Your Views on The Trinity

I cannot find one single biblical verse that clearly teaches that we should believe or confess that Jesus is God. Nor has there ever been a teaching on it anywhere in the Bible. A teaching... a whole paragraph or chapter. The Jews never saw it anywhere in the entire Old Testament nor anyone in the New Testament ever taught it. Trinitarians piece together statements that are scattered all over the Bible. They basically use bits and pieces of words and half verses along with their own human reasoning, imagination, speculation and assumptions as they pick one verse here, and another verse there, a hint here, and a clue there, and then they construct their "own God" which is the product of their own human thinking. This is why they cannot present one single biblical verse that clearly teaches that we should believe or confess that Jesus is God.
Or any of the above.

And let me tell you Peter. I do not want you to confess that Jesus is God.

And when you see Titus, below... get out your marker or whiteout so you can erase it from your bible... along with Isaiah,

You do not believe John.... Fine... let's throw out John along with James....

John 1:1​

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
This verse introduces the concept of the “Word” (logos), identifying it as preexisting with God from the beginning and also being divine in nature. It establishes the eternal existence and divine identity of Jesus Christ as the Word.
John 1:14
And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.
I am not wasting my time explaining to you about when He became flesh. For you do not have the ability to understand.
but to me This verse declares that the Word, who was with God and was God from the beginning, became flesh and dwelt among humanity. It affirms the miraculous reality of the Incarnation, wherein the eternal Word took on human form and lived among us.

John 10:30​

“I and My Father are one.”

In this verse, Jesus declares, “I and the Father are one,” affirming His divine unity with God the Father. He claims equality with God, expressing the inseparable union between Himself and the Father.

Uh oh........ golly jeepers....... should we toss out Colossians also?

Colossians 2:9​

“For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;”

This verse emphasizes that in Jesus Christ, the fullness of the Godhead resides in bodily form. It asserts the complete and perfect union of divinity and humanity in Jesus, affirming His identity as fully God and fully human.

Studying Colossians 2:9 is crucial for grasping the profound truth of the Incarnation—that in Jesus Christ, God took on human flesh.

It reaffirms the core Christian doctrine of the hypostatic union, which teaches that Jesus possesses both divine and human natures united in one person.

Understanding this verse deepens our appreciation for the mystery of God’s incarnation and underscores the significance of Jesus’s redemptive work on behalf of humanity.


Well, let's add Philippians onto the pile above, okay?

Philippians 2:6​

“Who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,”

This verse describes Jesus Christ as existing in the very nature of God, yet willingly choosing humility and obedience by not exploiting His equality with God for selfish gain. It underscores Jesus’s divine nature and His voluntary self-emptying to take on human form.

Studying Philippians 2:6 illuminates the character of Jesus Christ as both divine and humble. It challenges us to emulate His example of selflessness and obedience, even in the face of great privilege and authority.

This verse also reinforces the biblical teaching on the nature of Christ, affirming His preexistence, deity, and sacrificial love for humanity.

Understanding Philippians 2:6 deepens our reverence for Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and inspires us to follow His example of humility and service in our lives.

Hebrews 1:8​

But to the Son He says: ‘Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.'”

This verse quotes from Psalm 45:6, addressing the Son as “O God,” affirming His divine nature and eternal reign. It declares the Son’s sovereignty and everlasting authority, emphasizing His divine status and preeminence.

Studying Hebrews 1:8 reinforces the biblical teaching on the deity of Jesus Christ. It provides clear evidence from the Old Testament that the Son is addressed as God, affirming His equality with the Father. Understanding this verse deepens our understanding of Jesus’s divine identity and reinforces our confidence in His eternal reign as Lord and King.

Titus 2:13​

“looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,”

In this verse, believers are encouraged to eagerly await the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ. It identifies Jesus Christ as both “our great God” and “Savior,” affirming His divine nature and role in redemption.

Studying Titus 2:13 underscores the deity of Jesus Christ and His central role in the Christian faith. It affirms that Jesus is not only our Savior but also our great God, emphasizing His divine authority and majesty.

This verse instills hope and anticipation in believers as we await the glorious return of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Understanding Titus 2:13 deepens our devotion to Jesus and reinforces our confidence in His promise to return and establish His eternal kingdom.

Isaiah 9:6​

“For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”
Isaiah 9:6 prophesies about the birth of a child who will hold the government upon his shoulders. The verse describes the child with several divine titles: Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, and Prince of Peace. This prophecy points to the Messiah, Jesus Christ, and highlights His divine nature and role as the Savior of humanity.

