Your Views on The Trinity

Its not difficult to correct one in error . Just speak the truth .
Now if one wont hear it , That is on them . We did our duty .
The pattern was REBUKE your neighbor ,
not just try and get along . That part wont work .
The one is allowed to remain in error . That never works .
IF a brother wont hear , we take a few witnesses to hear the matter
IF still the one who did wrong wont hear the counsel of the wise
You cast such a one out of the church .
Not to mention its quite clear as what to do with a heretic
is said one wont hear .
We got too involved in the wordly version of its family views and etc
But who is the true family , THOSE who believe in Christ .
If one wrongs you and repentance by said person is not made
IT WAS NEVER once a mandate to just overlook and try and get along .
IT WAS CORRECT the one who erred .
IF he repent , Forgive him . In fact brethren who wrong brethren
and wont repent , or in sin or justify sin and wont repent , cast such a one out of the church
eat not with such a one . But that pattern GOT removed and as a result LEAVEN FLOODED IN and took over .
@TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY
“Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.”
‭‭Leviticus‬ ‭19‬:‭17‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
Thanks for highlighting the scripture references, however there is no actual scripture.


Hebrews 2:17 teaches us nothing.



Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian. And he led the flock to the back of the desert, and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. And the Angel of the LORD appeared to him in a flame of fire from the midst of a bush. So he looked, and behold, the bush was burning with fire, but the bush was not consumed. Then Moses said, “I will now turn aside and see this great sight, why the bush does not burn.”So when the LORD saw that he turned aside to look, God called to him from the midst of the bush and said, “Moses, Moses!”
And he said, “Here I am.”
Then He said, “Do not draw near this place. Take your sandals off your feet, for the place where you stand is holy ground.” Moreover He said, “I am the God of your father—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look upon God. Exodus 3:1-6

  • the Angel of the LORD appeared to him

  • Moreover He said, “I am the God of your father—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.

  • And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look upon God.


Then Moses said to God, “Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is His name?’ what shall I say to them?”
And God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, I AM has sent me to you.’ ” Exodus 3:13-14

  • Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, I AM has sent me to you.’


Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.
Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. John 8:58-59
For The I AM sent moses
but the I AM was revealed IN CHRIST .
I HAVE MANIFEST YOUR NAME . that did not do moses . Nor did moses tell the children
IF YE have seen me you have SEEN the FATHER . i have made manifest YOUR NAME . to make seen
and known . Peter lag has no idea
why the angel corrected john for kneeling
why peter and john and others had corrected men for looking upon them
BUT WHY JESUS NEVER ONCE REBUKED thomas for saying MY LORD and MY GOD .
HE just cannot discern my friend . and worse he as are many
are in dire and grave danger of heading right into the trail of interfaith that leadeth to THE LIE .
 
Look again...

I will highlight them for you to help you see.

. The Jesus God nature would have known about his human nature, and (according to what the Trinitarians teach) his human nature knew he was God, which explains why Trinitarians say Jesus taught that he was God.

Wrong.
For example, in his God nature he would not have been tempted by anything (James 1:13), and his human part would not have been tempted either since his human nature had access to that same knowledge and assurance.

Agreed. But I believe that the men who wrote that said wrong. I believe they should have said tested.

Interestingly the Greek word for tempt (peirazó) is the same as test. The difference lies in the context and the motivation. That which Satan employs as temptation meant for evil destruction, God may permit as a test for our good to purify and strengthen us (Gen. 50:20). Why the difference? God’s purpose is not to harm, but to prove. God already knows our weaknesses, but testing reveals the areas where we need to improve in our reliance upon Him. When we do rely upon God, his power is also revealed to others through us.

Strongs: peirazó: To test, to tempt, to try, to examine

“Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God,” for God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one.” James 1:13 ESV

Mēdeis
peirazomenos legetō hoti Apo Theou peirazomai ho gar Theos apeirastos

No one being tempted let say - , By God . I am being tempted - For God unable to be tempted

estin kakōn peirazei de autos oudena
is ; by evils tempts now He Himself .No one
So I submit the temptation of Jesus was a mere testing permitted by the Father and Jesus walking away from such was actually designed to be an example for us.



Also, Luke 2:52 says Jesus grew in wisdom, but his human part would have had access to his God part, which would have given him infinite and inherent wisdom. Hebrews says Jesus “learned obedience” by the things that he suffered, but again, the human part of Jesus would have accessed the God part of him and he would not have needed to learn anything.

