Your Views on The Trinity

[Peterlag]

A lot of people have an ideological framework they understand the Bible with. Trinitarianism assumes a Trinity first then attaches Bible verses to it next. It's just projection of beliefs that only they can see rather than letting the Bible intrepret itself.

That would explain why they can only see it and not me. Why they tell me I'm blind if I can't see it.

 

[Runningman]

That would explain why they can only see it and not me. Why they tell me I'm blind if I can't see it.

I am sure they will be happy to tell you you're blind in a heartbeat. Surprised if none of them have said to you yet.

I know a Trinitarian who surprised me when he said "The Trinity is not taught in the Bible, it is revealed" which is non-sensical and kind of like saying "unicorn traffic laws are not taught in the DMV, but are revealed." I have no doubt the authors who penned the Bible would be rolling in their grave if they knew what the Trinitarians had did with Jesus' Christianity.

 

[dwight92070]

Things that are not mentioned in the Bible...

There's no cars
There's no television
There's no computers
Jesus is not God is also not mentioned

You are correct: "Jesus is not God" is not mentioned in the Bible. Rather it says that Jesus IS God. I'm glad you finally agree with me.

 

[dwight92070]

I am sure they will be happy to tell you you're blind in a heartbeat. Surprised if none of them have said to you yet.

I know a Trinitarian who surprised me when he said "The Trinity is not taught in the Bible, it is revealed" which is non-sensical and kind of like saying "unicorn traffic laws are not taught in the DMV, but are revealed." I have no doubt the authors who penned the Bible would be rolling in their grave if they knew what the Trinitarians had did with Jesus' Christianity.

You mean "had done with Jesus' Christianity, not "had did". Not only do you not know that Jesus is God, but you also don't know English grammar.

 

[synergy]

You are correct: "Jesus is not God" is not mentioned in the Bible. Rather it says that Jesus IS God. I'm glad you finally agree with me.

Touché! @Peterlag has finally come to his senses by acknowledging his unitarian heresy is not in the Bible.

 

[JLB]

I am the Alpha and the Omega,’ says the Lord God.” These words apply to God, not to Christ.

These words are written in red in most bibles and refer to Jesus Christ.


“And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”
Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.
“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.”
Revelation 22:12-13


Who is coming quickly ?

The Father or the Son?

 

[DavidTree]

I am sure they will be happy to tell you you're blind in a heartbeat. Surprised if none of them have said to you yet.

I know a Trinitarian who surprised me when he said "The Trinity is not taught in the Bible, it is revealed" which is non-sensical and kind of like saying "unicorn traffic laws are not taught in the DMV, but are revealed." I have no doubt the authors who penned the Bible would be rolling in their grave if they knew what the Trinitarians had did with Jesus' Christianity.

"The Trinity is not taught in the Bible, it is revealed

Nothing wrong with that statement.

Jesus taught the disciples thru parables that required the understanding to be revealed from the Lord Jesus.

As a matter of fact, the Bible teaches that we need the Holy Spirit in order to have Truth revealed to us.

As a matter of fact, the Apostle Paul prayed that God would reveal Truth to the people he was teaching.

As a matter of fact = Matthew 11:25
At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes.

 

[Runningman]

You mean "had done with Jesus' Christianity, not "had did". Not only do you not know that Jesus is God, but you also don't know English grammar.

The fact that you knew what I meant shows me you understood my point. The point still stands, too. Trinitarianism is textbook eisgesis of the worst kind.

 

[Runningman]

These words are written in red in most bibles and refer to Jesus Christ.


“And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”
Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.
“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.”
Revelation 22:12-13


Who is coming quickly ?

The Father or the Son?

God will bring Jesus back.

1 Thess. 4
14For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him.

 

[Runningman]

You are correct: "Jesus is not God" is not mentioned in the Bible. Rather it says that Jesus IS God. I'm glad you finally agree with me.

The Bible doesn't say "Jesus is God."

 

[DavidTree]

The fact that you knew what I meant shows you me understood my point. The point still stands, too. Trinitarianism is textbook eisgesis of the worst kind.

Trinitarianism is not in the Bible

This is from the very Beginning of the Bible
Elohim said Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness

Like the disciples/apostles, you need to pray for 'revelation' from the Lord Jesus Christ

 

[Runningman]

Trinitarianism is not in the Bible

This is from the very Beginning of the Bible
Elohim said Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness

Like the disciples/apostles, you need to pray for 'revelation' from the Lord Jesus Christ

But the "Us" isn't specified to be God in that context. The next verse uses a singular pronoun for God: Genesis 1:28 "So God created man in His own image;"

 

[DavidTree]

But the "Us" isn't specified to be God in that context. The next verse uses a singular pronoun for God: Genesis 1:28 "So God created man in His own image;"

The "Us" in fact is specified to be Elohim for it is Elohim who is speaking

Genesis 1:26 - Then Elohim said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;"

 

[Peterlag]

These words are written in red in most bibles and refer to Jesus Christ.


“And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”
Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.
“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.”
Revelation 22:12-13


Who is coming quickly ?

The Father or the Son?

The phrase designate the whole of anything from the beginning to the end.

"All comes through Christ, from the beginning to the end. He is the channel, not the source or the object of all things. When entering into the world, he said, "Lo... I am arriving to do thy will oh God." (Hebrews10:7). This is one of his most gracious glories. Let us not rob Christ of it by making him identical with God in this regard. He will vanish if we do. The Christ cannot be conceived with a will of equal force with the Father. "not my will, but Thine" is the illuminating flash which reveals the relation existing between the will of Christ and his God."
A.E. Knoch - Christ and Deity (Edition 2.0)

 

[Peterlag]

You are correct: "Jesus is not God" is not mentioned in the Bible. Rather it says that Jesus IS God. I'm glad you finally agree with me.

You're missing the point again. The reason the words "Jesus is not God" cannot be found in the Bible is because Jesus is not God.

 

[Peterlag]

I am sure they will be happy to tell you you're blind in a heartbeat. Surprised if none of them have said to you yet.

I know a Trinitarian who surprised me when he said "The Trinity is not taught in the Bible, it is revealed" which is non-sensical and kind of like saying "unicorn traffic laws are not taught in the DMV, but are revealed." I have no doubt the authors who penned the Bible would be rolling in their grave if they knew what the Trinitarians had did with Jesus' Christianity.

I can top that. I had a guy say when Jesus was praying to God it was the...

Son God praying to the Father God.

 

[mikesw]

You're missing the point again. The reason the words "Jesus is not God" cannot be found in the Bible is because Jesus is not God.

oh no. the hyper-literalism fails on this point. the hyper-literalist needs it to be stated in the bible.