Studying Isaiah 9:6 reveals the Messianic prophecy fulfilled in Jesus Christ. It emphasizes Jesus’s deity and His attributes as the source of wisdom, strength, eternal life, and peace.

Understanding this verse deepens our appreciation for the significance of Jesus’s birth and His mission to reconcile humanity to God. It strengthens our faith in Jesus as the promised Messiah and encourages us to rely on Him as our Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, and Prince of Peace.

Matthew 1:23​

“Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

Matthew 1:23 quotes the prophecy from Isaiah 7:14, affirming that the virgin will conceive and bear a son, who will be called Immanuel, meaning “God with us.” This verse highlights the miraculous nature of Jesus’s birth and emphasizes His divine identity as God incarnate.
Studying Matthew 1:23 underscores the miraculous conception of Jesus Christ and His unique role as God dwelling among humanity.

It affirms Jesus’s deity
and His intimate presence with His people. Understanding this verse deepens our understanding of the Incarnation—the central mystery of the Christian faith—and reinforces our confidence in Jesus as the promised Messiah who brings salvation and reconciliation.

It also reminds us of the profound truth that God is not distant or unreachable but intimately present with us through Jesus Christ, our Immanuel.

Romans 9:5​

“of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.”

Romans 9:5 declares that Christ is God over all, forever praised. This concise statement affirms the deity of Jesus Christ, emphasizing His eternal nature, authority, and sovereignty over all creation.

Studying Romans 9:5 reinforces the biblical teaching on the divinity of Jesus Christ. It provides a clear declaration of Jesus’s deity, underscoring His equality with God the Father and the Holy Spirit.

Understanding this verse deepens our faith in Jesus as the divine Son of God and reinforces our worship and praise of Him as the one true God. It also strengthens our confidence in His power to save and reign over all creation for eternity.

Revelation 1:8​

“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Revelation 1:8 contains a proclamation from the Lord God, identifying Himself as the Alpha and the Omega, the one who is, who was, and who is to come—the Almighty.

This verse emphasizes God’s eternal existence, omnipotence, and sovereign authority over all time and space.
Studying Revelation 1:8 reveals the majestic nature of God as the eternal and omnipotent Creator. It underscores His sovereignty over all things, past, present, and future.

Understanding this verse deepens our reverence for God and strengthens our trust in His unfailing power and faithfulness. It reminds us that God is the ultimate source of hope and security, deserving of our worship and adoration.

@Peterlag

The Bible unequivocally proclaims the divinity of Jesus Christ through various passages that highlight His eternal existence, divine attributes, and unique relationship with God the Father.

Understanding these scriptures enriches our faith, deepens our relationship with Jesus, and reinforces the core tenet of Christianity: that in Christ, God became flesh to dwell among us, offering redemption and eternal life.

Here is an offer for you.

If you DM me, I will give you my phone number and you can call me and I will read and explain each of these passages to you,
because I do not think you understand what you read.... or possibly you never read anything posted that would prove you are in error.

If that be the case... make sure to white out the above passages so you are not led astray by accident in the future.

I had a veyr wise theologian many years ago say if you have a bible that you cannot make notes in and mark it as you are studying, put it aside and get one that you can. That is my advice to you.
 
God will bring Jesus back.

1 Thess. 4
14For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him.

Yes The Father is not the Son, and the Son is not the Father.

Now please address the scriptures I posted and answer my question.


Jesus is the Alpha and Omega; the Almighty.


These words are written in red in most bibles and refer to Jesus Christ.


And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”
Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.
“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star
.”
Revelation 22:12-13


Who is coming quickly ?

The Father or the Son?
 
The phrase designate the whole of anything from the beginning to the end.

"All comes through Christ, from the beginning to the end. He is the channel, not the source or the object of all things. When entering into the world, he said, "Lo... I am arriving to do thy will oh God." (Hebrews10:7). This is one of his most gracious glories. Let us not rob Christ of it by making him identical with God in this regard. He will vanish if we do. The Christ cannot be conceived with a will of equal force with the Father. "not my will, but Thine" is the illuminating flash which reveals the relation existing between the will of Christ and his God."
A.E. Knoch - Christ and Deity (Edition 2.0)

Scripture sir. Use scripture.

Your word salad and your reference to commentary in the face of undeniable and irrefutably truth is useless.

The scriptures plainly and clearly show what you deny.

