A Little Salvation story.

[Tothalordbeallglory]

Trump is not a christian - don't be fooled

If he is, it is the same capacity as Judas

FYI - i voted for Trump but he is a different person then when he was in his first Presidency

Spiritual discernment is real indeed my friend .
I seen this in trump even while he was running the first time for office .
By grace i knew the direction he was gonna take them .
Not to mention
HE sure did claim HE sat under norman vincent peale

 

[FreeInChrist]

Spiritual discernment is real indeed my friend .
I seen this in trump even while he was running the first time for office .
By grace i knew the direction he was gonna take them .
Not to mention
HE sure did claim HE sat under norman vincent peale

But in his first run he was far more different then the last one.

Everyone saw the difference.

He kept saying it was because God spared his life in Butler PA

And no one knows what he may have experienced after that. He is different.

But to switch from a mainline denomination to a non-denominational one
just truly bothers me... and I dont know why because I certainly garner
no affinity for the Presbyterian Church.

All we can do is wait and watch.

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

But in his first run he was far more different then the last one.

Everyone saw the difference.

He kept saying it was because God spared his life in Butler PA

And no one knows what he may have experienced after that. He is different.

But to switch from a mainline denomination to a non-denominational one
just truly bothers me... and I dont know why because I certainly garner
no affinity for the Presbyterian Church.

All we can do is wait and watch.

Even a muslim might say GOD spared his life, but we both know the god of the muslim
is that ol serpent .
Spirtual discernment is real . I saw the deception in Trump
long before he even got the party nomination the first time .
he aint fooling me . and neither is the liberal progressive realm .
Soon the nations will plead for peace and the solution
will bring blood against any and all who did not conform to this inclusive love god .
PERSECUTION IS COMING . ITS COMING for even the sheep who dwell in the western socities .
Mark them words well . Cause ITS COMING . the betrayal of the true sheep draws nigh
and our betrayer and betrayers will beleive the love god and its solution .

 

[FreeInChrist]

Even a muslim might say GOD spared his life, but we both know the god of the muslim
is that ol serpent .
Spirtual discernment is real . I saw the deception in Trump
long before he even got the party nomination the first time .
he aint fooling me . and neither is the liberal progressive realm .
Soon the nations will plead for peace and the solution
will bring blood against any and all who did not conform to this inclusive love god .
PERSECUTION IS COMING . ITS COMING for even the sheep who dwell in the western socities .
Mark them words well . Cause ITS COMING . the betrayal of the true sheep draws nigh
and our betrayer and betrayers will beleive the love god and its solution .

You are so right. I never saw the deception in Trump the first time because his personality
stayed the same. But what I see possibly happened was when the group of Evangelicals
got hold of him, I think it was in Chicago, and went to work on him... to secure the evangelical
vote... that bothered me because just like here... they all have differing beliefs.... so it was like
a "one" religion going to work on the man. "The end justifies the means" attitudes

Now, when he got shot I saw and change, beyond the change when he came running again.

He believes God saved him, and we cannot say He didn't. Afterall , throughout time God has used
whomever he choses to accomplish His means . We are getting some good now, and this one is far
better then what we would have had. However,

As you say..."ITS COMING . the betrayal of the true sheep draws nigh
and our betrayer and betrayers will believe the love god and its solution ."

And I pray there will be enough of us to fight in those trenches and not have been pulled off the
mark.... I only say that because even in this as well as other forums I have been on, I have observed
all too often a change in those who promote their beliefs and then a few months later seem to have
been pull off their course.

We cannot let that happen.

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

You are so right. I never saw the deception in Trump the first time because his personality
stayed the same. But what I see possibly happened was when the group of Evangelicals
got hold of him, I think it was in Chicago, and went to work on him... to secure the evangelical
vote... that bothered me because just like here... they all have differing beliefs.... so it was like
a "one" religion going to work on the man. "The end justifies the means" attitudes

Now, when he got shot I saw and change, beyond the change when he came running again.

He believes God saved him, and we cannot say He didn't. Afterall , throughout time God has used
whomever he choses to accomplish His means . We are getting some good now, and this one is far
better then what we would have had. However,

As you say..."ITS COMING . the betrayal of the true sheep draws nigh
and our betrayer and betrayers will believe the love god and its solution ."

And I pray there will be enough of us to fight in those trenches and not have been pulled off the
mark.... I only say that because even in this as well as other forums I have been on, I have observed
all too often a change in those who promote their beliefs and then a few months later seem to have
been pull off their course.

