An Article on free will

[TomL]

The Book of Free-willians		The Book of Titus
But when the kindness and the love of mankind which includes God-displeasing sin-immersed self-willed under the wrath of God people like Nancy of God our Savior appeared (civic 3:4)		But when the kindness and the love of mankind of God our Savior appeared (Titus 3:4)

And so go your adulterations of the precious Holy Scripture again and again and again.

But when the kindness and the love of mankind of God our Savior appeared
(Titus 3:4)


hello mankind

not the unconditionally chosen

mankind - world

John 3:16 (KJV 1900) — 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


God love was for the world - mankind

Neither are a synonyms for the unconditionally elect as your theology teaches


5. the world as mankind (Sib. Or. 1, 189)—a. gener. οὐαί τῷ κ. ἀπὸ τῶν σκανδάλων woe to mankind because of vexations Mt 18:7; τὸ φῶς τοῦ κ. the light for mankind 5:14; cf. J 8:12; 9:5. ὁ σωτὴρ τοῦ κ. 4:42; 1J 4:14 (this designation is found in the inscrs., esp. oft. of Hadrian [WWeber, Untersuchungen z. Geschichte des Kaisers Hadrianus ’07, 225; 226; 229]).—J 1:29; 3:17b; 17:6.—κρίνειν τὸν κ. (Sib. Or. 4, 184) Ro 3:6; B 4:12; cf. Ro 3:19. ἡ ἁμαρτία εἰς τὸν κ. εἰσῆλθεν 5:12; likew. θάνατος εἰσῆλθεν εἰς τὸν κ. 1 Cl 3:4 (Wsd 2:24; 14:14). Cf. Ro 5:13; 1 Cor 1:27f. περικαθάρματα τοῦ κ. the refuse of mankind 4:13.—6:2a, b (Sallust. 21 p. 36, 13 the souls of the virtuous, together w. the gods, will rule the whole κόσμος); 2 Cor 1:12; 5:19; Js 2:5; 1J 2:2; 4:1, 3. ἀρχαῖος κόσμος the men of the ancient world 2 Pt 2:5a; cf. b; 3:6.—ὅλος ὁ κ. all the world, everybody Ac 2:47 D. Likew. ὁ κόσμος (cf. Philo, De Prov. in Euseb., Pr. Ev. 8, 14, 58) ὁ κ. ὀπίσω αὐτοῦ ἀπῆλθεν J 12:19. ἐγὼ παρρησίᾳ λελάληκα τῷ κ. 18:20; cf. 7:4; 14:22.
b. of all mankind, but especially of believers, as the object of God’s love J 3:16, 17c; 6:33, 51; 12:47.


William Arndt et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature : A Translation and Adaption of the Fourth Revised and Augmented Edition of Walter Bauer’s Griechisch-Deutsches Worterbuch Zu Den Schrift En Des Neuen Testaments Und Der Ubrigen Urchristlichen Literatur (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1979), 446.

 

[TomL]

The word of civic		The Word of God
For God so loved the world like Judas Iscariot and people like Tom and people like Nancy of the world who are eternally under the wrath of God that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever loving the darkness hating the Light by self-will choosing to believe in him shall not perish but have eternal life. (civic 3:16 and TomL 3:16)		For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. (John 3:16)

yet another lie misrepresenting the fact no one hold those under the eternal wrath of God are saved

That you resort to such deception shows you have no real argument

 

[TomL]

The Second Book of Free-willians		The Second Book of Peter
The Lord breaks his promise because he is patient with you people like Nancy of the world who will never be a part of the Body of Christ, not wishing that any should perish but people like Nancy perish without ever coming to repentance. (2 civicTomL 3:9)		The Lord does not delay his promise, as some regard “delay,” but he is patient with you, not wishing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. (2 Peter 3:9)

And so go your adulterations of the precious Holy Scripture again and again and again.