Kenotic Trinitarians claim that Jesus put off or limited His God nature, but that theology only developed to try to reconcile some of the verses about what Christ experienced on the earth. The idea that God can limit what He knows or experiences as God is not taught or explained in Scripture, and Kenotic Trinitarianism has been rejected by orthodox Trinitarians for exactly that reason. The very simple way to explain the “difficult verses” that Kenotic Trinitarians are trying to explain about Christ’s human experiences is to realize that Jesus was a fully human being, and not both God and man at the same time. Some assert we have to take the Trinity “by faith” but that is not biblical either.
 

Here's the truth. There is no answer to the following question anywhere in the Bible and that's why you cannot find it. Because God has nothing to do with being 3 parts.

If...

1.) Jesus is God.

2.) Holy Spirit is God.

3.) What's the third one___________

And don't give me a name or a title and then say I can't see the answer. Give me the third God.

Μια ηλίθια ερώτηση

No name. No title.

You are sorely lacking in reasonable questions.

I suppose because no man, no title... you are looking for no God? Because you do not believe there is one??????????

One thing certain... you are proof free will exists because even YHWH would not have stemmed you into such a dumb question.

It is whatever you call Him.
 
Μια ηλίθια ερώτηση

No name. No title.

You are sorely lacking in reasonable questions.

I suppose because no man, no title... you are looking for no God? Because you do not believe there is one??????????

One thing certain... you are proof free will exists because even YHWH would not have stemmed you into such a dumb question.

It is whatever you call Him.
Calling someone is not what they are. I am a man. Not a Peter, or a son, or a cousin, or a father.
 
Post # 1464

JLB said:
Heavenly Father: God the Father


Here is another name for God the Father.

  • Ancient of Days


“I watched till thrones were put in place,
And the Ancient of Days was seated;
His garment was white as snow,

And the hair of His head was like pure wool.
His throne was a fiery flame,
Its wheels a burning fire;
A fiery stream issued
And came forth from before Him.
A thousand thousands ministered to Him;
Ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him.
The court was seated,
And the books were opened.
“I watched then because of the sound of the pompous words which the horn was speaking; I watched till the beast was slain, and its body destroyed and given to the burning flame. As for the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away, yet their lives were prolonged for a season and a time.
“I was watching in the night visions,
And behold, One like the Son of Man,
Coming with the clouds of heaven!
He came to the Ancient of Days,
Daniel 7:9-13

You keep giving me names. Names and titles are not living creatures. I am a man. Not a Peter, or a cousin, or a son, or a father.

If...

1.) Jesus is God.

2.) Holy Spirit is God.

3.) What's the third one___________

And don't give me a name or a title and then say I can't see the answer. Give me the third God.

 

You keep giving me names. Names and titles are not living creatures. I am a man. Not a Peter, or a cousin, or a son, or a father.

If...

1.) Jesus is God.

2.) Holy Spirit is God.

3.) What's the third one___________

And don't give me a name or a title and then say I can't see the answer. Give me the third God.


The third one is God.
 
Wrong.


Agreed. But I believe that the men who wrote that said wrong. I believe they should have said tested.

Interestingly the Greek word for tempt (peirazó) is the same as test. The difference lies in the context and the motivation. That which Satan employs as temptation meant for evil destruction, God may permit as a test for our good to purify and strengthen us (Gen. 50:20). Why the difference? God’s purpose is not to harm, but to prove. God already knows our weaknesses, but testing reveals the areas where we need to improve in our reliance upon Him. When we do rely upon God, his power is also revealed to others through us.

Strongs: peirazó: To test, to tempt, to try, to examine

“Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God,” for God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one.” James 1:13 ESV

Mēdeis
peirazomenos legetō hoti Apo Theou peirazomai ho gar Theos apeirastos

No one being tempted let say - , By God . I am being tempted - For God unable to be tempted