We cannot let that happen.

Of course my friend . We know GOD is in control . He even raised up pharoah
So yes i do know God spared trump that bullet . But we both know IT dont mean
its cause GOD approves of Him .
You wrote of the evangelicals and chicago .
YES that was surely seen .
But let us not also forget TRUMP was long influenced by norman vincent peale .
I notice that some within the Evangelical realm
will use the excuse , oh but trump is a baby christain .
Actually he is not a baby nor a christain . Way back , even years
before His run , HE knew also paula white and gravitated right into what she preached .
He has been under the influence of a form of christanity for many years .
The problem is , ITS BEEN the bad stuff , prosperity nar realm and other things .
The mans influence of what he thinks is christain , IS NOT christain .
You are correct my friend , we must warn and remind all . because the longer this goes on
i notice those subtile changes in folks who do go under the influence of that finding common ground stuff
and they get worse in time and more so as time goes on .
Its time for a major call to repentance to faith in Christ , to get back into the scriptures
to be learning .

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

You are so right. I never saw the deception in Trump the first time because his personality
stayed the same. But what I see possibly happened was when the group of Evangelicals
got hold of him, I think it was in Chicago, and went to work on him... to secure the evangelical
vote... that bothered me because just like here... they all have differing beliefs.... so it was like
a "one" religion going to work on the man. "The end justifies the means" attitudes

Now, when he got shot I saw and change, beyond the change when he came running again.

He believes God saved him, and we cannot say He didn't. Afterall , throughout time God has used
whomever he choses to accomplish His means . We are getting some good now, and this one is far
better then what we would have had. However,

As you say..."ITS COMING . the betrayal of the true sheep draws nigh
and our betrayer and betrayers will believe the love god and its solution ."

And I pray there will be enough of us to fight in those trenches and not have been pulled off the
mark.... I only say that because even in this as well as other forums I have been on, I have observed
all too often a change in those who promote their beliefs and then a few months later seem to have
been pull off their course.

We cannot let that happen.

read that very last sentence you wrote .
We cannot let that happen .
And now a reminder , GET TO THE TRENCHES ONE and ALL
we must contend for the true faith , its correction time in the building . Armour on and foward march .

 

[David Koberstein]

Lets find out who understands..what ISNT Salvation.

Here is a little story.

Its a nice Spring morning, and a Catholic Priest, in a Local Perish in Midville USA, has just finished laying out 2 sets of "baptismal" robes and 2 large white towels, right after He filled up the baptismal pool with water and then heated it with the flip of a switch.

He then steps outside, and looking around he sees a street-person, homeless, that he's seen many times.
The Priest gets his attention, and says.....>"Friend, do you want to go to Heaven when you die".
The street person is surprised by this question, but immediately says.....>"yes i do, father."
The Priest says......ok, come on inside the Church.

Its now 10 mins later and now both the Priest and the Homeless man are wearing the Church's supplied "baptimal robes"..

The Priest now leads the barefoot Homeless man into the warm baptimal waters and begins to lower the homeless man down into the water so that He is submerged.
And while lowering Him, the Priest says outloud, loudly, so that the man can hear...>>"i baptize you in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit".....and then he brings the homeless man back up, and then both go quietly to the dry towels and the fresh robes...

10 mins later the Priest walks the Homeless man to the door of the Chruch, and as the man is leaving the Priest says......Congratulations, you are now a Chrisitan, your sins are all forgiven, and you are going to Heaven.
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A.) Reader.......... if you believe that this Homeless man is now a Christian and will go to Heaven, then you are truly deceived by a Cult.

My brother is a born again believer and is Catholic. I don't know if your trying to be offensive to the Catholic church or not.
We sometimes see the same story line within evangelical churches. So what is your point?

Shalom

 

[David Koberstein]

Of course my friend . We know GOD is in control . He even raised up pharoah
So yes i do know God spared trump that bullet . But we both know IT dont mean
its cause GOD approves of Him .
You wrote of the evangelicals and chicago .
YES that was surely seen .
But let us not also forget TRUMP was long influenced by norman vincent peale .
I notice that some within the Evangelical realm
will use the excuse , oh but trump is a baby christain .
Actually he is not a baby nor a christain . Way back , even years
before His run , HE knew also paula white and gravitated right into what she preached .
He has been under the influence of a form of christanity for many years .
The problem is , ITS BEEN the bad stuff , prosperity nar realm and other things .
The mans influence of what he thinks is christain , IS NOT christain .
You are correct my friend , we must warn and remind all . because the longer this goes on
i notice those subtile changes in folks who do go under the influence of that finding common ground stuff
and they get worse in time and more so as time goes on .
Its time for a major call to repentance to faith in Christ , to get back into the scriptures
to be learning .