As no one has claimed God breaks his promise so you are guilty once again of bearing false witness

Seeing as you so misrepresent scripture it is not surprising you misrepresent the writings of others

BTW you have no authority to state who will never be a part of the body of Christ

You are simply speaking out of your theology of unconditional election and reprobation

begging the issue assuming your theology

 

[civic]

As no one has claimed God breaks his promise so you are guilty once again of bearing false witness

Seeing as you so misrepresent scripture it is not surprising you misrepresent the writings of others

BTW you have no authority to state who will never be a part of the body of Christ

You are simply speaking out of your theology of unconditional election and reprobation

begging the issue assuming your theology

yes the violation and warning of the curse that Moss, Solomon and John wanted us about with those who add and take away from Gods word.

 

[TomL]

Notice the phrase "the whole world" occurs twice in the same book with the same author, the First Book of John inspired by the glorious Holy Spirit.

You brought up 1 John 2:2 which shall be examined in a moment, and the other location is "We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one" (1 John 5:19).

The Apostle John further wrote "you have overcome the evil one" (1 John 2:13), and John uses the "you" to refer to Christians exclusively; therefore, no Christian lies in the evil one, so current Christians are excluded from "the whole world" in 1 John 5:19.

LOL you testify against your own position

John 3:16 (KJV 1900) — 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 3:17 (KJV 1900) — 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

John 12:47 (KJV 1900) — 47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

 

[TomL]

yes the violation and warning of the curse that Moss, Solomon and John wanted us about with those who add and take away from Gods word.

Yep he alters the word of God as he does of others

 

[TomL]

And so go your revilings against the precious Holy Word of God "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent" (John 6:29) as you illegally redefine believe as a work of man instead of the work of God again and again and again.

There you go again calling Christ a liar

John 6:27 (KJV 1900) — 27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.


We bible believers prefer to believe the words of Christ rather than you bible denying, Christ denying theology

 

[civic]

There you go again calling Christ a liar

John 6:27 (KJV 1900) — 27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.


We bible believers prefer to believe the words of Christ rather than you bible denying, Christ denying theology

yes it makes Jesus a liar as Prov 30:6 declares.

 

[TomL]

The First Book of Free-willians		The First Book of John
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of people like Nancy of the whole world who lie in the power of the evil one, even until they stop breathing, Christ's atoning sacrifice fails for ones such as people like Nancy. (1 TomLcivic 2:2)		He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. (1 John 2:2)

Um you already admitted there were no Christian under the term whole world

Hello

You are refuting your own position with your comment and the posting of this verse

and are reduced to changing the meaning of the term to meet the need of your theology

first whole world means no Christians

then whole world means Christians only

Its amazing what the desperate need to protect a theology will cause some to resort to


LOL

 

[TomL]

yes it makes Jesus a liar as Prov 30:6 declares.

It's a desparate need to protect an unbiblical theology which drives smome to repudiate even the very words of Christ

 

[civic]

It's a desparate need to protect an unbiblical theology which drives smome to repudiate even the very words of Christ

ditto

 

[Kermos]

Lets see

Luke 22:14–22 (KJV 1900) — 14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him. 15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer: 16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God. 17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves: 18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come. 19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. 20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you. 21 But, behold, the hand of him that betrayeth me is with me on the table. 22 And truly the Son of man goeth, as it was determined: but woe unto that man by whom he is betrayed!

Seems Christ was given for and shed his blood even for Judas

apparently you are not a believer of scripture

Luke 22:14–22 is not Titus 2:11 which is the focal point of the passage to which you replied, so you are trying to evade the point. You fail to escape the fact that people like unbeliever Nancy are included in the group of people that Christ provides salvation to all men in Titus 2:11 according to your fraudulent Free-willian Philosophy which includes Christ's failure atonement because people like Nancy have salvation but they goes hell.

The Word of God dispels your deception about Judas in Luke 22:14-22 by way of the first word in Luke 22:21, the word "But" which Lord Jesus uses to indicate an exception thus Jesus excluded Judas Iscariot from being among the people for whom Christ makes atonement.