estin kakōn peirazei de autos oudena
is ; by evils tempts now He Himself .No one
So I submit the temptation of Jesus was a mere testing permitted by the Father and Jesus walking away from such was actually designed to be an example for us.
You meant well but have failed on this one dear sister .
But dont be discouraged and allow this wee flea of dog a few words of clemency please .
The men who wrote it did so correctly . did you know that tempation was often used
to describe tempations of the flesh and also at other times to describe a trial which is for sure contrary to the flesh .
AND i didnt even have to sit under men and learn greek , or scholars .
ITS quite obvious the more one reads the bible .
I mean TIS TRUE THAT GOD DOES NOT TEMPT ANY MAN , but that meant
when written that HE DONT create lustful temptations .
It can confuse folks like its a contradiction because it says GOD TEMPTED abraham .
BUT HE DIDNT TEMPT HIM like we see temptation today
IT WAS A TRIAL . IT JUST the same word was used by men in that day .
ITS VERY TRUE that GOD DOES NOT TEMPT man , NOR CAN HE BE TEMPTED .
Many seem to forget that the WORD became flesh .
FLESH can be tempted . AS MAN was tempted but failed .
BUT THE KEY IS
JESUS WASNT JUST A MAN now was he . IT WAS always gonna take GOD to save HIS OWN creation .
Now dont get offended , i dont think you satan . THIS is often confusing to many ,
but the more by grace one reads that bible and ONLY that bible for themselves
HEY it do come together in time .
Do be encouraged . There aint a darn thing wrong with the KJV .
THOUGH i do understand that its early modern english
and often , SPECIALLY at the first seems can seem contrary when in TRUTH THEY NEVER WERE .
IT was OUR lack of understanding . Feast like a lil child on them ever lovely scrips
and you watch how it can easily , BY THE GRACE of GOD ,come together in time.
OFTEN even the word HELL
was used to describe a state of death and also at times the lake of fire.
THOUGH ,
YES , though there is a difference . the langauge is older
but if one reads enough they will learn to discern in time .
You wanna hear something amazing . THERE ARE NO CONTRADICTIONS in the bible
its only been a lack of understanding all along . AND i didnt need greek or scholars to show me that .
THE HOLY SPIRIT DID . THE MORE I read the more it got engrained and the more it was formed
FEEL FREE to ask questions . Dont just strike the dog that barks , ASK IT WHY it barks .
 
The third one is God.
Now aint that a lovely answer . THOUGH it sure seems many have no idea what that means .
GOD THE FATHER IS GOD , AND GOD IS HIS SPIRIT and HE IS HIS WORD .
Ever wonder why JESUS is described as the ancient of days is , HAIR white as wool
Ever wonder why JESUS could say I am alpha and omega , first and the last
and yet HE also said the FATHER is greater than I .
THE THREE BE ONE . BUT HOW is anything created , created that was created
GOD SPOKE and it was . IN HIM IS LIFE
and HIS SPIRIT is life , HIS WORD is life . THE WORD HE SPEAKS creates what Was spoken .
That is why The FATHER is greater than the SON
and YET , oh yes and yet
JESUS IS STILL the alpha and omega , the first and the last .
Ever wonder why it is written GOD said to the prophet
i shall put my WORDS in thy mouth
and that the prophets SPOKE by the SPIRIT OF GOD
and yet later the apostel paul would say THAT SPIRIT OF CHRIST that was IN THEM .
THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST IS THE SPIRIT OF GOD .
GOD did not create THE WORD , THE SON . THE WORDS of GOD simple came forth of HIM .
And what was spoken was created . ITS JUST the WORD of GOD would become flesh .
THE THREE are ONE . yet many are dumb enough to beleive this means we say there are three gods .
NO SIR . ITS ONE GOD . HE IS HIS WORD , HE IS HIS SPIRIT .
 

You keep giving me names. Names and titles are not living creatures. I am a man. Not a Peter, or a cousin, or a son, or a father.

If...

1.) Jesus is God.

2.) Holy Spirit is God.

3.) What's the third one___________

And don't give me a name or a title and then say I can't see the answer. Give me the third God.

names and titles are not GOD , in that you have written there is truth .
BUT GOD has TITLES ,
You aint proving yourself right , your proving we are right .
GOD calleth HIMSELF the alpha and omega
WHICH IS A TITLE
JESUS calles himself the alpha and omega .
And it is clearly written that in the beginning WAS THE WORD
and not only was the WORD with GOD but that the WORD IS GOD .
You really think there are two spirits of GOD . NO sir .
THERE IS ONLY ONE SPIRIT OF GOD , AND ONLY ONE WORD .
ITS HIS OWN ESSENCE friend . ITS his own essence .
Thomas , you try and reason as a man as to WHY thomas called HIM MY LORD AND MY GOD .
And the reasoning could make sense
UNTIL WE REALIZE ONE THING . JESUS DIDNT CORRECT HIM . BINGO dude .
But there is something else i want you to realize
and even want you to repeat these same words i say to you .
ready .
SAY it with me loud and clear . INTERFAITH IS OF ANTI CHRIST and shall LEAD ALL TO PERDITON .
 