From a Jewish perspective Trump has similar characteristic's as King David. Trump has been an utmost
blessing to the Jewish people.

Shalom

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

From a Jewish perspective Trump has similar characteristic's as King David. Trump has been an utmost
blessing to the Jewish people.

Shalom

It may seem like this , but i tell us all that Trump is not a blessing to the jewish people .
His solution for peace is of interfaith , and beleive me that is no blessing to the jew or to the gentile .
We must pull out and away from politics
and return to simply putting all hope , trust in GOD , in HIS Christ
and simply contend for the true faith
and by pure wholesome words of truth edify the people .
To include and not exclude correction .

 

[Marvelloustime]

It may seem like this , but i tell us all that Trump is not a blessing to the jewish people .
His solution for peace is of interfaith , and beleive me that is no blessing to the jew or to the gentile .
We must pull out and away from politics
and return to simply putting all hope , trust in GOD , in HIS Christ
and simply contend for the true faith
and by pure wholesome words of truth edify the people .
To include and not exclude correction .

@Tothalordbeallglory
“The fear of man bringeth a snare: But whoso putteth his trust in the LORD shall be safe.”
‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭29‬:‭25‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[praise_yeshua]

My brother is a born again believer and is Catholic. I don't know if your trying to be offensive to the Catholic church or not.
We sometimes see the same story line within evangelical churches. So what is your point?

Shalom

Kinda odd given the facts of the Crusades.

Groups as a whole are not context of salvation. Salvation is about individuals. Not groups. Every man shall individually face God. There is no such thing as a "group judgement".

Not that I don't believe Catholics are saved. I do. God saves people who sincerely embrace Jesus Christ. Sometimes the sincerity of belief out weighs the baggage of false doctrine. Jesus had compassion on the people because they had no shepherd to lead them. I believe today this is usually the case with individual salvation.

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

But in his first run he was far more different then the last one.

Everyone saw the difference.

He kept saying it was because God spared his life in Butler PA

And no one knows what he may have experienced after that. He is different.

But to switch from a mainline denomination to a non-denominational one
just truly bothers me... and I dont know why because I certainly garner
no affinity for the Presbyterian Church.

All we can do is wait and watch.

What bothers me
is what he does and who he works with and whose agenda he has set forth .
Interfaith co exist interreligious dialogue abraham peace accords
IT AINT COMING OF GOD AT ALL
and yet BOTH sides push this inclusivity upon the peoples .
I can only pray for these men to repent .
But i will follow none of them . THEY are leading us astray .
THE ONE GOAL IS
to merge the religoins into finding common ground to beleive the lie .
The lie they make sound so loving and so good for humanity .
BUT IT IS a lie and it will save none of them and will be their damnation on the day of the Great
and MIGHTY GOD and the LAMB who it denied . WE must break away
from them all . WE can PRAY FOR THEM to repent
but do not in any way cling to them and heed their words . ITs all a snare
and a very subitle and highly clever snare it was . IT came claoked under
The phrase GOD IS LOVE but man did it twist things . Many now see
the working of the mystery of inquity and that which is of anti christ
as LOVE , as being loving . BUT IT IS A DELUSION my friend . THEY think its of GOD
but it is NOT .

 

[FreeInChrist]

What bothers me
is what he does and who he works with and whose agenda he has set forth .
Interfaith co exist interreligious dialogue abraham peace accords
IT AINT COMING OF GOD AT ALL

You remember when in the bible it said in Exodus 7:3-4 says, “But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and though I multiply my miraculous signs and wonders in Egypt, he will not listen to you. Then I will lay my hand on Egypt and with mighty acts of judgment I will bring out...my people the Israelites.”

Why would God harden Pharaoh’s heart just so He could judge Egypt more severely with additional plagues?

My point is... we simply cannot know what is in God's master plan for the end of the age. God moves those chess pieces around and some make no sense at all.

Surly you could not have preferred Biden in another term. We would have been nuked by now.

All we can do is watch.

Our heavenly Father has His own ways. Just look at what he permitted for Job.

