civic
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its true regardless of the religious affiliation one had doctrinally.
I can say that after being a calvinist for over 4 decades..
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I can say that after being a calvinist for over 4 decades..
DavidTree
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this seems like splitting hairs, and in the BIG PICTURE of SALVATION it is, but i KNOW what you are saying
SHALOM
DavidTree
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i firmly believe, in every denomination where the Name Above all names is preached, that the FATHER is SAVING someits true regardless of the religious affiliation one had doctrinally.
I can say that after being a calvinist for over 4 decades..
civic
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Yes it does no ifs ands or buts about it brother.
Selah
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Thank you…indeed! I pray folks will understand the distinction because to me, predestination is something to be extremely hopeful about. God’s grace is wonderful!
DavidTree
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AGREE - AGREE - AGREEYes it does no ifs ands or buts about it brother.
What PRECEDES saving faith???
civic
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Gods grace
DavidTree
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This is Biblical/TRUTH predestination
"I thank my God upon every remembrance of you, always in every prayer of mine making request for you all with joy, for your fellowship in the gospel from the first day until now, being confident of this very thing,
that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ;
Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us,
looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith
Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,”
says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
DavidTree
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i was hoping you would say the preaching/hearing of the word/GospelGods grace
civic
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Yes that is Gods means of grace. Tru dat brother !!!
I say what you just said all of the time here.
DavidTree
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allow this 'little stone' one more question.
The origin of preaching/hearing the Gospel = from man or from God?
civic
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God to man as His vehicle of choice for the preaching, teaching, proclamation of the gospel .
civic
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I have an in depth thread from last year on the gospel below:
Through is the means, it's not because of...You are saved BY FAITH, not because of faith. Faith is a means to a end. You refuse correction and have no idea what your talking about.
civic
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Nope. It's called question begging
Nope. Faith is the means to a end. Hence it's by and through, never because of. Next denial
civic
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wrong as BDAG, Thayer's, STRONGS and Marrian Websters definition all agree with me not you,
All agree its BECAUSE OF.
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next
De Nile
hope this helps !!!
TibiasDad
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You have been shown that dia does indeed mean because of. To deny this is evidence of either blind bias, or a deliberate rejection of indisputable evidence. Either way, your left holding the bag.
Doug