Let's review your error fighting against the Word of God. Your adulteration of the Holy Scripture is evident in your quotations augmented with your heart's thoughts in your posts:

The Book of Free-willians		The Book of Titus
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, even people like Nancy of the world who are eternally under the wrath of God but they enjoy salvation but they suffer punishment but they enjoy salvation-punishment (TomL 2:11)		For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, (Titus 2:11)

And so go your adulterations of the precious Holy Scripture again and again.

Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).

In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in the affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE THE SALVATION OF MAN!!!

 

[TomL]

Luke 22:14–22 is not Titus 2:11 which is the focal point of the passage to which you replied, so you are trying to evade the point. You fail to escape the fact that people like unbeliever Nancy are included in the group of people that Christ provides salvation to all men in Titus 2:11 according to your fraudulent Free-willian Philosophy which includes Christ's failure atonement because people like Nancy have salvation but they goes hell.

The Word of God dispels your deception about Judas in Luke 22:14-22 by way of the first word in Luke 22:21, the word "But" which Lord Jesus uses to indicate an exception thus Jesus excluded Judas Iscariot from being among the people for whom Christ makes atonement.

Sorry that that is totally false

Luke 22:14–21 (KJV 1900) — 14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him. 15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer: 16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God. 17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves: 18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come. 19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. 20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you. 21 But, behold, the hand of him that betrayeth me is with me on the table.

The but does not exclude Judas from receiving the bread or the cup and only notes Judas would betray him

You are twisting scripture again

 

[civic]

Sorry that that is totally false

Luke 22:14–21 (KJV 1900) — 14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him. 15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer: 16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God. 17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves: 18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come. 19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. 20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you. 21 But, behold, the hand of him that betrayeth me is with me on the table.

The but does not exclude Judas from receiving the bread or the cup and only notes Judas would betray him

You are twisting scripture again

ditto twisting it into a fatalistic pretzel.

 

[TomL]

ditto twisting it into a fatalistic pretzel.

He seems bent on distorting the word of God

 

[Kermos]

Sorry that that is totally false

Luke 22:14–21 (KJV 1900) — 14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him. 15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer: 16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God. 17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves: 18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come. 19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. 20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you. 21 But, behold, the hand of him that betrayeth me is with me on the table.

The but does not exclude Judas from receiving the bread or the cup and only notes Judas would betray him

You are twisting scripture again

ditto twisting it into a fatalistic pretzel.

The word "but" in Luke 22:21 is the Greek word πλήν (Strong's 4133 -plén) - yet, except - biblehub.com) which literally means "except" is the valid translation and concept!

You deducted Luke 22:22 from your quotation thus concealing the Truth (John 14:6)! You fabricate your own false language, and your actions proved your inability to righteously perceive King Jesus of the Kingdom of God who says "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God" (John 3:3). Here is the passage:

This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood, but behold, the hand of the one betraying Me is with Mine on the table for indeed, the Son of Man is going as it has been determined; but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed!
(Luke 22:20-22)
​

The Word of God dispels your deception about Judas in Luke 22:14-22 by way of the first word in Luke 22:21, the word "But" which Lord Jesus uses to indicate an exception thus Jesus excluded Judas Iscariot from being among the people for whom Christ makes atonement.

Luke 22:14–22 is not Titus 2:11 which is the focal point of the passage to which you replied, so you are trying to evade the point. You fail to escape the fact that people like unbeliever Nancy are included in the group of people that Christ provides salvation to all men in Titus 2:11 according to your fraudulent Free-willian Philosophy which includes Christ's failure atonement because people like Nancy have salvation but they goes hell.

Let's review your error fighting against the Word of God. Your adulteration of the Holy Scripture is evident in your quotations augmented with your heart's thoughts in your posts:

The Book of Free-willians		The Book of Titus
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, even people like Nancy of the world who are eternally under the wrath of God but they enjoy salvation but they suffer punishment but they enjoy salvation-punishment (TomL 2:11)		For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, (Titus 2:11)

And so go your adulterations of the precious Holy Scripture again and again.

Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).

In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in the affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE THE SALVATION OF MAN!!!