You just cannot say "IT AINT COMING OF GOD AT ALL"

and yet BOTH sides push this inclusivity upon the peoples .
I can only pray for these men to repent .
But i will follow none of them . THEY are leading us astray .
THE ONE GOAL IS
to merge the religoins into finding common ground to beleive the lie .
The lie they make sound so loving and so good for humanity .
BUT IT IS a lie and it will save none of them and will be their damnation on the day of the Great
and MIGHTY GOD and the LAMB who it denied . WE must break away
from them all . WE can PRAY FOR THEM to repent
but do not in any way cling to them and heed their words . ITs all a snare
and a very subitle and highly clever snare it was . IT came claoked under
The phrase GOD IS LOVE but man did it twist things . Many now see
the working of the mystery of inquity and that which is of anti christ
as LOVE , as being loving . BUT IT IS A DELUSION my friend . THEY think its of GOD
but it is NOT .

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

You remember when in the bible it said in Exodus 7:3-4 says, “But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and though I multiply my miraculous signs and wonders in Egypt, he will not listen to you. Then I will lay my hand on Egypt and with mighty acts of judgment I will bring out...my people the Israelites.”

Why would God harden Pharaoh’s heart just so He could judge Egypt more severely with additional plagues?

My point is... we simply cannot know what is in God's master plan for the end of the age. God moves those chess pieces around and some make no sense at all.

Surly you could not have preferred Biden in another term. We would have been nuked by now.

All we can do is watch.

Our heavenly Father has His own ways. Just look at what he permitted for Job.

You just cannot say "IT AINT COMING OF GOD AT ALL"

Take heed . i vote for none and will hope in none .
OH you are correct about one thing indeed my friend .
GOD is allowing something all right .
For GOD shall have them agree and to give their kingdom unto the beast .
That which is of anti christ , the uholy reprobation of minds
has been unleashed and it will take any and all not in the lambs book of life RIGHT to the lie .
It aint coming , ITS HERE right now and only grows .
So as i said , HOPE IN none of them for both sides now do the working of that which is of anti christ .
This is all a dog and pony show my friend . ALL a dog and pony show
to entertain the masses . Many have NO idea just how far along we already ARE .
So better strap on all armour
and leave the worldly govts to do as they will .
OUR business , our focus , IS ON JESUS THE CHRIST and the preaching of HIS GLORIOUS NAME
teaching all things HE did say .
Hope not , look not too , cling not too , vote not for
Trust not in THESE EARTHEN politicians . IN any nation of this earth .
The influence of anti christ is upon them all now and there is nothing we can do about that .
IT was foretold this would come to pass .
ALL we can do is , POINT TO CHRIST , correct any and i do mean any sin and error within the believers
Preach THE TRUE JESUS CHRIST with a dire reminder of the absolute dire need to BELEIVE ON HIM .
This vapor of life we now live in
Paul and james and scores of others have lived in it too at one time .
FAITHFUL UNTO DEATH they were
WE MUST BE TOO . In this last and final hour IT grows and has grown much worse
and all in the lambs book of life , RESIST it by faith in JESUS the CHRIST .
TIME TO arise , time to contend for the true faith and all lovely sound doctrine .
For many will wail on the day of the LORD .

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

You remember when in the bible it said in Exodus 7:3-4 says, “But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and though I multiply my miraculous signs and wonders in Egypt, he will not listen to you. Then I will lay my hand on Egypt and with mighty acts of judgment I will bring out...my people the Israelites.”

Why would God harden Pharaoh’s heart just so He could judge Egypt more severely with additional plagues?

My point is... we simply cannot know what is in God's master plan for the end of the age. God moves those chess pieces around and some make no sense at all.

Surly you could not have preferred Biden in another term. We would have been nuked by now.

All we can do is watch.

Our heavenly Father has His own ways. Just look at what he permitted for Job.

You just cannot say "IT AINT COMING OF GOD AT ALL"

OH its NOT of GOD , but OH YES HE is allowing it .
Its being allowed by GOD but soon on the day of the LORD
HE WILL DESTROY it all . MUCH TRIBULATIONS shall increase upon the sheep
of HIS pasture .
ANY and all who did not conform to the judge not , lovey do image of what they all call and all beleive is God
Will be hunted . No worries , its not GOD they follow
its another god who has come in his own name .
The sheep have THE LORD , so no matter what cometh upon us
WE KNOW HE IS WITH US . blood is coming even upon the sheep in the western socities .

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

You remember when in the bible it said in Exodus 7:3-4 says, “But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and though I multiply my miraculous signs and wonders in Egypt, he will not listen to you. Then I will lay my hand on Egypt and with mighty acts of judgment I will bring out...my people the Israelites.”

