An Article on free will

[praise_yeshua]

I'm going to say one more thing about this topic then I'm going to leave it alone for everyone to "chew on".....

Sometimes it takes time to adjust when you see something you haven't believed your entire life.

There is a logical point to be made there in the context of revelation and the preaching of the apostles. If what Paul said was true in the context of a future earthly kingdom....

Then there would have been no reason for Paul to give his life so that just a few would be saved. If there are promises that Jews have only relative to the "Father", "beloved for the Father's sakes) then the effort becomes unnecessary. It is the same argument relative to replying to Calvinists. It is just different people.

Which is the struggle that takes place for power around us all the time. Power for the narrative. Power for control.

You must also realize that Paul is writing to a group of people that he would soon visit. He is "wetting" their appetite to know the Truth. It is what we do as teachers. We have conversations that produce other conversations. It causes people to seek the Truth.

 

[praise_yeshua]

No

muddying the waters is one continues to slander the other. and makes it appear as if he knows what he is talking about when he does not

You're responding in all lower case responses and you expect me to believe you actually know something about theology? You're repeating others. It is not your own. You're making simple mistakes. You don't even know how to read.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Either do the video or not. This is the last time I'm going to respond to you. You're googling.... You don't know this. You're looking for answers that are not your own.

dude, You have proven you do not have a clue what I believe, Your what I call a bully. No I will not do a video with you. Why should I? Like I said, when you sit there and claim you know things, and insist they are true when they are not. and in doing so slander the other person.. You lose your ability to fight. and to even discuss.

Grow up!

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Then there would have been no reason for Paul to give his life so that just a few would be saved.

see right here? This person proves once again He has no integrity when it comes to listening to what other says. I have said over and over, we do not believe this nonsense. But he keeps pushing it.

The land promise concerning Israel has nothing to do with anyone's salvation. Even those who went into the land many of them did not know God. and they lived in the land under rebellion for year. and they were not saved.

God is a God who keeps his promises.

he says I Mock God. when he mocks God..

 

[praise_yeshua]

The land did not belong to Abraham yet.

It didn't......

Gen 12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
Gen 12:2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Gen 12:7 And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.

Talk about not studying.....

Paul references Gen 12:7

Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

You have not promise without Jesus Christ. NONE. That promise to only ONE SEED......

Jesus Christ.

You dishonor Jesus Christ and you obviously don't care!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[praise_yeshua]

dude, You have proven you do not have a clue what I believe, Your what I call a bully. No I will not do a video with you. Why should I? Like I said, when you sit there and claim you know things, and insist they are true when they are not. and in doing so slander the other person.. You lose your ability to fight. and to even discuss.

Grow up!

Coward. How have I slandered you?

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

You're responding in all lower case responses and you expect me to believe you actually know something about theology? You're repeating others. It is not your own. You're making simple mistakes. You don't even know how to read.

Um no my friend

Your repeating what you are taught. thats why you can not even once show anyone here what i really believe. Because your programed.

Now you are doing what people do when they lose a battle start attacking their integrity (he wont video me, He is writing in all lowercases)

when I was a kid we called people who did this bullies.

I suggest you go home, pray to God and ask for some humility

then ask God to show you the truth of his promises

 

[praise_yeshua]

see right here? This person proves once again He has no integrity when it comes to listening to what other says. I have said over and over, we do not believe this nonsense. But he keeps pushing it.

The land promise concerning Israel has nothing to do with anyone's salvation. Even those who went into the land many of them did not know God. and they lived in the land under rebellion for year. and they were not saved.

God is a God who keeps his promises.

he says I Mock God. when he mocks God..

Show me one time that I said you believed this... .Slanderer.....

I wrote what was mine. I made a argument myself. It is a demands of the conversation.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

It didn't......

Gen 12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
Gen 12:2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Gen 12:7 And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.

Talk about not studying.....

Paul references Gen 12:7

Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

You have not promise without Jesus Christ. NONE. That promise to only ONE SEED......

Jesus Christ.

