SAUL: Mosaic Christianity

jeremiah1five

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Mosaic Christianity? What is that? I never heard the word "Mosaic" and "Christianity" together, you may say. But that is exactly what it sounds like and exactly what Saul taught. He not only taught Christianity from the Law of Moses but also from the Psalms and the Prophets. Saul utilized the totality of the Hebrew Scripture of the Law, the Psalms, and the Prophets to teach a salvation of the Jews, the same salvation Jesus taught. Think about it. It's not hard if you are honest with Scripture.

First, Moses prophesied about a Prophet like him to be raised up from among the Hebrew people:

15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; Deuteronomy 18:15 (also verse eighteen.)

And when this Prophet did appear He taught the Hebrew people from out of the Law, the Psalms, and the Prophets.

25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Luke 24:25–27.

Enter Saul, a Hebrew of the Hebrews, and as touching the Law, a Pharisee. Saul describes himself in his letter to the Jewish Christians living in Philippi:

5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless. Philippians 3:5–6.

Not only was Saul zealous of the Law but his walk with God was blameless, no one could accuse him of teaching as a Pharisee anything not contained in the Law. Others also saw this zeal he possessed as a rabbi and Pharisee - even AFTER he became born-again on the road to Damascus:

23 Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them;
24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law. Acts 21:23–24.

Here, James, the Lord's (half-) brother, states that Saul was obedient to the Law of Moses. But there were Jews who believed Saul taught things not found in the Law of Moses:

And Paul, earnestly beholding the council, said, Men and brethren, I have lived in all good conscience before God until this day.
Acts 23:1.

and

14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: Acts 24:14.

We all speak (and teach) things we believe to be true. Saul not only believed zealously the Law of Moses but also taught the Law of Moses to born-again Christians. For Christ and Christianity both come from the Law of Moses. That's what Jesus said in Luke 24:25-27, right? (see above.) But Saul's teaching was seen by some Jews as something else, something they themselves did not grasp not having the Holy Spirit. How could they? They only understood the letter of the Law and not the spirit of the Law which both Jesus and Saul taught - both having the Holy Spirit.

Jesus and Saul both taught the Hebrew people from out of the Law, the Psalms, and the Prophets. Both declared this to be true.
Both taught Mosaic Christianity. Both taught Psalmic Christianity. Both taught Prophetic Christianity.

The Law, the Psalms, and the Prophets: Biblical Christianity.

If Christianity is not Biblical, then it is NOT Christianity.
 
Jesus and Saul both taught the Hebrew people from out of the Law, the Psalms, and the Prophets. Both declared this to be true.
Both taught Mosaic Christianity. Both taught Psalmic Christianity. Both taught Prophetic Christianity.

The Law, the Psalms, and the Prophets: Biblical Christianity.

If Christianity is not Biblical, then it is NOT Christianity.
error, RE-READ Galatians 3 ..... ALL OF IT, ...... Y0U FOOLISH "GALATIONS"...... (smile)

101G,
 
I'm not Galatian.
Oh yes you .... ARE... (smile) ....FOOLISH in IGNORANCE, lol, LOL, lol, Oh my ... God. The blind, and still cannot see .... even with the LIGHTS ON. theirs eyes wide open and still in the ditch.

101G.
 
14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: Acts 24:14.

We all speak (and teach) things we believe to be true. Saul not only believed zealously the Law of Moses but also taught the Law of Moses to born-again Christians. For Christ and Christianity both come from the Law of Moses.
that's your fault/ERROR, listen to Paul the apostle, Romans 10:4 "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth." (SEE, YOU DON'T BELIEVE), Romans 10:5 "For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them." Romans 10:6 "But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)" Romans 10:7 "Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)" Romans 10:8 "But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;"

when did Moses teach you this .... Oh foolish GALATIONS? listen,Deuteronomy 30:11 "For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off." Deuteronomy 30:12 "It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?" Deuteronomy 30:13 "Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?" (LISTEN, LISTEN,) Deuteronomy 30:14 "But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it."

MOSES TAUGHT THIS IN THE O.T. WHICH IS A ...... "COMMAND.... WHY ARE YOU NOT OBEYING IT?.

101G.
 
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2.

"For we shall see Him as He is", what?

Answer: As He is described in Scripture.

As He is described in the Hebrew Scripture of the Law, the Psalms, and the Prophets, that is.

Four Hebrew men wrote the gospels (good news.) And what is the good news? That God has kept His Promise and sent Israel's Deliverer, that Prophet like unto Moses. And because the Hebrew people were scattered throughout the Gentile world, places like Assyria and Babylon and places in between, it is important to God to communicate that He is the God of Israel and He keeps His Promises. One great promise is the New Covenant as prophesied by Jeremiah in 31:31-34.