Jesus Christ is LORD; The Alpha and Omega, the Almighty.


These words are written in red in most bibles and refer to Jesus Christ.


And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”
Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.
“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star
.”
Revelation 22:12-13


Who is coming quickly ?

The Father or the Son?
 
Scripture sir. Use scripture.

Your word salad and your reference to commentary in the face of undeniable and irrefutably truth is useless.

The scriptures plainly and clearly show what you deny.

Jesus Christ is LORD; The Alpha and Omega, the Almighty.


These words are written in red in most bibles and refer to Jesus Christ.


And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”
Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.
“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star
.”
Revelation 22:12-13


Who is coming quickly ?

The Father or the Son?
What you're not getting and no Scripture can help you until you realize how to read Scripture. Jesus is the beginning and the end of his reference. He is not the beginning and the end of God's reference.
 
Or any of the above.

And let me tell you Peter. I do not want you to confess that Jesus is God.

And when you see Titus, below... get out your marker or whiteout so you can erase it from your bible... along with Isaiah,

You do not believe John.... Fine... let's throw out John along with James....

John 1:1​

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
This verse introduces the concept of the “Word” (logos), identifying it as preexisting with God from the beginning and also being divine in nature. It establishes the eternal existence and divine identity of Jesus Christ as the Word.
John 1:14
And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.
I am not wasting my time explaining to you about when He became flesh. For you do not have the ability to understand.
but to me This verse declares that the Word, who was with God and was God from the beginning, became flesh and dwelt among humanity. It affirms the miraculous reality of the Incarnation, wherein the eternal Word took on human form and lived among us.

John 10:30​

“I and My Father are one.”

In this verse, Jesus declares, “I and the Father are one,” affirming His divine unity with God the Father. He claims equality with God, expressing the inseparable union between Himself and the Father.

Uh oh........ golly jeepers....... should we toss out Colossians also?

Colossians 2:9​

“For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;”

This verse emphasizes that in Jesus Christ, the fullness of the Godhead resides in bodily form. It asserts the complete and perfect union of divinity and humanity in Jesus, affirming His identity as fully God and fully human.

Studying Colossians 2:9 is crucial for grasping the profound truth of the Incarnation—that in Jesus Christ, God took on human flesh.

It reaffirms the core Christian doctrine of the hypostatic union, which teaches that Jesus possesses both divine and human natures united in one person.

Understanding this verse deepens our appreciation for the mystery of God’s incarnation and underscores the significance of Jesus’s redemptive work on behalf of humanity.


Well, let's add Philippians onto the pile above, okay?

Philippians 2:6​

“Who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,”

This verse describes Jesus Christ as existing in the very nature of God, yet willingly choosing humility and obedience by not exploiting His equality with God for selfish gain. It underscores Jesus’s divine nature and His voluntary self-emptying to take on human form.

Studying Philippians 2:6 illuminates the character of Jesus Christ as both divine and humble. It challenges us to emulate His example of selflessness and obedience, even in the face of great privilege and authority.

This verse also reinforces the biblical teaching on the nature of Christ, affirming His preexistence, deity, and sacrificial love for humanity.

Understanding Philippians 2:6 deepens our reverence for Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and inspires us to follow His example of humility and service in our lives.

Hebrews 1:8​

But to the Son He says: ‘Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.'”

This verse quotes from Psalm 45:6, addressing the Son as “O God,” affirming His divine nature and eternal reign. It declares the Son’s sovereignty and everlasting authority, emphasizing His divine status and preeminence.

Studying Hebrews 1:8 reinforces the biblical teaching on the deity of Jesus Christ. It provides clear evidence from the Old Testament that the Son is addressed as God, affirming His equality with the Father. Understanding this verse deepens our understanding of Jesus’s divine identity and reinforces our confidence in His eternal reign as Lord and King.

Titus 2:13​

“looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,”

In this verse, believers are encouraged to eagerly await the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ. It identifies Jesus Christ as both “our great God” and “Savior,” affirming His divine nature and role in redemption.

Studying Titus 2:13 underscores the deity of Jesus Christ and His central role in the Christian faith. It affirms that Jesus is not only our Savior but also our great God, emphasizing His divine authority and majesty.

This verse instills hope and anticipation in believers as we await the glorious return of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Understanding Titus 2:13 deepens our devotion to Jesus and reinforces our confidence in His promise to return and establish His eternal kingdom.

