An Article on free will

Nope. It's called question begging
No called basic reading

John 20:31 (NIV) — 31 But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

It appears you need to work on it
 
Did you see post 4.368 ?

there are no commentaries on those scriptures and they STAND ALONE, meaning nothing added or taken away

Question for @TomL, in post 4,368, where do you place yourself, Before, Middle or After ???
Before, middle or after what?

Define what you are asking
 
Right, not because of...

My Bible Word Study

LEMMA
διά dia through; because of; by; on account of
GPNT:CFD a preposition denoting a TRAJECTOR’s path through or across a LANDMARK
LXGNTLEX through; because of; by
LXLXXLEX through; on account of
BAGD
GELNT
TDNT
VCEDONTW
ESL
Louw-Nida by means of, through, by
MGLNT through; always, continually; by reason of, because of, for the sake of; for this cause, therefore; asunder; abroad
DBL Greek by; through; on behalf of; because of; on account of; along; during; throughout
WSNTDICT
LXGRCANLEX through; because of; by; through; throughout; after; by; during; in; with; because of; via; on account of; for; because; for the sake of; [-]; why; by means of; in the interest of
NASB Dictionaries through; on account of; because of
MCEDONTW through; during; in the course of; by means of; by; with; in a state of; on account of; because of; for the sake of; with a view to; while subject to
VEDONTW
LSJ through
LEH LXX Lexicon thanks to, with the aid of, on the account of; on the account of, because of, by reason of, for; out of, because of; because; wherefore?; therefore, on this account; through, throughout; after; through (the agency of); by; for ever; by a straight path; idly; through the midst of; in a few words; entirely; continually; quickly; by the hand of
IGEL through; in a line; right through; quite through; in succession; not in a line; all through; over; at every; at a distance of; throughout; during; all; long; continually; for; between; after; every; by; by the mouth of; in; in a state of; at; hated; by aid of; by means of; by reason of; sake; because of; for the sake of; therefore; in different directions; asunder; at variance; one with another; to the end; utterly; throughly; out and out; partly
TDNTA
CDWGTHB channel; through; after; always; among; at; to avoid; because of (that); briefly; by; for (cause) … fore; from; in; by occasion of; of; by reason of; for sake; that; thereby; therefore; though; through (-out); to; wherefore; with (-in)
LALS on account of, through; בְּ; in, at, among, upon; with, away from, when; לָכֵן; therefore; in return for; assuredly; עַל־כֵּן; for that reason, therefore; so it happens that; תָּמִיד; lasting, continually; continuously; continual; continuity; עַל 2; on; over; in front of, before; above, more than; on the side of; on account of; with regard to, concerning; according to; against; opposite; to, towards; in addition to; because; מִן; away from, out of; from; since; after; because; without; of; לְ 1; to, towards; until; for; away, from; into; of, about; מַדּוּעַ; on what account?, why?; לְמַ֫עַן; with reference to, on account of; for the sake of; in order to; so that; עֲבוּר; produce; (prep.) because of, for the sake of; (conj.) so that; יָד; forearm, hand; side, bank, part, possession, power, monument, penis; holders; unit; כִּי 2; yea; verily, indeed; surely; but, thus, except; because; when, if, in case; although, even though; as; פָּנֶה; front; head, face; former times, earlier period; בַּ֫עַד 1; behind; through, out of; round about; for the benefit of, for; יַ֫עַן; because of; because; אֵת 2; with; together with; with the help of; by the side of, besides; out of, from; גָּלָל 2; because of; אֶל; towards; in, into; up, against, in addition to; אֲשֶׁר; which, that, so that, if; תַּ֫חַת 1; (what is located) underneath, below; in place of, instead of; אֵת 1; direct object; עַד 3; as far as; until, just before, during; up to; as long as; חִנָּם; without (giving or taking) compensation; in vain; without cause, undeservedly; עַל; over; upon, against, towards, concerning; from; of; out of; down, away from; since; different from; קֳדָם; before; in the sight of



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So it's not universal then. Millions have never or will never hear the gospel.
PG is not about making everyone hear the gospel; it is about God setting the stage that all men might be saved! The gospel through the Holy Spirit, can reach anyone in any situation. All men are capable of being saved if they believe.


