God The Holy Spirit

[101G]

No, because plural pronouns are used in John 14:23, and other places as well. Perhaps this was done for people like you to get it through their head what the truth is.

John 14:23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." my God how IGNORANT can one be. Listen and Learn.

we and our a plurality? yes but HOW.... separate and distinct PERSONS? no, a diversity or the EQUAL SHARE of .... HIMSELF, one person. Let's prove this by the bible.

Fred, ... is this two separate and distinct persons, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he."

the LORD said that he is the "FIRST" ... correct... but he said he was with the LAST.... correct, is this not a plurality? just as the Word in John 1:1 is ... "WITH" .. God and is God correct. again a plurality... right?

Fred, 101G ask you is the First and the Last in Isaiah two separate and distinct person(s)? yes or No.

and the Word in John 1:1 is the Word a separate and distinct person there? yes or no...... you only need to answer yes or no to both questions.
@Obadiah, you may chime in also if you like.

101G

 

[Fred]

John 14:23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." my God how IGNORANT can one be. Listen and Learn.

we and our a plurality? yes but HOW.... separate and distinct PERSONS? no,

Yes.

a diversity or the EQUAL SHARE of .... HIMSELF, one person. Let's prove this by the bible.

Then plural pronouns would not be used.
You think up a new ridiculous standard but it has no basis in reality.

That's called a delusion.

 

[101G]

Yes.



Then plural pronouns would not be used.
You think up a new ridiculous standard but it has no basis in reality.

That's called a delusion.

is this a yes or no to 101G questions.

101G.

 

[Fred]

is this a yes or no to 101G questions.

101G.

I wrote the word "Yes" and you are asking me if it is a yes or a no?

Then you need to learn how to read.

 

[101G]

@Fred

I wrote the word "Yes" and you are asking me if it is a yes or a no?

Then you need to learn how to read.

Ok Good, now let GOD tell you that you are in ERROR.
A. Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." LET'S SEE WHAT GOD SAY, as to if this is two separate and distinct persons. ANSWER, Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last."
the term "ALSO" means ..... "in addition; too". so in addition to being the First he is the Last also. NOT TWO SEPARATE AND DISTINCT PERSONS, BUT THE SAME ONE PERSON IN THE "EQUAL SHARE OF HIMSELF". just as the Word in John 1:1 " 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God".... "WITH" indicate THE SAME ONE PERSON IN DIVERSITY/or the EQUAL SHARE OF HIMSELF that has come in flesh.

this is why the Lord Jesus is called the First and the Last in revelation..... because he is ONE person in an ECHAD or the ... ORDINAL DESIGNATATION of himself to come...... (smile).... see Fred you had no clue that God is a diversity of himself.

scripture, Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
the Lord Jesus is before, (ROOT), and after, (OFFSPRING), David.... HOW? .... Ordinal designation. meaning first and Last..... this is how and why the Lord Jesus can sit on the throne in Revelation chapter 4 and 5 ... and at the same time stand before the very same throne that he sits on at the same time.... (smile).... YIKES!... this is just too easy.

now how do 101G know that the ECHAD of God is the equal share of himself? answer Philippians 2:6. and root out the term "FORM" there...... (smile).

Oh my God this is too easy.

101G.

 

[Fred]

@Fred

Ok Good, now let GOD tell you that you are in ERROR.
A. Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." LET'S SEE WHAT GOD SAY, as to if this is two separate and distinct persons. ANSWER, Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last."
the term "ALSO" means ..... "in addition; too". so in addition to being the First he is the Last also. NOT TWO SEPARATE AND DISTINCT PERSONS, BUT THE SAME ONE PERSON IN THE "EQUAL SHARE OF HIMSELF". just as the Word in John 1:1 " 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God".... "WITH" indicate THE SAME ONE PERSON IN DIVERSITY/or the EQUAL SHARE OF HIMSELF that has come in flesh.

this is why the Lord Jesus is called the First and the Last in revelation..... because he is ONE person in an ECHAD or the ... ORDINAL DESIGNATATION of himself to come...... (smile).... see Fred you had no clue that God is a diversity of himself.

scripture, Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
the Lord Jesus is before, (ROOT), and after, (OFFSPRING), David.... HOW? .... Ordinal designation. meaning first and Last..... this is how and why the Lord Jesus can sit on the throne in Revelation chapter 4 and 5 ... and at the same time stand before the very same throne that he sits on at the same time.... (smile).... YIKES!... this is just too easy.

now how do 101G know that the ECHAD of God is the equal share of himself? answer Philippians 2:6. and root out the term "FORM" there...... (smile).

Oh my God this is too easy.

101G.

Dodge of John 14:23.

Calling 101G back to it, because he is scraed of it in that it refutes his false doctrine.

 

[101G]

Dodge of John 14:23.

Calling 101G back to it, because he is scraed of it in that it refutes his false doctrine.

dodge nothing, just explained John 14:23 ..... can you read with, with, with, understanding? God is a plurality of HIMSELF....

101G.

 

[Fred]

dodge nothing, just explained John 14:23

No, your false doctrine attempts to tarnish it.

..... can you read with, with, with, understanding?

Not the mess you make.

God is a plurality of HIMSELF....

Keep telling yourself that lie.

 

[101G]

No, your false doctrine attempts to tarnish it.

so again, you're calling the word of God false doctrine? see, you're embarrass that your "we" plurality was explained correctly by scripture. the term "With" eliminated the plurality of a separate and distinct Godhead... while the term "ALSO" explained the same plurality in EQUAL SHARE as Philippians 2:6 clearly states. so you're reproved.