 

[TomL]

The word "but" in Luke 22:21 is the Greek word πλήν (Strong's 4133 -plén) - yet, except - biblehub.com) which literally means "except" is the valid translation and concept!

sorry, that is false and no translation comes anywhere close to saying the bread and the cup were for all but Judas

You are twisting scripture as has been your want

Luke 22:14–19 (KJV 1900) — 14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him. 15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer: 16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God. 17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves: 18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come. 19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

Divide it among yourselves he gave it to them - the 12

Luke 22:14–20 (ESV) — 14 And when the hour came, he reclined at table, and the apostles with him. 15 And he said to them, “I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer. 16 For I tell you I will not eat it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.” 17 And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he said, “Take this, and divide it among yourselves. 18 For I tell you that from now on I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.” 19 And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” 20 And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.

hello after they had eaten - the 12

Luke 22:14–20 (LSB) — 14 And when the hour had come, He reclined at the table, and the apostles with Him. 15 And He said to them, “I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer; 16 for I say to you, I shall never again eat it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.” 17 And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, “Take this and share it among yourselves. 18 “For I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine from now on until the kingdom of God comes.” 19 And when He had taken some bread and given thanks, He broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of Me.” 20 And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood.

Luke 22:14–20 (NIV) — 14 When the hour came, Jesus and his apostles reclined at the table. 15 And he said to them, “I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer. 16 For I tell you, I will not eat it again until it finds fulfillment in the kingdom of God.” 17 After taking the cup, he gave thanks and said, “Take this and divide it among you. 18 For I tell you I will not drink again from the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.” 19 And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.” 20 In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.

Divide it among you - the 12

You have plainly twisted the scripture, not being willing to abide by what it does state

 

[civic]

sorry, that is false and no translation comes anywhere close to saying the bread and the cup were for all but Judas

You are twisting scripture as has been your want

Luke 22:14–19 (KJV 1900) — 14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him. 15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer: 16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God. 17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves: 18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come. 19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

Divide it among yourselves he gave it to them - the 12

Luke 22:14–20 (ESV) — 14 And when the hour came, he reclined at table, and the apostles with him. 15 And he said to them, “I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer. 16 For I tell you I will not eat it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.” 17 And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he said, “Take this, and divide it among yourselves. 18 For I tell you that from now on I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.” 19 And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” 20 And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.

hello after they had eaten - the 12

Luke 22:14–20 (LSB) — 14 And when the hour had come, He reclined at the table, and the apostles with Him. 15 And He said to them, “I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer; 16 for I say to you, I shall never again eat it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.” 17 And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, “Take this and share it among yourselves. 18 “For I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine from now on until the kingdom of God comes.” 19 And when He had taken some bread and given thanks, He broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of Me.” 20 And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood.

Luke 22:14–20 (NIV) — 14 When the hour came, Jesus and his apostles reclined at the table. 15 And he said to them, “I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer. 16 For I tell you, I will not eat it again until it finds fulfillment in the kingdom of God.” 17 After taking the cup, he gave thanks and said, “Take this and divide it among you. 18 For I tell you I will not drink again from the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.” 19 And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.” 20 In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.

Divide it among you - the 12

You have plainly twisted the scripture, not being willing to abide by what it does state

Yes Judas partook just like all the other disciples

 

[Kermos]

sorry, that is false and no translation comes anywhere close to saying the bread and the cup were for all but Judas

You are twisting scripture as has been your want

Luke 22:14–19 (KJV 1900) — 14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him. 15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer: 16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God. 17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves: 18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come. 19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

Divide it among yourselves he gave it to them - the 12

Luke 22:14–20 (ESV) — 14 And when the hour came, he reclined at table, and the apostles with him. 15 And he said to them, “I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer. 16 For I tell you I will not eat it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.” 17 And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he said, “Take this, and divide it among yourselves. 18 For I tell you that from now on I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.” 19 And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” 20 And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.

hello after they had eaten - the 12

Luke 22:14–20 (LSB) — 14 And when the hour had come, He reclined at the table, and the apostles with Him. 15 And He said to them, “I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer; 16 for I say to you, I shall never again eat it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.” 17 And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, “Take this and share it among yourselves. 18 “For I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine from now on until the kingdom of God comes.” 19 And when He had taken some bread and given thanks, He broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of Me.” 20 And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood.

