A Little Salvation story.

[Tothalordbeallglory]

Trump is not a christian - don't be fooled

If he is, it is the same capacity as Judas

FYI - i voted for Trump but he is a different person then when he was in his first Presidency

Spiritual discernment is real indeed my friend .
I seen this in trump even while he was running the first time for office .
By grace i knew the direction he was gonna take them .
Not to mention
HE sure did claim HE sat under norman vincent peale

 

[FreeInChrist]

Spiritual discernment is real indeed my friend .
I seen this in trump even while he was running the first time for office .
By grace i knew the direction he was gonna take them .
Not to mention
HE sure did claim HE sat under norman vincent peale

But in his first run he was far more different then the last one.

Everyone saw the difference.

He kept saying it was because God spared his life in Butler PA

And no one knows what he may have experienced after that. He is different.

But to switch from a mainline denomination to a non-denominational one
just truly bothers me... and I dont know why because I certainly garner
no affinity for the Presbyterian Church.

All we can do is wait and watch.

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

But in his first run he was far more different then the last one.

Everyone saw the difference.

He kept saying it was because God spared his life in Butler PA

And no one knows what he may have experienced after that. He is different.

But to switch from a mainline denomination to a non-denominational one
just truly bothers me... and I dont know why because I certainly garner
no affinity for the Presbyterian Church.

All we can do is wait and watch.

Even a muslim might say GOD spared his life, but we both know the god of the muslim
is that ol serpent .
Spirtual discernment is real . I saw the deception in Trump
long before he even got the party nomination the first time .
he aint fooling me . and neither is the liberal progressive realm .
Soon the nations will plead for peace and the solution
will bring blood against any and all who did not conform to this inclusive love god .
PERSECUTION IS COMING . ITS COMING for even the sheep who dwell in the western socities .
Mark them words well . Cause ITS COMING . the betrayal of the true sheep draws nigh
and our betrayer and betrayers will beleive the love god and its solution .

 

[FreeInChrist]

Even a muslim might say GOD spared his life, but we both know the god of the muslim
is that ol serpent .
Spirtual discernment is real . I saw the deception in Trump
long before he even got the party nomination the first time .
he aint fooling me . and neither is the liberal progressive realm .
Soon the nations will plead for peace and the solution
will bring blood against any and all who did not conform to this inclusive love god .
PERSECUTION IS COMING . ITS COMING for even the sheep who dwell in the western socities .
Mark them words well . Cause ITS COMING . the betrayal of the true sheep draws nigh
and our betrayer and betrayers will beleive the love god and its solution .

You are so right. I never saw the deception in Trump the first time because his personality
stayed the same. But what I see possibly happened was when the group of Evangelicals
got hold of him, I think it was in Chicago, and went to work on him... to secure the evangelical
vote... that bothered me because just like here... they all have differing beliefs.... so it was like
a "one" religion going to work on the man. "The end justifies the means" attitudes

Now, when he got shot I saw and change, beyond the change when he came running again.

He believes God saved him, and we cannot say He didn't. Afterall , throughout time God has used
whomever he choses to accomplish His means . We are getting some good now, and this one is far
better then what we would have had. However,

As you say..."ITS COMING . the betrayal of the true sheep draws nigh
and our betrayer and betrayers will believe the love god and its solution ."

And I pray there will be enough of us to fight in those trenches and not have been pulled off the
mark.... I only say that because even in this as well as other forums I have been on, I have observed
all too often a change in those who promote their beliefs and then a few months later seem to have
been pull off their course.

We cannot let that happen.

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

You are so right. I never saw the deception in Trump the first time because his personality
stayed the same. But what I see possibly happened was when the group of Evangelicals
got hold of him, I think it was in Chicago, and went to work on him... to secure the evangelical
vote... that bothered me because just like here... they all have differing beliefs.... so it was like
a "one" religion going to work on the man. "The end justifies the means" attitudes

Now, when he got shot I saw and change, beyond the change when he came running again.

He believes God saved him, and we cannot say He didn't. Afterall , throughout time God has used
whomever he choses to accomplish His means . We are getting some good now, and this one is far
better then what we would have had. However,

As you say..."ITS COMING . the betrayal of the true sheep draws nigh
and our betrayer and betrayers will believe the love god and its solution ."

And I pray there will be enough of us to fight in those trenches and not have been pulled off the
mark.... I only say that because even in this as well as other forums I have been on, I have observed
all too often a change in those who promote their beliefs and then a few months later seem to have
been pull off their course.

We cannot let that happen.