Isaiah 9:6​

“For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”
Isaiah 9:6 prophesies about the birth of a child who will hold the government upon his shoulders. The verse describes the child with several divine titles: Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, and Prince of Peace. This prophecy points to the Messiah, Jesus Christ, and highlights His divine nature and role as the Savior of humanity.

Studying Isaiah 9:6 reveals the Messianic prophecy fulfilled in Jesus Christ. It emphasizes Jesus’s deity and His attributes as the source of wisdom, strength, eternal life, and peace.

Understanding this verse deepens our appreciation for the significance of Jesus’s birth and His mission to reconcile humanity to God. It strengthens our faith in Jesus as the promised Messiah and encourages us to rely on Him as our Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, and Prince of Peace.

Matthew 1:23​

“Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

Matthew 1:23 quotes the prophecy from Isaiah 7:14, affirming that the virgin will conceive and bear a son, who will be called Immanuel, meaning “God with us.” This verse highlights the miraculous nature of Jesus’s birth and emphasizes His divine identity as God incarnate.
Studying Matthew 1:23 underscores the miraculous conception of Jesus Christ and His unique role as God dwelling among humanity.

It affirms Jesus’s deity
and His intimate presence with His people. Understanding this verse deepens our understanding of the Incarnation—the central mystery of the Christian faith—and reinforces our confidence in Jesus as the promised Messiah who brings salvation and reconciliation.

It also reminds us of the profound truth that God is not distant or unreachable but intimately present with us through Jesus Christ, our Immanuel.

Romans 9:5​

“of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.”

Romans 9:5 declares that Christ is God over all, forever praised. This concise statement affirms the deity of Jesus Christ, emphasizing His eternal nature, authority, and sovereignty over all creation.

Studying Romans 9:5 reinforces the biblical teaching on the divinity of Jesus Christ. It provides a clear declaration of Jesus’s deity, underscoring His equality with God the Father and the Holy Spirit.

Understanding this verse deepens our faith in Jesus as the divine Son of God and reinforces our worship and praise of Him as the one true God. It also strengthens our confidence in His power to save and reign over all creation for eternity.

Revelation 1:8​

“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Revelation 1:8 contains a proclamation from the Lord God, identifying Himself as the Alpha and the Omega, the one who is, who was, and who is to come—the Almighty.

This verse emphasizes God’s eternal existence, omnipotence, and sovereign authority over all time and space.
Studying Revelation 1:8 reveals the majestic nature of God as the eternal and omnipotent Creator. It underscores His sovereignty over all things, past, present, and future.

Understanding this verse deepens our reverence for God and strengthens our trust in His unfailing power and faithfulness. It reminds us that God is the ultimate source of hope and security, deserving of our worship and adoration.

@Peterlag

The Bible unequivocally proclaims the divinity of Jesus Christ through various passages that highlight His eternal existence, divine attributes, and unique relationship with God the Father.

Understanding these scriptures enriches our faith, deepens our relationship with Jesus, and reinforces the core tenet of Christianity: that in Christ, God became flesh to dwell among us, offering redemption and eternal life.

Here is an offer for you.

If you DM me, I will give you my phone number and you can call me and I will read and explain each of these passages to you,
because I do not think you understand what you read.... or possibly you never read anything posted that would prove you are in error.

If that be the case... make sure to white out the above passages so you are not led astray by accident in the future.

I had a veyr wise theologian many years ago say if you have a bible that you cannot make notes in and mark it as you are studying, put it aside and get one that you can. That is my advice to you.
appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ refers to 2 different living creatures. Me and my wife means there's 2 of us. Me and my wife does not mean me and my wife who is me. This should have been taught in second grade.
 
appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ refers to 2 different living creatures. Me and my wife means there's 2 of us. Me and my wife does not mean me and my wife who is me. This should have been taught in second grade.
Well, I do find your deflections amusing.
 
What you're not getting and no Scripture can help you until you realize how to read Scripture. Jesus is the beginning and the end of his reference. He is not the beginning and the end of God's reference.

Again, you use no scripture.


Here’s what the scripture plainly says.

And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.
Revelation 22:13


I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Revelation 1:8

This is who Jesus Christ is.

Very simple and straightforward.

No mention of “reference”.


Adding your words to scripture is how you deceive yourself.
 