Luke 22:14–20 (NIV) — 14 When the hour came, Jesus and his apostles reclined at the table. 15 And he said to them, “I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer. 16 For I tell you, I will not eat it again until it finds fulfillment in the kingdom of God.” 17 After taking the cup, he gave thanks and said, “Take this and divide it among you. 18 For I tell you I will not drink again from the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.” 19 And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.” 20 In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.

Divide it among you - the 12

You have plainly twisted the scripture, not being willing to abide by what it does state

Yes Judas partook just like all the other disciples

You two just love to believe things that Holy Scripture does not state such as "Yes Judas partook just like all the other disciples" regarding Luke 22:14-22; in fact, no writing in Luke 22:14-22 indicates Judas partook, so you add to Holy Scripture AGAIN. No Word of God includes Judas Iscariot in Christ's Salvation, especially when he is excluded with Lord Jesus Christ's exception with the word "but" in Luke 22:21.

The word "but" in Luke 22:21 is the Greek word πλήν (Strong's 4133 -plén) - yet, except - biblehub.com) which literally means "except" is the valid translation and concept!

You deducted Luke 22:21-22 from your quotation thus concealing the Truth (John 14:6)! You fabricate your own false language, and your actions proved your inability to righteously perceive King Jesus of the Kingdom of God who says "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God" (John 3:3). Here is the passage:

This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood, but behold, the hand of the one betraying Me is with Mine on the table for indeed, the Son of Man is going as it has been determined; but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed!
(Luke 22:20-22)
​

The Word of God dispels your deception about Judas in Luke 22:14-22 by way of the first word in Luke 22:21, the word "But" which Lord Jesus uses to indicate an exception thus Jesus excluded Judas Iscariot from being among the people for whom Christ makes atonement.

Luke 22:14–22 is not Titus 2:11 which is the focal point of the passage to which you replied, so you are trying to evade the point. You fail to escape the fact that people like unbeliever Nancy are included in the group of people that Christ provides salvation to all men in Titus 2:11 according to your fraudulent Free-willian Philosophy which includes Christ's failure atonement because people like Nancy have salvation but they goes hell.

Let's review your error fighting against the Word of God. Your adulteration of the Holy Scripture is evident in your quotations augmented with your heart's thoughts in your posts:

The Book of Free-willians		The Book of Titus
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, even people like Nancy of the world who are eternally under the wrath of God but they enjoy salvation but they suffer punishment but they enjoy salvation-punishment (TomL 2:11)		For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, (Titus 2:11)

And so go your adulterations of the precious Holy Scripture again and again.

Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).

In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in the affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE THE SALVATION OF MAN!!!

 

[TomL]

You two just love to believe things that Holy Scripture does not state such as "Yes Judas partook just like all the other disciples" regarding Luke 22:14-22; in fact, no writing in Luke 22:14-22 indicates Judas partook, so you add to Holy Scripture AGAIN. No Word of God includes Judas Iscariot in Christ's Salvation, especially when he is excluded with Lord Jesus Christ's exception with the word "but" in Luke 22:21.

The word "but" in Luke 22:21 is the Greek word πλήν (Strong's 4133 -plén) - yet, except - biblehub.com) which literally means "except" is the valid translation and concept!

You deducted Luke 22:21-22 from your quotation thus concealing the Truth (John 14:6)! You fabricate your own false language, and your actions proved your inability to righteously perceive King Jesus of the Kingdom of God who says "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God" (John 3:3). Here is the passage:

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This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood, but behold, the hand of the one betraying Me is with Mine on the table for indeed, the Son of Man is going as it has been determined; but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed!​

(Luke 22:20-22)​

Tsk tsk you cannot help but denying scripture can you

Luke 22:20 (ESV) — 20 And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my
blood.

The bread - christ body was given to judas and he ate it

Luke 22:19 (ESV) — 19 And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.”

Christ's body was given for Judas

Please stop your mad denial of God's word