The third one is God.
The GOD head sure is a mystery aint it .
Perhaps a simplier way to explain it would be by the parable of the man who went to the beach .
There once lived a man who was a great teacher
and had decided to prove to his students a dire necessary truth .
SO one day He took a bucket and went to a beach .
He waded into the great and mighty waters of a great ocean .
He takes the bucket and fills it with the waters of THE GREAT and MIGHTY ocean .
So he goes to his class room and awaits for his students to arrive .
So in they come . They notice this bucket on his desk .
And questoins begin to be asked by the students .
one says What is the bucket .
And HE says IT IS the OCEAN . And the students roar in laughter .
And say HEY Dude its a bucket with water in it .
And the man says let not the outward appearnce of the bucket fool you.
I AM telling you this is the ocean itself .
And again they roar in laughter .
HE then arises and says let us go to the beach .
SO they all go to the beach .
And he takes the bucket and he pours out the water into the ocean
and says SEE i told it was the ocean , but you were fooled by the bucket into beleiving
it was not the ocean within that bucket .
SAME ESSENCE . HE TOOK of the ocean and into a bucket , AKA FLESH , THINK FLESH .
then upon returning to the beach THE SAME IDENTICAL WATER RETURNS back TO THE SAME IDENTICAL WATER
IT HAD COME FROM .
THE WORD DID BECOME FLESH and GOD IS HIS WORD .
 
your answer please..... Yes, the conceiver IS the father of the child. IN this case the Holy Spirit as was prophesied.

How? because as the Holy spirit is God, separated from that which is called God the Holy Father (not pope), most certainly
the HS is His dad.
GINOLJC, to all.
ERROR, this is what 101G is speaking about. the Holy Spirit is not the Lord Jesus dad... LOL, Oh boy. LISTEN, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
A. the term "FORM" here is the Greek word,
G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') n.
1. form.
2. (intrinsically) fundamental nature.
[perhaps from the base of G3313 (through the idea of adjustment of parts)]
KJV: form
Root(s): G3313

looking at definition #2. ...... the nature of the Son is "Spirit". NOW THINK, was the Spirit "BORN?"

now the answer, "thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" see that term "with". LEARN, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." see that MT, the "LORD" is WITH the Last. is this two separate persons? answer NO. why? because.... Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." see it now? the First who is ... "WITH" .... the Last is the same one person. because "ALSO" means in addition; too. HELLO in addition to? yes, the person who is the First is ALSO, or in addition too the Last.... the same one PERSON, just as in John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." the WORD" ..... WITH ..... God and was God..... BINGO, the same one person, the ECHAD.

see how ECHAD work. not a separate and a distinct person, but the same person EQUALLY SHARED in TIME, PLACE, ORDER, and RANK. and the ORDER is in First and Last as ORDINAL Designations.

my God this is just too easy not to understand.

101G.
 
GINOLJC, to all.
ERROR, this is what 101G is speaking about. the Holy Spirit is not the Lord Jesus dad... LOL, Oh boy. LISTEN, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
A. the term "FORM" here is the Greek word,
G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') n.
1. form.
2. (intrinsically) fundamental nature.
[perhaps from the base of G3313 (through the idea of adjustment of parts)]
KJV: form
Root(s): G3313

looking at definition #2. ...... the nature of the Son is "Spirit". NOW THINK, was the Spirit "BORN?"

now the answer, "thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" see that term "with". LEARN, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." see that MT, the "LORD" is WITH the Last. is this two separate persons? answer NO. why? because.... Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." see it now? the First who is ... "WITH" .... the Last is the same one person. because "ALSO" means in addition; too. HELLO in addition to? yes, the person who is the First is ALSO, or in addition too the Last.... the same one PERSON, just as in John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." the WORD" ..... WITH ..... God and was God..... BINGO, the same one person, the ECHAD.

see how ECHAD work. not a separate and a distinct person, but the same person EQUALLY SHARED in TIME, PLACE, ORDER, and RANK. and the ORDER is in First and Last as ORDINAL Designations.

my God this is just too easy not to understand.

101G.
Disagree.
 