Doug
 
PG is not about making everyone hear the gospel; it is about God setting the stage that all men might be saved! The gospel through the Holy Spirit, can reach anyone in any situation. All men are capable of being saved if they believe.


Doug
What's the point of prevenient grace for those God knows will never hear the gospel? He could ensure everyone does but He doesn't.
 
PG is not about making everyone hear the gospel; it is about God setting the stage that all men might be saved! The gospel through the Holy Spirit, can reach anyone in any situation. All men are capable of being saved if they believe.


Doug
And capable of believing as scripture shows

John 1:6–7 (KJV 1900) — 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

John 5:45–47 (KJV 1900) — 45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. 46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

John 4:39 (KJV 1900) — 39 And many of the Samaritans of that city believed on him for the saying of the woman, which testified, He told me all that ever I did.

John 17:20 (KJV 1900) — 20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

John 20:31 (KJV 1900) — 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Romans 10:10–17 (KJV 1900) — 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

John 12:40 (KJV 1900) — 40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

God blinded men to prevent their belief. Why would god blind someone who had no ability to see?

Luke notes had men not grown hardened they could have believed

Acts 28:27 (KJV 1900) — 27 For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

unregenerate men are shown to receive the word with joy

Luke 8:13 (KJV 1900) — 13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

The adversary steals the word away so men will not believe

Luke 8:11–12 (KJV 1900) — 11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. 12 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.
 
My Bible Word Study

LEMMA
διά dia through; because of; by; on account of
GPNT:CFD a preposition denoting a TRAJECTOR’s path through or across a LANDMARK
LXGNTLEX through; because of; by
LXLXXLEX through; on account of
BAGD
GELNT
TDNT
VCEDONTW
ESL
Louw-Nida by means of, through, by
MGLNT through; always, continually; by reason of, because of, for the sake of; for this cause, therefore; asunder; abroad
DBL Greek by; through; on behalf of; because of; on account of; along; during; throughout
WSNTDICT
LXGRCANLEX through; because of; by; through; throughout; after; by; during; in; with; because of; via; on account of; for; because; for the sake of; [-]; why; by means of; in the interest of
NASB Dictionaries through; on account of; because of
MCEDONTW through; during; in the course of; by means of; by; with; in a state of; on account of; because of; for the sake of; with a view to; while subject to
VEDONTW
LSJ through
LEH LXX Lexicon thanks to, with the aid of, on the account of; on the account of, because of, by reason of, for; out of, because of; because; wherefore?; therefore, on this account; through, throughout; after; through (the agency of); by; for ever; by a straight path; idly; through the midst of; in a few words; entirely; continually; quickly; by the hand of
IGEL through; in a line; right through; quite through; in succession; not in a line; all through; over; at every; at a distance of; throughout; during; all; long; continually; for; between; after; every; by; by the mouth of; in; in a state of; at; hated; by aid of; by means of; by reason of; sake; because of; for the sake of; therefore; in different directions; asunder; at variance; one with another; to the end; utterly; throughly; out and out; partly
TDNTA
CDWGTHB channel; through; after; always; among; at; to avoid; because of (that); briefly; by; for (cause) … fore; from; in; by occasion of; of; by reason of; for sake; that; thereby; therefore; though; through (-out); to; wherefore; with (-in)
LALS on account of, through; בְּ; in, at, among, upon; with, away from, when; לָכֵן; therefore; in return for; assuredly; עַל־כֵּן; for that reason, therefore; so it happens that; תָּמִיד; lasting, continually; continuously; continual; continuity; עַל 2; on; over; in front of, before; above, more than; on the side of; on account of; with regard to, concerning; according to; against; opposite; to, towards; in addition to; because; מִן; away from, out of; from; since; after; because; without; of; לְ 1; to, towards; until; for; away, from; into; of, about; מַדּוּעַ; on what account?, why?; לְמַ֫עַן; with reference to, on account of; for the sake of; in order to; so that; עֲבוּר; produce; (prep.) because of, for the sake of; (conj.) so that; יָד; forearm, hand; side, bank, part, possession, power, monument, penis; holders; unit; כִּי 2; yea; verily, indeed; surely; but, thus, except; because; when, if, in case; although, even though; as; פָּנֶה; front; head, face; former times, earlier period; בַּ֫עַד 1; behind; through, out of; round about; for the benefit of, for; יַ֫עַן; because of; because; אֵת 2; with; together with; with the help of; by the side of, besides; out of, from; גָּלָל 2; because of; אֶל; towards; in, into; up, against, in addition to; אֲשֶׁר; which, that, so that, if; תַּ֫חַת 1; (what is located) underneath, below; in place of, instead of; אֵת 1; direct object; עַד 3; as far as; until, just before, during; up to; as long as; חִנָּם; without (giving or taking) compensation; in vain; without cause, undeservedly; עַל; over; upon, against, towards, concerning; from; of; out of; down, away from; since; different from; קֳדָם; before; in the sight of