Why would God harden Pharaoh’s heart just so He could judge Egypt more severely with additional plagues?

My point is... we simply cannot know what is in God's master plan for the end of the age. God moves those chess pieces around and some make no sense at all.

Surly you could not have preferred Biden in another term. We would have been nuked by now.

All we can do is watch.

Our heavenly Father has His own ways. Just look at what he permitted for Job.

You just cannot say "IT AINT COMING OF GOD AT ALL"

Let us be diligent in the things of the LORD .
Stay refreshed in prayer and the scriptures .
The end hour signs are abounding in this generation .

 

[David Koberstein]

It may seem like this , but i tell us all that Trump is not a blessing to the jewish people .
His solution for peace is of interfaith , and beleive me that is no blessing to the jew or to the gentile .
We must pull out and away from politics
and return to simply putting all hope , trust in GOD , in HIS Christ
and simply contend for the true faith
and by pure wholesome words of truth edify the people .
To include and not exclude correction .

Trump and his father Fred has been a blessing to the Jewish people. When the Jews immigrated to New York after World War 2. Fred Trump gave them a parcel of ground in the city and helped them build a synagogue. There is a plaque in the lobby of the synagogue honoring Fred Trump. You need to read and understand history.
Shalom

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

Trump and his father Fred has been a blessing to the Jewish people. When the Jews immigrated to New York after World War 2. Fred Trump gave them a parcel of ground in the city and helped them build a synagogue. There is a plaque in the lobby of the synagogue honoring Fred Trump. You need to read and understand history.
Shalom

Not a blessing . anyone
no matter how much good they do to a people
That is a co helper to the lie
YEAH they aint a blessing at all .

 

[David Koberstein]

Not a blessing . anyone
no matter how much good they do to a people
That is a co helper to the lie
YEAH they aint a blessing at all .

Neither are you. Your such a fake immature antisemitic so called Christian. Sounds like you got Trump Derangement Syndrome. Better see a shrink!
Shalom

 

[David Koberstein]

Not a blessing . anyone
no matter how much good they do to a people
That is a co helper to the lie
YEAH they aint a blessing at all .

When congregants enter the Beach Haven Jewish Center in Gravesend, Brooklyn, they pass a small plaque hanging just outside the main sanctuary.

“Fred Trump. Humanitarian,” declare the gold embossed, all-caps letters. “Let this plaque be a token of our sincerest appreciation, never to be forgotten, always to be a shining light to all men who have faith.”

The plaque, inscribed Dec. 15, 1956, is the most visible reminder of an unlikely and mostly unknown friendship between the Lutheran real estate developer — and father of President Trump — and this enclave of Orthodox Jews in Brooklyn.

“I would say that the Beach Haven Jewish Center would not be what it is today, if not for Mr. Fred Trump,” Rabbi Shimmy Silver told The Post. “We are grateful for his kindness and forever indebted to him for what he has done for our community,”

In the 1950s, Brooklyn’s Jewish community was exploding as new arrivals — many of them Holocaust survivors — tried to begin new lives.

This presented a dilemma for Rabbi Israel Wagner, whose congregation was starting to outgrow the garage of a building in Fred Trump’s Beach Haven development complex where it had been previously meeting.

So in 1955, he set out to meet the landlord.

Wagner, a native of Poland, wasn’t sure what to expect when he met Fred Trump. They had never spoken and the rabbi only knew the real estate magnate by his tough reputation.

The two hit it off immediately. Trump donated the land on Brooklyn’s Avenue Z, to Wagner’s congregation. A deed of sale from October 1955 shows the land officially transferring from Fred to the new Jewish center for $10. The elder Trump also financed much of the construction costs, as the new house of worship was born a year later.

Trump and Wagner’s “mutual love, respect, and friendship only deepened over the next 48 years,” reads the synagogue website — where the story is prominently featured.

Inside a small synagogue archive, contemporary records and photos tell more of the story.

Trump never missed the synagogue's annual fundraiser dinner, which he attended throughout the 1970s and 80s — often cutting checks for $2,500 and $3,500.

Pristinely preserved black and white photos show a beaming Trump standing alongside Wagner, the man he called “my rabbi.”

The temple continued good relations with the Trump family even after Fred Trump’s death in 1999. When Wagner’s widow turned 90 in Israel in the mid-2010s, Donald Trump sent birthday wishes, according to Rabbi Silver.

Some older members still have memories of Fred Trump, and his sons Donald and Fred Jr., bouncing around the old family offices just down the street on Avenue Z.

New York Post