Your Views on The Trinity

[Peterlag]

Last I checked, John 2:19-21 is still in the Bible.

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Jun 6, 2025

Theological Dictionary of the New Testament (TDNT): The idea of the self-resurrection of Jesus is first found in Johannine theology (Jn. 2:19, 21; 10:17, 18) (2:335, egeirō, Oepke).

Here's another:

New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology (NIDNTT): The resurrection of Jesus is not described only with God as subject and Jesus as object; the vb. may be taken in rans. in the middle voice with Jesus as subject, i.e. "he arose from the dead" (e.g. Rom. 6:4, 9; 8:34, and especially in the Synoptics, Mk. 14:28; 16:6; Matt. 27:63). This change in usage shows that while the...

• Fred

Yep, that's your 1 verse. The other 50 or 60 that say God rose Christ you ignore.

 

[Runningman]

Already did.

Where did anyone say anything about Jesus resurrecting himself after he died?

Looks like Paul and all of the disciples went around the entire Roman empire teaching everyone that someone other than Jesus resurrected Jesus. They all agree with me.

 

[Fred]

Yep, that's your 1 verse.

That's all I need.

The other 50 or 60 that say God rose Christ you ignore.

Which does not contradict that one verse.


Both are true.

 

[mikesw]

[Edited] Yep, that's your 10 verses. The other 50 or 60 that say God rose Christ you ignore.

Peterlag had accidentally forgot to as the 0 after the 1. Fred's findings point to 10 verses, if I counted right. Of course, some were a bit more direct and clear than others.