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"by means of", it's by and through, never because of.
 
Before, middle or after what?

Define what you are asking
In each of the three scripture verses from Post 4,368
a.) Philippians 1:6
b.) Hebrews 12:2
c.) Revelation 1:8

For each passage a, b, c = Where would you place yourself? Before, After or Middle
 
"by means of", it's by and through, never because of.
You have serious reading difficulty

LEMMA
διά dia through; because of; by; on account of
GPNT:CFD a preposition denoting a TRAJECTOR’s path through or across a LANDMARK
LXGNTLEX through; because of; by
LXLXXLEX through; on account of
BAGD
GELNT
TDNT
VCEDONTW
ESL
Louw-Nida by means of, through, by
MGLNT through; always, continually; by reason of, because of, for the sake of; for this cause, therefore; asunder; abroad
DBL Greek by; through; on behalf of; because of; on account of; along; during; throughout
WSNTDICT
LXGRCANLEX through; because of; by; through; throughout; after; by; during; in; with; because of; via; on account of; for; because; for the sake of; [-]; why; by means of; in the interest of
NASB Dictionaries through; on account of; because of
MCEDONTW through; during; in the course of; by means of; by; with; in a state of; on account of; because of; for the sake of; with a view to; while subject to
VEDONTW
LSJ through
LEH LXX Lexicon thanks to, with the aid of, on the account of; on the account of, because of, by reason of, for; out of, because of; because; wherefore?; therefore, on this account; through, throughout; after; through (the agency of); by; for ever; by a straight path; idly; through the midst of; in a few words; entirely; continually; quickly; by the hand of
IGEL through; in a line; right through; quite through; in succession; not in a line; all through; over; at every; at a distance of; throughout; during; all; long; continually; for; between; after; every; by; by the mouth of; in; in a state of; at; hated; by aid of; by means of; by reason of; sake; because of; for the sake of; therefore; in different directions; asunder; at variance; one with another; to the end; utterly; throughly; out and out; partly
TDNTA
CDWGTHB channel; through; after; always; among; at; to avoid; because of (that); briefly; by; for (cause) … fore; from; in; by occasion of; of; by reason of; for sake; that; thereby; therefore; though; through (-out); to; wherefore; with (-in)
LALS on account of, through; בְּ; in, at, among, upon; with, away from, when; לָכֵן; therefore; in return for; assuredly; עַל־כֵּן; for that reason, therefore; so it happens that; תָּמִיד; lasting, continually; continuously; continual; continuity; עַל 2; on; over; in front of, before; above, more than; on the side of; on account of; with regard to, concerning; according to; against; opposite; to, towards; in addition to; because; מִן; away from, out of; from; since; after; because; without; of; לְ 1; to, towards; until; for; away, from; into; of, about; מַדּוּעַ; on what account?, why?; לְמַ֫עַן; with reference to, on account of; for the sake of; in order to; so that; עֲבוּר; produce; (prep.) because of, for the sake of; (conj.) so that; יָד; forearm, hand; side, bank, part, possession, power, monument, penis; holders; unit; כִּי 2; yea; verily, indeed; surely; but, thus, except; because; when, if, in case; although, even though; as; פָּנֶה; front; head, face; former times, earlier period; בַּ֫עַד 1; behind; through, out of; round about; for the benefit of, for; יַ֫עַן; because of; because; אֵת 2; with; together with; with the help of; by the side of, besides; out of, from; גָּלָל 2; because of; אֶל; towards; in, into; up, against, in addition to; אֲשֶׁר; which, that, so that, if; תַּ֫חַת 1; (what is located) underneath, below; in place of, instead of; אֵת 1; direct object; עַד 3; as far as; until, just before, during; up to; as long as; חִנָּם; without (giving or taking) compensation; in vain; without cause, undeservedly; עַל; over; upon, against, towards, concerning; from; of; out of; down, away from; since; different from; קֳדָם; before; in the sight of