In this New Covenant God requires nothing from the Hebrew people. Instead, God describes what it is He is going to do and one of those things is granting forgiveness of sins to the Hebrew people. But wasn't God forgiving the Hebrew people through the Mosaic Covenant through the sacrificial system He put in place for the people to perform? Yes, He did. But this system of sacrifices was temporary. It was done yearly on Yom Kippur, Israel's holiest day of the year. By sacrificing yearly God laid the foundation through which He would forgive the sins of the Hebrew people finally and forever and this was accomplished by sending His own Son to die (and resurrect) and conquering both sin and death in the final sacrifice God Himself provided through His Son, Jesus Christ, the King of Israel.
The New Covenant is only the Mosaic Covenant fulfilled by Jesus Christ. That is the New Covenant Jeremiah was describing. God has forgiven all the sins of the Hebrew people. Many will say that the Roman destruction and scattering of Israel and their Temple was judgment for rejecting their Messiah, but this cannot be true. There is no more condemnation of sin in the Hebrew people if forgiveness has been given and sins washed away. Are there still sins to pay for individually after one has been forgiven by God? The answer is "No." Again, God keeps His promises and that is the good news we should all be grateful for.

Jesus Christ instituted this New Covenant at His last (last) Passover, and this is described in the gospels. There is no longer sacrifice for sins as all has been accomplished by Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Another of the Hebrew prophets, Joel, prophesied to Israel that God would send His Spirit to them and this happened as described in Acts Two. The arrival of the Holy Spirit of Promise was the beginning of this New Covenant era and soon God would raise up men (and women) who would scour the Hebrew Scripture for understanding the "new thing" God was doing in the earth and among the Hebrew people. Men like Saul, a rabbi and Pharisee of the Hebrew religion would study the Scripture to understand what this New Covenant detailed in order to explain what God had done and was doing among this people and in time Saul was given the understanding from Scripture of promises and prophecies of those things. Other men were given understanding as well and they all communicated their findings through letters and discussion of the Old Covenant writings in possession of the Hebrew people.

Saul says:

19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Galatians 3:19–25.

The Law today is Israel's schoolmaster to bring them to Christ and once brought to Christ the Law serves as instruction in righteousness so that the Hebrew people may be led of God in their daily and national lives.
And THAT also is good news.
 
to all,
Attention to all who are still in IGNORANCE of the NEW COVENANT. for your sake ...... PLEASE LISTEN, READ ROMANS CHAPTER 10, one has the commandment from Moses to believe by FAITH.

understand "Righteousness" is another word for "holy". God command us to be "holy" and that holiness only comes by JESUS CHRIST, who is the NEW COVENANT, not written on stone nor on paper, but written in our hearts ..... who believes.

101G.
 
that's your fault/ERROR, listen to Paul the apostle, Romans 10:4 "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth." (SEE, YOU DON'T BELIEVE), Romans 10:5 "For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them." Romans 10:6 "But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)" Romans 10:7 "Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)" Romans 10:8 "But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;"

when did Moses teach you this .... Oh foolish GALATIONS? listen,Deuteronomy 30:11 "For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off." Deuteronomy 30:12 "It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?" Deuteronomy 30:13 "Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?" (LISTEN, LISTEN,) Deuteronomy 30:14 "But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it."

MOSES TAUGHT THIS IN THE O.T. WHICH IS A ...... "COMMAND.... WHY ARE YOU NOT OBEYING IT?.

101G.
There's no sense in answering you. It doesn't matter what Scripture I post in reply; you won't believe God.
 
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2.

"For we shall see Him as He is", what?

Answer: As He is described in Scripture.

As He is described in the Hebrew Scripture of the Law, the Psalms, and the Prophets, that is.

Four Hebrew men wrote the gospels (good news.) And what is the good news? That God has kept His Promise and sent Israel's Deliverer,
Who did he deliver? answer, same book, same author, 1 John 2:2 "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."

case closed.

101G.
 
There's no sense in answering you. It doesn't matter what Scripture I post in reply; you won't believe God.
the pot calling the kettle black? scripture answer scripture, 101G has answered you with scripture, it's you who refuse to .... "BELIEVE" just as 101G have said,

Galatians 3:1 "O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?" Galatians 3:2 "This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?" Galatians 3:3 "Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?" Galatians 3:4 "Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain." Galatians 3:5 "He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?" Galatians 3:6 "Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness." Galatians 3:7 "Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham." Galatians 3:8 "And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed." Galatians 3:9 "So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham." Galatians 3:10 "For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them." Galatians 3:11 "But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith." Galatians 3:12 "And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them." Galatians 3:13 "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:" Galatians 3:14 "That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith." Galatians 3:15 "Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto." Galatians 3:16 "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ." Galatians 3:17 "And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect." Galatians 3:18 "For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise." Galatians 3:19 "Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator." Galatians 3:20 "Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one." Galatians 3:21 "Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law." Galatians 3:22 "But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe." Galatians 3:23 "But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed." Galatians 3:24 "Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith." Galatians 3:25 "But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster." Galatians 3:26 "For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3:27 "For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ." Galatians 3:28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3:29 "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."

101G.
 
to all,
Attention to all who are still in IGNORANCE of the NEW COVENANT. for your sake ...... PLEASE LISTEN, READ ROMANS CHAPTER 10, one has the commandment from Moses to believe by FAITH.

understand "Righteousness" is another word for "holy". God command us to be "holy" and that holiness only comes by JESUS CHRIST, who is the NEW COVENANT, not written on stone nor on paper, but written in our hearts ..... who believes.

