An Article on free will

[civic]

Do you know what a question mark is?

Explain how God gives faith according to your view

Does he just instill it?

Can you deny it or resist it?

Guess not lol

 

[civic]

So it does not say enable, you will just fill in the blanks for us.

Why not? Is the Bible written to you specifically?

Where does the Bible state or imply it’s written to presby02 ?

Quote it

Next

 

[Presby02]

Guess not lol

There's the guy we need the quote from. Find it yet?

 

[TomL]

You were speaking about coming to Christ

John 6:65 (NIV) — 65 He went on to say, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them.”

 

[TomL]

Guess not lol

He keeps dodging an answer

 

[civic]

Nothing in there about being unconditionally chosen for salvation

Yep it’s his imagination

 

[civic]

He keeps dodging an answer

And only asks questions

 

[Presby02]

You were speaking about coming to Christ

John 6:65 (NIV) — 65 He went on to say, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them.”

So.

Grant does not mean enabled. Try as you might.

 

[TomL]

So it does not say enable, you will just fill in the blanks for us.

Why not? Is the Bible written to you specifically?

No answer to the question "how does one give you an action you are required to do"?

 

[Presby02]

And only asks questions

Got my quote yet?

 

[TomL]

So.

Grant does not mean enabled. Try as you might.

The NIV translators refute you

and you just as the NIV stated one needs to be enabled to come

 

[TomL]

And only asks questions

Yep

 

[Presby02]

No answer to the question "how does one give you an action you are required to do"?

Ahh...so faith is a work then?

 

[Presby02]

The NIV translators refute you

and you just as the NIV stated one needs to be enabled to come

Nope. I agree with the NIV, KJV, NASB and so on.

In fact give us the Greek word for grant and show us it means "enable".

 

[TomL]

Ahh...so faith is a work then?

Still dodging

No answer to the question "how does one give you an action you are required to do"?

Just as you dodge answering hte question

How does God give faith?

Does he transfer it or instill it in you?

 

[Presby02]

Still dodging

No answer to the question "how does one give you an action you are required to do"?

Just as you dodge answering hte question

How does God give faith?

Does he transfer it or instill it in you?

Faith is not a work. It does not invlove action. Faith is Spiritual

 

[Presby02]

Still dodging

No answer to the question "how does one give you an action you are required to do"?

Just as you dodge answering hte question

How does God give faith?

Does he transfer it or instill it in you?

I answered your lame attempt at a gotcha question. Faith is not a work. It is not a action. Faith is Spiritual.

Poor effort. Very amateurish

 

[Presby02]

The NIV translators refute you

and you just as the NIV stated one needs to be enabled to come

Refute what? lol I agree with it. Hence the word enabled and not grant.

 

[civic]

There's the guy we need the quote from. Find it yet?

still fishing lol

 

[TomL]

Refute what? lol I agree with it. Hence the word enabled and not grant.

So you agree God enables but does not give faith?