You meant well but have failed on this one dear sister .
But dont be discouraged and allow this wee flea of dog a few words of clemency please .
The men who wrote it did so correctly . did you know that tempation was often used
to describe tempations of the flesh and also at other times to describe a trial which is for sure contrary to the flesh .
AND i didnt even have to sit under men and learn greek , or scholars .
ITS quite obvious the more one reads the bible .
I mean TIS TRUE THAT GOD DOES NOT TEMPT ANY MAN , but that meant
when written that HE DONT create lustful temptations .
It can confuse folks like its a contradiction because it says GOD TEMPTED abraham .
BUT HE DIDNT TEMPT HIM like we see temptation today
IT WAS A TRIAL . IT JUST the same word was used by men in that day .
ITS VERY TRUE that GOD DOES NOT TEMPT man , NOR CAN HE BE TEMPTED .
Many seem to forget that the WORD became flesh .
FLESH can be tempted . AS MAN was tempted but failed .
BUT THE KEY IS
JESUS WASNT JUST A MAN now was he . IT WAS always gonna take GOD to save HIS OWN creation .
Now dont get offended , i dont think you satan . THIS is often confusing to many ,
but the more by grace one reads that bible and ONLY that bible for themselves
HEY it do come together in time .
Do be encouraged . There aint a darn thing wrong with the KJV .
THOUGH i do understand that its early modern english
and often , SPECIALLY at the first seems can seem contrary when in TRUTH THEY NEVER WERE .
IT was OUR lack of understanding . Feast like a lil child on them ever lovely scrips
and you watch how it can easily , BY THE GRACE of GOD ,come together in time.
OFTEN even the word HELL
was used to describe a state of death and also at times the lake of fire.
THOUGH ,
YES , though there is a difference . the langauge is older
but if one reads enough they will learn to discern in time .
You wanna hear something amazing . THERE ARE NO CONTRADICTIONS in the bible
its only been a lack of understanding all along . AND i didnt need greek or scholars to show me that .
THE HOLY SPIRIT DID . THE MORE I read the more it got engrained and the more it was formed
FEEL FREE to ask questions . Dont just strike the dog that barks , ASK IT WHY it barks .
Disagree
 
DavidTree said:
Peter, what cult are you involved with?

Peterlag replied. #1527
The one that knows Jesus is not God. Why you do is beyond me.

I wont say it, I am sure you all can see.
 
The GOD head sure is a mystery aint it .
Perhaps a simplier way to explain it would be by the parable of the man who went to the beach .
There once lived a man who was a great teacher
and had decided to prove to his students a dire necessary truth .
SO one day He took a bucket and went to a beach .
He waded into the great and mighty waters of a great ocean .
He takes the bucket and fills it with the waters of THE GREAT and MIGHTY ocean .
So he goes to his class room and awaits for his students to arrive .
So in they come . They notice this bucket on his desk .
And questoins begin to be asked by the students .
one says What is the bucket .
And HE says IT IS the OCEAN . And the students roar in laughter .
And say HEY Dude its a bucket with water in it .
And the man says let not the outward appearnce of the bucket fool you.
I AM telling you this is the ocean itself .
And again they roar in laughter .
HE then arises and says let us go to the beach .
SO they all go to the beach .
And he takes the bucket and he pours out the water into the ocean
and says SEE i told it was the ocean , but you were fooled by the bucket into beleiving
it was not the ocean within that bucket .
SAME ESSENCE . HE TOOK of the ocean and into a bucket , AKA FLESH , THINK FLESH .
then upon returning to the beach THE SAME IDENTICAL WATER RETURNS back TO THE SAME IDENTICAL WATER
IT HAD COME FROM .
THE WORD DID BECOME FLESH and GOD IS HIS WORD .
Amen, friend. That’s how we should understand it. …And when the Savior of the world Jesus Christ died on that Cross for you and me, it was God Himself. God loves us that much; God so loved the world.

selah
I’ll get folks come at me, I’m pretty sure.
 
names and titles are not GOD , in that you have written there is truth .
BUT GOD has TITLES ,
You aint proving yourself right , your proving we are right .
GOD calleth HIMSELF the alpha and omega
WHICH IS A TITLE
JESUS calles himself the alpha and omega .
And it is clearly written that in the beginning WAS THE WORD
and not only was the WORD with GOD but that the WORD IS GOD .
You really think there are two spirits of GOD . NO sir .
THERE IS ONLY ONE SPIRIT OF GOD , AND ONLY ONE WORD .
ITS HIS OWN ESSENCE friend . ITS his own essence .
Thomas , you try and reason as a man as to WHY thomas called HIM MY LORD AND MY GOD .
And the reasoning could make sense
UNTIL WE REALIZE ONE THING . JESUS DIDNT CORRECT HIM . BINGO dude .
But there is something else i want you to realize
and even want you to repeat these same words i say to you .
ready .
SAY it with me loud and clear . INTERFAITH IS OF ANTI CHRIST and shall LEAD ALL TO PERDITON .

We are not discussing names or what to call God. My question is what's the third part.

If...

1,) Jesus is God.
2.) Holy Spirit is God.
3.) What's the third one____________
 
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