101G.
I won't allow errors to be posted on my thread without saying something.

Righteousness and holiness have distinct meanings, particularly in a theological context:

Righteousness

Definition:
Righteousness primarily refers to moral uprightness, acting in accordance with what is right, just, and fair. It's about conduct, deeds, and alignment with a standard of justice or moral law.
Action-oriented: It emphasizes doing what is right in relation to others and in adherence to established principles or laws.
Relational: It often describes being in a right standing or relationship with God and/or with other people.
Example: In a religious sense, a righteous person is someone whose actions and character align with God's moral standards. It's about obedience and living justly.
Holiness

Definition:
Holiness refers to a state of being "set apart" or consecrated. It implies purity, sacredness, and freedom from sin. It describes a nature or quality rather than primarily an action.

Nature/State-oriented: It's about an internal condition of purity and separation, often for a specific, sacred purpose.

Separation/Consecration: To be holy means to be distinct, pure, and dedicated to God or a higher purpose.

Example: God is inherently holy, meaning He is perfectly pure and set apart from all evil. Humans are called to be holy by being set apart from sin and dedicated to God.

Key Differences and Relationship:

Holiness is the source, righteousness is the result:
God's holiness (His pure and set-apart nature) is the foundation from which His righteousness (His just and right actions) flows. Similarly, for humans, true righteousness is seen as a fruit of holiness. If one is truly set apart (holy), righteous actions will follow.

Being vs. Doing: Holiness is often described as a state of "being," while righteousness is more about "doing." You are holy by being set apart; you are righteous by acting rightly.

Internal vs. External (though both have both aspects): Holiness is often seen as an internal purity and dedication, while righteousness is more outwardly visible in one's conduct. However, true holiness will manifest in righteous actions, and superficial righteous acts without internal holiness are seen as insufficient.

Gift from God: In many theological perspectives, both holiness and righteousness are ultimately gifts from God, not something humans can achieve purely on their own. Through faith, believers are declared righteous (positional righteousness) and are progressively made holy (sanctification) by God's work in them.
In essence, holiness is about one's character and being set apart, while righteousness is about one's conduct and doing what is right in alignment with that character. One ideally leads to the other.
 
I won't allow errors to be posted on my thread without saying something.

Righteousness and holiness have distinct meanings, particularly in a theological context:

Righteousness

Definition:
Righteousness primarily refers to moral uprightness, acting in accordance with what is right, just, and fair. It's about conduct, deeds, and alignment with a standard of justice or moral law.
Action-oriented: It emphasizes doing what is right in relation to others and in adherence to established principles or laws.
Relational: It often describes being in a right standing or relationship with God and/or with other people.
Example: In a religious sense, a righteous person is someone whose actions and character align with God's moral standards. It's about obedience and living justly.
Holiness

Definition:
Holiness refers to a state of being "set apart" or consecrated. It implies purity, sacredness, and freedom from sin. It describes a nature or quality rather than primarily an action.

Nature/State-oriented: It's about an internal condition of purity and separation, often for a specific, sacred purpose.

Separation/Consecration: To be holy means to be distinct, pure, and dedicated to God or a higher purpose.

Example: God is inherently holy, meaning He is perfectly pure and set apart from all evil. Humans are called to be holy by being set apart from sin and dedicated to God.

Key Differences and Relationship:

Holiness is the source, righteousness is the result:
God's holiness (His pure and set-apart nature) is the foundation from which His righteousness (His just and right actions) flows. Similarly, for humans, true righteousness is seen as a fruit of holiness. If one is truly set apart (holy), righteous actions will follow.

Being vs. Doing: Holiness is often described as a state of "being," while righteousness is more about "doing." You are holy by being set apart; you are righteous by acting rightly.

Internal vs. External (though both have both aspects): Holiness is often seen as an internal purity and dedication, while righteousness is more outwardly visible in one's conduct. However, true holiness will manifest in righteous actions, and superficial righteous acts without internal holiness are seen as insufficient.

Gift from God: In many theological perspectives, both holiness and righteousness are ultimately gifts from God, not something humans can achieve purely on their own. Through faith, believers are declared righteous (positional righteousness) and are progressively made holy (sanctification) by God's work in them.
In essence, holiness is about one's character and being set apart, while righteousness is about one's conduct and doing what is right in alignment with that character. One ideally leads to the other.
question, "are the rightiousness, and the Holiness of God Earned or both a gift?' ... think before you answer. again, THINK ..... before you answer.....

101G.
 
question, "are the rightiousness, and the Holiness of God Earned or both a gift?' ... think before you answer. again, THINK ..... before you answer.....

101G.
Oh, nooooo....a question! Don't ask me to THINK! It hurts my brain to THINK! I'd rather just copy and paste an answer from somebody else's bible study! Please, don't make me THINK! God doesn't want His children to THINK! We're supposed to all just give the textbook responses that are in my church bulletin or in our bible commentaries! But just don't ask me to THINK!
Please, STOP! My head hurts!
 
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