again you need to work on it
 
You have serious reading difficulty

LEMMA
διά dia through; because of; by; on account of
GPNT:CFD a preposition denoting a TRAJECTOR’s path through or across a LANDMARK
LXGNTLEX through; because of; by
LXLXXLEX through; on account of
BAGD
GELNT
TDNT
VCEDONTW
ESL
Louw-Nida by means of, through, by
MGLNT through; always, continually; by reason of, because of, for the sake of; for this cause, therefore; asunder; abroad
DBL Greek by; through; on behalf of; because of; on account of; along; during; throughout
WSNTDICT
LXGRCANLEX through; because of; by; through; throughout; after; by; during; in; with; because of; via; on account of; for; because; for the sake of; [-]; why; by means of; in the interest of
NASB Dictionaries through; on account of; because of
MCEDONTW through; during; in the course of; by means of; by; with; in a state of; on account of; because of; for the sake of; with a view to; while subject to
VEDONTW
LSJ through
LEH LXX Lexicon thanks to, with the aid of, on the account of; on the account of, because of, by reason of, for; out of, because of; because; wherefore?; therefore, on this account; through, throughout; after; through (the agency of); by; for ever; by a straight path; idly; through the midst of; in a few words; entirely; continually; quickly; by the hand of
IGEL through; in a line; right through; quite through; in succession; not in a line; all through; over; at every; at a distance of; throughout; during; all; long; continually; for; between; after; every; by; by the mouth of; in; in a state of; at; hated; by aid of; by means of; by reason of; sake; because of; for the sake of; therefore; in different directions; asunder; at variance; one with another; to the end; utterly; throughly; out and out; partly
TDNTA
CDWGTHB channel; through; after; always; among; at; to avoid; because of (that); briefly; by; for (cause) … fore; from; in; by occasion of; of; by reason of; for sake; that; thereby; therefore; though; through (-out); to; wherefore; with (-in)
LALS on account of, through; בְּ; in, at, among, upon; with, away from, when; לָכֵן; therefore; in return for; assuredly; עַל־כֵּן; for that reason, therefore; so it happens that; תָּמִיד; lasting, continually; continuously; continual; continuity; עַל 2; on; over; in front of, before; above, more than; on the side of; on account of; with regard to, concerning; according to; against; opposite; to, towards; in addition to; because; מִן; away from, out of; from; since; after; because; without; of; לְ 1; to, towards; until; for; away, from; into; of, about; מַדּוּעַ; on what account?, why?; לְמַ֫עַן; with reference to, on account of; for the sake of; in order to; so that; עֲבוּר; produce; (prep.) because of, for the sake of; (conj.) so that; יָד; forearm, hand; side, bank, part, possession, power, monument, penis; holders; unit; כִּי 2; yea; verily, indeed; surely; but, thus, except; because; when, if, in case; although, even though; as; פָּנֶה; front; head, face; former times, earlier period; בַּ֫עַד 1; behind; through, out of; round about; for the benefit of, for; יַ֫עַן; because of; because; אֵת 2; with; together with; with the help of; by the side of, besides; out of, from; גָּלָל 2; because of; אֶל; towards; in, into; up, against, in addition to; אֲשֶׁר; which, that, so that, if; תַּ֫חַת 1; (what is located) underneath, below; in place of, instead of; אֵת 1; direct object; עַד 3; as far as; until, just before, during; up to; as long as; חִנָּם; without (giving or taking) compensation; in vain; without cause, undeservedly; עַל; over; upon, against, towards, concerning; from; of; out of; down, away from; since; different from; קֳדָם; before; in the sight of

again you need to work on it
Therefore: by, through, because, in relation to, by means of, are the SAME and we are trying to split hairs with a dull axe
 
Therefore: by, through, because, in relation to, by means of, are the SAME and we are trying to split hairs with a dull axe


They wish to take the credit for their faith. Paul says in all things give thanks. Except for your faith apparently. He also asks, "what do you have you have not recieved"? The Pelagians would say my faith of course.
 
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