You dishonor Jesus Christ and you obviously don't care!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yawn

Gen 15: 13
Then He said to Abram: “Know certainly that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and will serve them, and they will afflict them four hundred years. 14 And also the nation whom they serve I will judge; afterward they shall come out with great possessions. 15 Now as for you, you shall go to your fathers in peace; you shall be buried at a good old age. 16 But in the fourth generation they shall return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.”

 

[praise_yeshua]

Um no my friend

Your repeating what you are taught. thats why you can not even once show anyone here what i really believe. Because your programed.

Quote someone else that is saying what I'm saying. Go for it. You can't.

Now you are doing what people do when they lose a battle start attacking their integrity (he wont video me, He is writing in all lowercases)

No. I tied that response to all your communications.

when I was a kid we called people who did this bullies.

I suggest you go home, pray to God and ask for some humility

then ask God to show you the truth of his promises

Bully? How about offending you. That is what I did. I offended you. Which is necessary. After all, you have come this far in this conversation. If I hadn't, you would have already ran away.

Now. Be a good human being and take up this challenge. You need to be humbled. Please try to humble me. Please try.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Yawn

Gen 15: 13
Then He said to Abram: “Know certainly that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and will serve them, and they will afflict them four hundred years. 14 And also the nation whom they serve I will judge; afterward they shall come out with great possessions. 15 Now as for you, you shall go to your fathers in peace; you shall be buried at a good old age. 16 But in the fourth generation they shall return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.”

So you don't believe Paul? Just admit it. You don't believe Jesus Christ fulfills Genesis 12:7.

Once again. You don't care.... You know why you don't care, it is because you don't really want to put Jesus first in everything.

 

[MTMattie]

I have no pride in this. I treat all men equally. You prefer Jews. Now tell me you don't. Tell me the Father does. I can have this argument in my sleep.

Why did Jesus say he was sent for only the lost sheep. (The Jews) ? Before a gentile ever came to mind.

 

[Dizerner]

@Calvinism (and by extension OSAS):

 

[Red Baker]

Is there no moderator on this forum? The last few pages was totally a waste of time and served no profit for anyone's edification.

Eternally-Grateful is blinded by Jewish fables. This thread is about Calvinism and Arminianism~at least it was suppose to be.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

This hatred you have for Gentiles that you establish in Jonah is contrary to God.

See... you just established Eternal life without Jesus Christ. Congratulations. Your faith is revealed....

Your theology is your theology. That theology prefers Jews. You are what you believe......

Coward. How have I slandered you?

the three above quotes of yours. and are lies.. I can find more I am sure.

You better back up right now though.. I do not know who you think you are. but your on the verge of getting reported..

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Show me one time that I said you believed this... .Slanderer.....

I wrote what was mine. I made a argument myself. It is a demands of the conversation.

see my last post.

yes you posted what you believed, and what you believed about me was false.

its slander either way.. Its what the bible calls bearing false witness..

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Quote someone else that is saying what I'm saying. Go for it. You can't.

dude, I have been around chat rooms for years. so many people post what yuo post I have lost count..

No. I tied that response to all your communications.



Bully? How about offending you. That is what I did. I offended you. Which is necessary. After all, you have come this far in this conversation. If I hadn't, you would have already ran away.

Now. Be a good human being and take up this challenge. You need to be humbled. Please try to humble me. Please try.

Yawn,, Your getting old..

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

So you don't believe Paul? Just admit it. You don't believe Jesus Christ fulfills Genesis 12:7.

There you go slandering me again.

Yes I believe this, BUT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GODS COVENANT WITH ISRAEL!!

Once again. You don't care.... You know why you don't care, it is because you don't really want to put Jesus first in everything.

I care that I am being slandered through and through by someone who thinks he knows it all.

Like I said, keep it up. God is my witness

 

[Red Baker]

@Calvinism (and by extension OSAS):

A sick devilish mind would write such a thing and anyone posting this on a Christian forum are a brother to such folks!

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Is there no moderator on this forum? The last few pages was totally a waste of time and served no profit for anyone's edification.

Eternally-Grateful is blinded by Jewish fables. This thread is about Calvinism and Arminianism~at least it was suppose to be.

Jewish fables.

so your going to bear false witness also?

I was responding to something another use brought up..

Should I report you too??