Not the mess you make.

personal oponion, reprove 101G by the scriptures. the apostle Paul was correct, 1 Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."

Keep telling yourself that lie.

if it's a LIE, reprove it by scripture then.... (smile).....

101G.

 

[Fred]

so again, you're calling the word of God false doctrine?

don't confuse the word of God with your false doctrine

 

[101G]

To all,
arguing or debating, or natural man comments about the Word of God is useless. one must "REASON" out the TRUTH, because the Word of God is not changing for 101G or anyone else.

so, let's do as God said, Isaiah 1:18 "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."

what do the term "REASON" means,
1. a cause, explanation, or justification for an action or event:
2. the power of the mind to think, understand, and form judgments by a process of logic:

so, if God almighty say, "LET US" why not us? .............. let's REASON TOGETHER. because, Amos 3:3 "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"

101G.

 

[101G]

To all,
Let's REASON out the Word of God concerning the Godhead, and it's plurality. the very first scripture ........
Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

here we see a plurality in verse 26 above, but by reasoning we have a problem. because the very next verse says this, Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."
he and him are not a plurality at all, but a singularity. this is a problem because how can God in verse 26 go from a plurality to a singularity in just one verse.

but we have a game changer. God the Lord Jesus himself. Matthew 19:3 "The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?" Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female," so clearly the Lord Jesus was referring to Genesis 1:27, because he said "HE" which indicate one person. KNOWING that the Lord Jesus cannot LIE, God at Genesis 1 was a single persons, so, common sense tell us that we need to "REASON" out why Genesis 1:26 say us and our.

lets REASON this out.... by the scriptures. not personal comments, but by scripture.

A. why did the Lord Jesus say God in the beginning is a HE, and yet the Word of God record both a plurality and a singularity of persons. if we can reason this out by scripture, then we can establish TRUTH.

B. We know that the bible never contradict itself, so the TRUTH have to be out there in the scriptures itself.

so, let's REASON by the scriptures ... only.

101G.

 

[Obadiah]

is not the Holy Spirit God himself? so, are you asking what God do?

101G.

God thinks it, Jesus speaks it and the Holy Spirit does it. Three in One.

 

[101G]

God thinks it, Jesus speaks it and the Holy Spirit does it. Three in One.

is not the Lord Jesus the Wisdom/Thinking, and the Power/dose it? 1 Corinthians 1:24 "But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God."

that's one person.

101G.

 

[101G]

@Obadiah,
may 101G ask you a question. Is the LORD, (all caps), the same person who is the Lord? yes or no.

101G.

 

[Obadiah]

@Obadiah,
may 101G ask you a question. Is the LORD, (all caps), the same person who is the Lord? yes or no.

101G.

Well yes and no, or maybe.

 

[Obadiah]

is not the Lord Jesus the Wisdom/Thinking, and the Power/dose it? 1 Corinthians 1:24 "But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God."

that's one person.

101G.

With three parts.

The Christian doctrine of the Trinity describes God as one being existing in three co-equal persons: the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. This means that each person is fully God, yet they are distinct from each other and share the same divine nature.

 

[101G]

Well yes and no, or maybe.

Well it's the same one person, only in Ordinal designations of "First", and "Last".

With three parts.

The Christian doctrine of the Trinity describes God as one being existing in three co-equal persons: the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. This means that each person is fully God, yet they are distinct from each other and share the same divine nature.

again, that's the Christian/man doctrine to describe God, the bible never say this. the titles of Father and Son describe the Holy Spirit, GOD, JESUS, in Ordinal designations. .... in time, place, order, and rank, just as Genesis 1:1 clearly states.

101G.

 

[Obadiah]

Well it's the same one person, only in Ordinal designations of "First", and "Last".

again, that's the Christian/man doctrine to describe God, the bible never say this. the titles of Father and Son describe the Holy Spirit, GOD, JESUS, in Ordinal designations. .... in time, place, order, and rank, just as Genesis 1:1 clearly states.

101G.

The Christian doctrine that God is one being existing in three co-equal persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit), is not explicitly stated in the Bible but is derived from various biblical passages and interpreted through theological reasoning. While the term "Trinity" isn't found in scripture, the concept is built upon the understanding that God reveals Himself as three distinct persons who are nevertheless united in one divine essence.

Key points about the Trinity in the Bible:

• One God:
  The Bible consistently emphasizes the oneness of God (Deuteronomy 6:4).

• Three Persons:
  The Bible also refers to God the Father, Jesus Christ (the Son), and the Holy Spirit as distinct persons who are each divine.

• Intertwined Roles:
  Passages show these three persons interacting with each other and with humanity, suggesting their distinct roles and unity (Matthew 28:19, 2 Corinthians 13:13).

• No Explicit Statement:
  No single verse explicitly states the Trinity doctrine, but rather it's inferred from various texts.
  

Biblical passages often cited in support of the Trinity:

• Matthew 28:19: Jesus commands his followers to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

• 2 Corinthians 13:13: Paul's benediction refers to the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit.

• John 1:1: This verse speaks of the Word (Jesus) being with God and being God.

• Genesis 1:1-2: God, the Spirit, and the Word (Jesus) are all present at creation.

In essence, the Trinity is a way of understanding the multifaceted nature of God as revealed in the Bible, highlighting both His unity and His distinct persons.

More about the Trinty

What does the Bible teach about the Trinity? | GotQuestions.org

What does the Bible say about the Trinity / Triunity? Is the doctrine of the Trinity found in the Bible? How is the trinity not tritheism?

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