original sin and promotes the idea that salvation can be earned, went against Augustine’s views of grace through Christ, it did encourage Augustine to focus his thinking on the doctrine of predestination. In his early writings, Augustine taught predestination based upon God’s foreknowledge. The idea was that God merely chose those human beings whom He foreknew would freely choose to believe in Him.

However, the mature Augustine promoted predestination based upon God’s autonomous and inscrutable choice. This position holds that God chooses to extend His saving grace to some (the elect), but not to all (bypassing the reprobate).1 Thus, God predestines some to eternal life via irresistible though not coercive grace, but leaves others in their sin to be justly condemned through their own choice and deeds.

Augustine’s great and terrible doctrine of so-called “double predestination” was rejected by many in his time as it is by some today. However, Augustine believed that while God’s act of election may be inequitable, it is not unfair. Augustine reasoned that sinners have no claim whatsoever to the grace of God. The choice as to whom God extends His grace is totally within His sovereign discretion and prerogative. Most importantly, Augustine believed his thinking on the subject was simply reflecting the clear teaching of Scripture, especially the writings of the Apostle Paul (Romans 8–9; Ephesians 1).

Luther's View on Predestination:

First, he recognized that because “The Lord knoweth them that are His,” there are different “vessels,” as Paul teaches in Romans 9. Some people are predestined in election as “vessels” for honor and others are passed over in election and become “vessels” for dishonor.

Second, Luther recognized that the Scriptures teach that the sovereign God has predestined who would be what kind of vessel. Man has no “free-will” in this sense. All depends on the sovereignty of God, who, as the potter, “has power” to predestine all that comes to pass.[4]

Third, all that comes to pass depends on the sovereign, predestinating purposes of the Triune God according to His own will. While God does not will evil, He does permit it. The promise of Romans 8:28 is that, because God controls everything, Christians can rest assured that, in all situations, God is accomplishing our greatest good and His greatest glory. This, Luther taught, is the vital and glorious hinge on which all else turns.

Calvins Views on Predestination: PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO NUMBER 10.

Most all know his views as they have withstood the test of time, but a brief commentary should surface as a reminder.

According to John Calvin, predestination is God’s unchangeable decree from before the creation of the world that he would freely save some people (the elect), foreordaining them to eternal life, while the others (the reprobate) would be “barred from access to” salvation and sentenced to “eternal death .” Calvin was careful to distinguish the predestination of individuals from the corporate election of nations such as Israel . He argued that an explanation of predestination is only complete when it includes the election of individuals .

But among the varied comments on the beliefs of Calvin , one interesting popped up. (I could list many links of his ideas but one below really had me take a double take.... So if it is the Calvin end of thing... that you have followed or learned from... don't.


1. Calvin thought that the Church had the power of excommunication: “The Church binds him whom she excommunicates, not by plunging him into eternal ruin and despair, but condemning his life and manners, and admonishing him, that, unless he repent, he is condemned.” (Institutes, IV, 11:2)

2. Calvin believed that there was no salvation outside the Church: “Beyond the pale of the Church no forgiveness of sins, no salvation, can be hoped for, . . .” (IV, 1:4)

3. Calvin thought weekly Holy Communion was the minimum frequency: “The sacrament might be celebrated in the most becoming manner, if it were dispensed to the Church very frequently, at least once a-week.” (IV, 17:43)


4. Calvin believed in the primacy of St. Peter, as leader of the apostles: “There is no senate without a consul, no bench of judges without a president or chancellor, no college without a provost, no company without a master. Thus there would be no absurdity were we to confess that the apostles had conferred such a primacy on Peter.” (IV, 6:8)

5. Calvin accepted the primacy of the Roman Church in early Christian history: “I deny not that the early Christians uniformly give high honour to the Roman Church, and speak of it with reverence. . . . [it] adhered more firmly to the doctrine once delivered, . . .” (IV, 6:16)

6. Calvin believed in the indefectibility of the Church: “I always hold that the truth does not perish in the Church . . .” (IV, 9:13)

7. Calvin utterly detested denominations and sectarianism: “Hence the Church is called Catholic or Universal (August. Ep. 48), for two or three cannot be invented without dividing Christ; and this is impossible. All the elect of God are so joined together in Christ, that as they depend on one head, . . .” (IV, 1:2)


8. Calvin thought that sacraments produce real, beneficial effects: “They, by sealing it to us, sustain, nourish, confirm, and increase our faith.” (IV, 14:7) / “That sacred communion of flesh and blood by which Christ transfuses his life into us, just as if it penetrated our bones and marrow, . . .” (IV, 17:10)

9. Calvin taught that there was such a thing as a holy, sacred place: “God . . . descend to us, that he may be near to us, and yet neither change his place nor affect us by earthly means, but rather, . . . raise us aloft to his own heavenly glory, . . .” (IV, 1:5)

10. Calvin believed that human beings could be distributors or mediators of salvation: “In several passages he [St. Paul] . . . attributes to himself the province of bestowing salvation (1 Cor. 3:9).” (IV, 1:6)

11. Calvin seemingly accepted the notion of baptismal regeneration: “. . . forgiveness, which at our first regeneration we receive by baptism alone . . . we are washed from our sins by the blood of Christ.” (IV, 15:4)
(NOTE: He also believed infant baptism is proper)... due to space not going into that here wither)

12. Calvin approved of bodily mortification as spiritually beneficial: “In like manner, therefore, as persons accused were anciently wont, . . . to humble themselves suppliantly with . . . coarse garments, . . . weeping and fasting, and the like, undoubtedly belong, in an equal degree, to our age, whenever the condition of our affairs so requires.” (IV, 12:17)

13. Calvin believed that there was a profound causal connection between Holy Eucharist and salvation: “Nay, the very flesh in which he resides he makes vivifying to us, that by partaking of it we may feed for immortality. . . . by this food believers are reared to eternal life.” (IV, 17:8) / “. . . the food of eternal life.” (IV, 17:19) / “. . . secures the immortality of our flesh, . . .” (IV, 17:32)

14. Calvin held that contraception was gravely sinful: “It is a horrible thing to pour out seed besides the intercourse of man and woman. Deliberately avoiding the intercourse, so that the seed drops on the ground, is double horrible. For this means that one quenches the hope of his family, and kills the son, which could be expected, before he is born. This wickedness is now as severely as is possible condemned by the Spirit, through Moses, that Onan, as it were, through a violent and untimely birth, tore away the seed of his brother out the womb, and as cruel as shamefully has thrown on the earth. Moreover he thus has, as much as was in his power, tried to destroy a part of the human race. When a woman in some way drives away the seed out the womb, through aids, then this is rightly seen as an unforgivable crime.” (Commentary on Genesis [38:10], translated by John King)

15. Calvin accepted the Catholic and scriptural belief of the perpetual virginity of Mary: “[On Matthew 1:25:] The inference he [Helvidius] drew from it was, that Mary remained a virgin no longer than till her first birth, and that afterwards she had other children by her husband . . . No just and well-grounded inference can be drawn from these words . . . as to what took place after the birth of Christ. He is called ‘first-born’; but it is for the sole purpose of informing us that he was born of a virgin . . . What took place afterwards the historian does not inform us . . . No man will obstinately keep up the argument, except from an extreme fondness for disputation.” (Harmony of Matthew, Mark & Luke, Geneva, 1562, Vol. I, p. 107; from Calvin’s Commentaries, translated by William Pringle, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans, 1949)
 
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