The fall of Satan from heaven has become deeply entrenched in Christian thought, but the origins of the Devil are not found anywhere in the Bible. In fact, Satan is not even used as a proper name in the Old Testament. Instead, the Hebrew ha satan is a title meaning simply “the adversary.” The Devil is not truly named and Hell not really described until the New Testament.
If the Bible were approached as a piece of literature, Satan would feature as a major antagonist in the New Testament. Contrary to popular Christian belief, however, the Devil is not present in the Old Testament, at least not as Christians would understand him.
The serpent in the Garden of Eden is one of only two talking animals in the Bible. This cunning snake is the cause of the original sin and the first troublemaker. Considering that this reptile is the one who throws a monkey wrench in God’s plan for creation, most Christians believe that the serpent was none other than Satan. Unfortunately for this long and deeply held belief, there is absolutely nothing in the Bible to back up this idea.
Keep reading/studying Scripture on satan/devil/angels

It is all there for anyone to read and see and believe.
 
Boy, that shoots down a lot of beliefs. Other things not in the bible that people believe.

The Rapture.” While the idea of believers being caught up with Christ is present (1 Thessalonians 4:17), the term “Rapture” and the detailed end-time scenario often associated with it are not explicitly outlined in Scripture. The word “rapture” does not occur in the Word of God.

The Notion That the Redeemed Go to “Heaven“: Many people believe that righteous souls will end up in “heaven,” a spiritual realm. However, the Bible doesn’t explicitly say that human souls go to heaven upon death. The concept appears to be a later theological development, particularly popularized in the Middle Ages.

The Belief in a Personal Divine Plan: The Bible doesn’t consistently speak of individualized, divine plans for each person. While Jeremiah 29:11 mentions “plans,” this is in the context of God’s plan for Israel and foretells the coming of the Messiah.

Immaculate Conception.” This term is often used to describe the virgin birth of Jesus, but it actually refers to the Roman Catholic doctrine concerning the conception of Mary without original sin, a doctrine not found in the Bible.

Three Wise Men.” The Bible does not specify the number of magi who visited Jesus. Matthew 2 simply states that “wise men from the east” came, but doesn’t enumerate them.

Personal Relationship with Jesus.” While the New Testament speaks volumes about faith in Christ and walking in His ways, the specific phrase “personal relationship with Jesus” is not used in the Bible.
You know who did not know this? Pope Francis. It is recorded he did say "a personal relationship with Jesus is dangerous"
I can provide the transcript if you doubt me.

Guardian Angels.” While angels do appear throughout the Bible and are said to be “ministering spirits” (Hebrews 1:14), the idea that each individual has a personal guardian angel doesn’t find explicit support in Scripture.

Satan Was Once Lucifer

The fall of Satan from heaven has become deeply entrenched in Christian thought, but the origins of the Devil are not found anywhere in the Bible. In fact, Satan is not even used as a proper name in the Old Testament. Instead, the Hebrew ha satan is a title meaning simply “the adversary.” The Devil is not truly named and Hell not really described until the New Testament.

Satan the Serpent

The serpent in the Garden of Eden is one of only two talking animals in the Bible. This cunning snake is the cause of the original sin and the first troublemaker. Considering that this reptile is the one who throws a monkey wrench in God’s plan for creation, most Christians believe that the serpent was none other than Satan. Unfortunately for this long and deeply held belief, there is absolutely nothing in the Bible to back up this idea. The snake is simply a snake in Genesis. It is a crafty creature who causes a great deal of trouble, but it is never described as the Devil. The belief that it was Satan came later. In Genesis 3:14, God even addresses the snake as simply a snake. He curses the snake to “crawl on [its] belly” and “eat dust all the days of [its] life.” Never does God give any hint that the serpent was ever more than a reptilian trickster.


The Seven Archangels

Christian bookstores and blogs are both full of information about the various archangels. Most writings claim that there are seven, but which angels make the cut varies between authors. This popular belief in seven archangels is not Biblically based. The only angel every described as an archangel in the canonical Bible is Michael. The other so-called archangels are never labeled as such. Frankly, some of the angels commonly listed as archangels are never named in the Bible at all much less described as archangels.

Tortures of Hell

Many Christians can list the varying tortures that await those who commit different sins. Blasphemers, for example, will have their tongues cut out. The specific torments of Hell, however, are never listed in the Bible. The New Testament describes Hell as “a lake of fire” and a land “where the fire never goes out.” These descriptions, while viscerally unnerving, are rather vague. There is no itemized list of “those who do A, will suffer B.” The New Testament has no such if-then statements about specific horrors in Hell. More specific descriptions of Hell’s layout and tortures are found in fiction and poetry such as Dante Alighieri’s “Divine Comedy.”