Of course my friend . We know GOD is in control . He even raised up pharoah
So yes i do know God spared trump that bullet . But we both know IT dont mean
its cause GOD approves of Him .
You wrote of the evangelicals and chicago .
YES that was surely seen .
But let us not also forget TRUMP was long influenced by norman vincent peale .
I notice that some within the Evangelical realm
will use the excuse , oh but trump is a baby christain .
Actually he is not a baby nor a christain . Way back , even years
before His run , HE knew also paula white and gravitated right into what she preached .
He has been under the influence of a form of christanity for many years .
The problem is , ITS BEEN the bad stuff , prosperity nar realm and other things .
The mans influence of what he thinks is christain , IS NOT christain .
You are correct my friend , we must warn and remind all . because the longer this goes on
i notice those subtile changes in folks who do go under the influence of that finding common ground stuff
and they get worse in time and more so as time goes on .
Its time for a major call to repentance to faith in Christ , to get back into the scriptures
to be learning .

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

You are so right. I never saw the deception in Trump the first time because his personality
stayed the same. But what I see possibly happened was when the group of Evangelicals
got hold of him, I think it was in Chicago, and went to work on him... to secure the evangelical
vote... that bothered me because just like here... they all have differing beliefs.... so it was like
a "one" religion going to work on the man. "The end justifies the means" attitudes

Now, when he got shot I saw and change, beyond the change when he came running again.

He believes God saved him, and we cannot say He didn't. Afterall , throughout time God has used
whomever he choses to accomplish His means . We are getting some good now, and this one is far
better then what we would have had. However,

As you say..."ITS COMING . the betrayal of the true sheep draws nigh
and our betrayer and betrayers will believe the love god and its solution ."

And I pray there will be enough of us to fight in those trenches and not have been pulled off the
mark.... I only say that because even in this as well as other forums I have been on, I have observed
all too often a change in those who promote their beliefs and then a few months later seem to have
been pull off their course.

We cannot let that happen.

read that very last sentence you wrote .
We cannot let that happen .
And now a reminder , GET TO THE TRENCHES ONE and ALL
we must contend for the true faith , its correction time in the building . Armour on and foward march .

 

[David Koberstein]

Lets find out who understands..what ISNT Salvation.

Here is a little story.

Its a nice Spring morning, and a Catholic Priest, in a Local Perish in Midville USA, has just finished laying out 2 sets of "baptismal" robes and 2 large white towels, right after He filled up the baptismal pool with water and then heated it with the flip of a switch.

He then steps outside, and looking around he sees a street-person, homeless, that he's seen many times.
The Priest gets his attention, and says.....>"Friend, do you want to go to Heaven when you die".
The street person is surprised by this question, but immediately says.....>"yes i do, father."
The Priest says......ok, come on inside the Church.

Its now 10 mins later and now both the Priest and the Homeless man are wearing the Church's supplied "baptimal robes"..

The Priest now leads the barefoot Homeless man into the warm baptimal waters and begins to lower the homeless man down into the water so that He is submerged.
And while lowering Him, the Priest says outloud, loudly, so that the man can hear...>>"i baptize you in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit".....and then he brings the homeless man back up, and then both go quietly to the dry towels and the fresh robes...

10 mins later the Priest walks the Homeless man to the door of the Chruch, and as the man is leaving the Priest says......Congratulations, you are now a Chrisitan, your sins are all forgiven, and you are going to Heaven.
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A.) Reader.......... if you believe that this Homeless man is now a Christian and will go to Heaven, then you are truly deceived by a Cult.

My brother is a born again believer and is Catholic. I don't know if your trying to be offensive to the Catholic church or not.
We sometimes see the same story line within evangelical churches. So what is your point?

Shalom

 

[David Koberstein]

Of course my friend . We know GOD is in control . He even raised up pharoah
So yes i do know God spared trump that bullet . But we both know IT dont mean
its cause GOD approves of Him .
You wrote of the evangelicals and chicago .
YES that was surely seen .
But let us not also forget TRUMP was long influenced by norman vincent peale .
I notice that some within the Evangelical realm
will use the excuse , oh but trump is a baby christain .
Actually he is not a baby nor a christain . Way back , even years
before His run , HE knew also paula white and gravitated right into what she preached .
He has been under the influence of a form of christanity for many years .
The problem is , ITS BEEN the bad stuff , prosperity nar realm and other things .
The mans influence of what he thinks is christain , IS NOT christain .
You are correct my friend , we must warn and remind all . because the longer this goes on
i notice those subtile changes in folks who do go under the influence of that finding common ground stuff
and they get worse in time and more so as time goes on .
Its time for a major call to repentance to faith in Christ , to get back into the scriptures
to be learning .

From a Jewish perspective Trump has similar characteristic's as King David. Trump has been an utmost
blessing to the Jewish people.

Shalom