All Claims of The Son's Deity

[101G]

There are only about eight verses in the entire New Testament that can be understood to say that Jesus is God, and every one of them can either be translated in a way that supports the Biblical Unitarian position, or disputed textually, or can be explained from the use of the word “God” in the culture. In contrast, the clear verses where Jesus is said to be a “man” such as when Peter or Paul taught their audiences that Jesus was a man appointed by God are not disputed and in the context there does not seem to be any good reason those men would not have said Jesus was a God-man if in fact that is what he is.

the Lord Jesus was ... "LIKE" ... a man with... "BLOOD". and upon his resurrection, "WITHOUT" blood, he, Jesus, God shared in flesh, is the NEW MAN, that is in his OWN IMAGE from Genesis 1:26 that was to come.

101G.

 

[Peterlag]

the Lord Jesus was ... "LIKE" ... a man with... "BLOOD". and upon his resurrection, "WITHOUT" blood, he, Jesus, God shared in flesh, is the NEW MAN, that is in his OWN IMAGE from Genesis 1:26 that was to come.

101G.

It should be a huge red flag to all of you if you just stop and think that you believe the same doctrine that the Catholics believe.

 

[Runningman]

I will quote verses from literal word for word Bible translations that aims to maintain the highest degree of accuracy to the original languages. Just three verses before the text in question the "Mighty One" in Psalms 45:3, as the Son in Isaiah 9:6 "Mighty God." Do that referred to any human?

I will also quote from a literal Bible translation, in this case the Smith's Literal Translation, where the same word for "Mighty One" in Psalm 45:3 and Isaiah 9:6 appears in Ezekiel.

Notice closely how they didn't translate it as "Mighty Gods" in the below verse or Psalm 45:3. Therefore the best Biblical consistency is that Jesus is not the Mighty God. Know why? He was never called any such thing in the Bible. Applying Isaiah 9:6 is a common mistake by trinitarians since Isaiah 9:6 is never once applied to Jesus by God, the prophets, Jesus, or the disciples anywhere in the Bible.

Ezekiel 32
21The strong of the mighty shall say to him from the midst of hades with his helpers: they went down; they lay uncircumcised, wounded of the sword.

Do you believe Jesus' words when He said neither had heard the voice of the Father anytime?(John 5:37)
Then whose voice was that that commanded Moses?(Jos 22:9)
Whom was described as the "Mighty One, God?" in Joshua 22:22?
Again, do that refer to human to you?

Yes these all refer to humans. Did you know that "strong and mighty" in Ezekiel 32:21 uses the same Hebrew words as the words you're attempting to deify Jesus with?

Psa 45:3 Gird Your sword on Your thigh, O Mighty One, In Your splendor and Your majesty!
Joh 5:37 "And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form.
Jos 22:9 The sons of Reuben and the sons of Gad and the half-tribe of Manasseh returned home and departed from the sons of Israel at Shiloh which is in the land of Canaan, to go to the land of Gilead, to the land of their possession which they had possessed, according to the command of the LORD through Moses.
Jos 22:22 "The Mighty One, God, the LORD, the Mighty One, God, the LORD! He knows, and may Israel itself know. If it was in rebellion, or if in an unfaithful act against the LORD do not save us this day!


You can apply those Bible verses above to answer this interpretation.

Psalm 45 is still about king Solomon. They are calling Solomon a mighty just like they did the other humans in Ezekiel 32:21. You have not provided any convincing argument that would suggest you have soundly divided the Bible. I would also add, word games and semantics of the Bible will never help you as a trinitarian. There are to many words and concepts that trinitarians rely on that are not stated or described in the Bible.

 

[Peterlag]

I will also quote from a literal Bible translation, in this case the Smith's Literal Translation, where the same word for "Mighty One" in Psalm 45:3 and Isaiah 9:6 appears in Ezekiel.

Notice closely how they didn't translate it as "Mighty Gods" in the below verse or Psalm 45:3. Therefore the best Biblical consistency is that Jesus is not the Mighty God. Know why? He was never called any such thing in the Bible. Applying Isaiah 9:6 is a common mistake by trinitarians since Isaiah 9:6 is never once applied to Jesus by God, the prophets, Jesus, or the disciples anywhere in the Bible.

Ezekiel 32
21The strong of the mighty shall say to him from the midst of hades with his helpers: they went down; they lay uncircumcised, wounded of the sword.

Yes these all refer to humans. Did you know that "strong and mighty" in Ezekiel 32:21 uses the same Hebrew words as the words you're attempting to deify Jesus with?

Psalm 45 is still about king Solomon. They are calling Solomon a mighty just like they did the other humans in Ezekiel 32:21. You have not provided any convincing argument that would suggest you have soundly divided the Bible. I would also add, word games and semantics of the Bible will never help you as a trinitarian. There are to many words and concepts that trinitarians rely on that are not stated or described in the Bible.

You do write well when you say there are to many words and concepts that trinitarians rely on that are not stated or described in the Bible. What they use that you know so well is bits and pieces of words and half verses along with their own human reasoning, imagination, speculation and assumptions as they pick one verse here, and another verse there, a hint here, and a clue there.

 

[Runningman]

You do write well when you say there are to many words and concepts that trinitarians rely on that are not stated or described in the Bible. What they use that you know so well is bits and pieces of words and half verses along with their own human reasoning, imagination, speculation and assumptions as they pick one verse here, and another verse there, a hint here, and a clue there.

Trinitarianism is a bunch of misleading half-truths built on cherry picking verses and saying it means something that usually is contradicted by the context.