FreeinChrist said: No one ever claimed Jesus was the Father.
Perhaps we should blow it up more and say the Father was His Mother.... Who was his mother.... why Wisdom of course.
You think that is silly
Isaiah did! Isaiah 9:6: "For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; ... (this is Jesus) And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, ..."
No more so then your misinterpreting Isaiah 9:6
This verse is not a Trinitarian formula that calls Jesus Christ the Father.
Actually, it is easier to grasp the idea when the phrase is rendered literally into English,
“Father of eternity.”
The first part of verse six makes reference to the incarnation of Jesus.
The part that lists the names by which He is called expresses His relationship to His people.
He is to us the Wonderful Counselor, the Mighty God, the Father of Eternity, the Prince of Peace. Considered in this way, we see that
Jesus is the One who gives us eternal life. By His death, burial, and resurrection, He has brought life and immortality to light.
Truly, He is the Father of eternity for His people.
The name “Father of eternity” indicates that, as a loving father provides for His children, so Jesus loves us and has provided for us by giving us everlasting life.
Is there a Bible contradiction in Isaiah 9:6? Here’s the solution from When Critics Ask by Geisler and Howe; used by permission.
defendinginerrancy.com
God Himself called His Son "God". Hebrews 1:8 and 9.
Well if the Holy Spirit is God and the Father is God and there is a Trinity then the Son would be God... but the three are not
one single unit....
Maybe I can explain this way...
have you ever watched a long standing show on TV where they have a certain character that is with the show from episode 1 to the end, over many many years.
Have you ever seen the actor playing that certain character be changed, sometime 2 or 3 times?
the one that is coming to mind you may be too young to know or maybe never watched but it was a nighttime soap
called Dallas, from 1978 to 1990 The matriarch of the family was Misss Ellie Ewing.... I
It started out with Barbara Bel Geddes playing the role(1978–1984, 1985–1990), then
then Donna Reed came to play her very briefly , (1984–1985), and also
Molly Hagan (1986)
If you were watching an interview with any of these you rightfully could say "Oh, Miss Ellie."
Then seeing another of the three on a different show you rightfully could say "Ah, there's Miss Ellie
Finally moths later you see the last one doing a commercial for something and you can say "I saw Miss Ellie
talking about whatever today.
Why... Because all 3 women were individuals yet all three women were Miss Ellie.
If you want a sports analogy think of Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce and JuJu Smith-Schuster
and you were watching a presentation of several pro-ball players from other teams and you hear the announcer say and identify which team each belonged and you hear....There is Patrick Mahomes Kansas City Chief. Arron Rodgers current quarterback Pittsburgh Steeler, Travis Kelce Kansas City Chief, JuJu Smith-Shuster Kansas City Chief, Andre Szmyt Clevland Brown
Noting that the singular name for each team is because each player is identified by them selves... but then you count three names for the Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick is a Chief, Kelce is a Chief and JuJu is a Chief.
3separate people are identified as being a Chief. That does not mean that all three of these men are on in the same, but the name/title covers all three individuals.
And if this does not make it for you back to the beginning
I believe that the best way to talk about the Trinity is to simply say that God is one God, who eternally exists in three Persons. These three Persons are all equally God and all equally Persons. Yet there is only one God.
So the author of Hebrews also believed the Son was also God the Father.