Sheol is Hell

The New Testament has only vague descriptions of Hell, but the Old Testament does not even mention Hell. Sheol is sometimes assumed to be the Old Testament’s word for Hell, but this is a common misconception. Sheol is simply the grave or the abode of the dead, not unlike the Underworld of Greek mythology of Helheim in Norse mythology. Sheol is not a place of torment. It is simply where the dead go after they die. Good and evil both end up in Sheol in the Old Testament, though later books in the Old Testament do reveal that the dead will at some point be resurrected.

Satan in the Old Testament

If the Bible were approached as a piece of literature, Satan would feature as a major antagonist in the New Testament. Contrary to popular Christian belief, however, the Devil is not present in the Old Testament, at least not as Christians would understand him.

I'LL STOP, BUT YOU GET THE IDEA.

Not every belief is in the bible..... Not every believe word is either.
This was not quite the direction I was suggesting. You probably could do better by posting parts of this as new discussions since many points being shared will likely draw some different discussions on the degree of scripture support.

I was not quite clear on my point. Basically for the unitarian to be a consistent hyper-literalist, the assertion that Jesus is not God would have to be explicit in scripture.
 
The "Us" in fact is specified to be Elohim for it is Elohim who is speaking

Genesis 1:26 - Then Elohim said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;"
Us isn't about a plurality of persons creating. Scripture is more than clear that God is one person named YHWH (the Father) who created alone. That's why God is always referred to with singular pronouns. You won't find a "they" or "them" or "us" describing God in the Bible.

Look, a singular person is explicitly said to have created "alone." There is no "We" with God. Not "Us" with God.

It says I"

Isaiah 44
24Thus says Yahweh, your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb,
“I, Yahweh, am the maker of all things,
Stretching out the heavens by Myself

And spreading out the earth all alone,
 
Scripture sir. Use scripture.

Your word salad and your reference to commentary in the face of undeniable and irrefutably truth is useless.

The scriptures plainly and clearly show what you deny.

Jesus Christ is LORD; The Alpha and Omega, the Almighty.


These words are written in red in most bibles and refer to Jesus Christ.


And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”
Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.
“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star
.”
Revelation 22:12-13


Who is coming quickly ?

The Father or the Son?
That's Jesus who will be brought by God, quickly. That's why I showed you 1 Thess. 4:14. Just to show you Jesus is not returning under his own power. Jesus was taken or carried to heaven (Luke 24:51) and will return in the same way by being brought back (Acts 1:11, 1 Thess. 4:14)
 
Us isn't about a plurality of persons creating. Scripture is more than clear that God is one person named YHWH (the Father) who created alone. That's why God is always referred to with singular pronouns. You won't find a "they" or "them" or "us" describing God in the Bible.

Look, a singular person is explicitly said to have created "alone." There is no "We" with God. Not "Us" with God.

It says I"

Isaiah 44
24Thus says Yahweh, your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb,
“I, Yahweh, am the maker of all things,
Stretching out the heavens by Myself

And spreading out the earth all alone,
Denying the Truth is not the path that God put you on
 
Again, you use no scripture.


Here’s what the scripture plainly says.

And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.
Revelation 22:13


I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Revelation 1:8

This is who Jesus Christ is.

Very simple and straightforward.

No mention of “reference”.


Adding your words to scripture is how you deceive yourself.
Scripture cannot help you since you don't understand it. I have to start slow and feed you with milk to get you to understand the the statement "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End” which applies to anyone that has a beginning and an end. God is the beginning and the end. Jesus had a beginning when he was born and there's an ending which in his case like God is no end.
 
Scripture cannot help you since you don't understand it. I have to start slow and feed you with milk to get you to understand the the statement "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End” which applies to anyone that has a beginning and an end. God is the beginning and the end. Jesus had a beginning when he was born and there's an ending which in his case like God is no end.
Denying the Truth is not the path that God put you on
 
Scripture sir. Use scripture.

Your word salad and your reference to commentary in the face of undeniable and irrefutably truth is useless.

The scriptures plainly and clearly show what you deny.

Jesus Christ is LORD; The Alpha and Omega, the Almighty.


These words are written in red in most bibles and refer to Jesus Christ.


And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”
Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.
“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star
.”
Revelation 22:12-13


Who is coming quickly ?

The Father or the Son?
@Peterlag evidently does not believe scripture and no matter how many times verses have been in reply to him he never addresses them.
 
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