Your Views on The Trinity

The three already in existence in the first book of the Bible chapter 1.
The text speaks about God the Father's Divine Nature. (Acts 17:9)
Again another verse speaks about God the Father's divine nature. (Rom 1:20)
And Col 2:9 speaks about, "In Christ all the fullness of Deity (Godhead) dwells in bodily form."
Where "Godhead" in Greek "theotes", Louw and Nida Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament with Strong no. G2320 defined it as "the nature or state of being God - 'deity, divine nature, divine being".
(from Greek-English Lexicon Based on Semantic Domain. Copyright © 1988 United Bible Societies, New York. Used by permission.)

This proves Jesus' nature of being God. Trinity for me is they are one in the nature of being God in three distinct persons.

Acts 17:29
29 "Being then the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the
Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man.
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Rom 1:20
20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and
divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21
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"The three already in existence in the first book of the Bible chapter 1."
There were two in the beginning, God and His word, or image: Gen 1:2 (Isa 40:18-21 His image), 26-27 (in His image): John 1:1 (His word the exact image of God).

And to the rest, yes, but the word became flesh! The word was made flesh! The living bread from heaven is my flesh! John 6:51.
 
"The three already in existence in the first book of the Bible chapter 1."
There were two in the beginning, God and His word, or image: Gen 1:2 (Isa 40:18-21 His image), 26-27 (in His image): John 1:1 (His word the exact image of God).

And to the rest, yes, but the word became flesh! The word was made flesh! The living bread from heaven is my flesh! John 6:51.
THREE in Genesis chapter 1

1In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.
2The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of Elohim was hovering over the face of the waters.

3Then Elohim Said,

26 Elohim Said, let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness
 
The bible states there is one God.

Deut. 4:35, 39; 32:39; 2 Sam. 22:32; 2 Kings 5:15; Is. 37:20; 43:10; 44:6-8; 45:5, 14, 21-22; 46:9

How can one say there are three?

Trinitarians affirm what the bible teaches
One could say with their mouth, "three persons, who each are a judge, are only one judge!" but what is the truth.
 
Irrelevant, because there is only one Jesus.




Never claimed I was.


Yes, I am. I am a father and a son.



See my previous response. Let it sink in.



See my first response and let that also sink in.

Incredible.
Your logic does not hold up. One cannot support the trinity by saying I am also many things... an Uncle, Son, Brother, Father, Truck Driver etc. You got nothing but your own imagination, human reasoning, and picking one verse here, and another verse there, a hint here and a clue there and then you construct your "own God" which is the product of your own human reasoning process, speculations and assumptions. Nothing more.
 
Forgive sin?

Mark 2:10 (LEB) — 10 But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins,”—he said to the paralytic—
You posted nobody can forgive sins but God. I then asked if you have a verse to go along with that and you did not post a verse that says only God can forgive sins. So I will take it that you don't have a verse to go along with that. What you posted was a verse that says the son of man who is the Christ can forgive sins.
 
THREE in Genesis chapter 1

1In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.
2The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of Elohim was hovering over the face of the waters.

3Then Elohim Said,

26 Elohim Said, let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness
Spirit, wind, breath = word. Psalm 33:6 By the word ("logos" is spirit, wind, breath) of the LORD the heavens were made, and by the breath (is a word) of His mouth all their host. All things came into being through him (the word John 1:1, of His mouth Psalm 33:6), and apart from him nothing came into being that has come into being. - John 1:3.
Isa 40:18-20-22 points out that the spirit of God (in Gen 1:2) is God's image. And then, God made man in His image, how many did He make? Two! And was one made from the other? Yes!
 
Jesus as the "Son of God" based on your reply, I believe it has deep meaning. May I present to you a simple logic;
1. Jesus as "Son of man", as His mother is human Mary, is He man or not?
2. Jesus as "Son of God" as His Father is God, is He God or not? Why the honest and logical answer to the first question cannot be applied to the second one? Why and kindly explain.
To suggest that Jesus was 2 parts starts to deal with the dual nature of Christ which is never stated in the Bible and contradicts the Bible and the laws of nature that God set up. Nothing can be 100% of two different things. Jesus cannot be 100% God and 100% man, and that is not a “mystery” but it's a contradiction and a talk of nonsense. A fatal flaw in the “dual nature” theory is that both natures in Jesus would have had to have known about each other. The Jesus God nature would have known about his human nature, and (according to what the Trinitarians teach) his human nature knew he was God, which explains why Trinitarians say Jesus taught that he was God. The book of Hebrews is wrong when it says Jesus was “made like his brothers in every respect” if Jesus knew he was God (Hebrews 2:17). Jesus was not made like other humans in every way if Jesus was 100% God and 100% human at the same time. In fact, he would have been very different from other humans in many respects.

For example, in his God nature he would not have been tempted by anything (James 1:13), and his human part would not have been tempted either since his human nature had access to that same knowledge and assurance. It is written he was tempted in every way like we all are (Hebrews 4:15). Furthermore, God does not have the problems, uncertainty, and anxieties that humans do, and Jesus would not have had those either if he knew he was God. Also, Luke 2:52 says Jesus grew in wisdom, but his human part would have had access to his God part, which would have given him infinite and inherent wisdom. Hebrews says Jesus “learned obedience” by the things that he suffered, but again, the human part of Jesus would have accessed the God part of him and he would not have needed to learn anything.

Kenotic Trinitarians claim that Jesus put off or limited His God nature, but that theology only developed to try to reconcile some of the verses about what Christ experienced on the earth. The idea that God can limit what He knows or experiences as God is not taught or explained in Scripture, and Kenotic Trinitarianism has been rejected by orthodox Trinitarians for exactly that reason. The very simple way to explain the “difficult verses” that Kenotic Trinitarians are trying to explain about Christ’s human experiences is to realize that Jesus was a fully human being, and not both God and man at the same time. Some assert we have to take the Trinity “by faith” but that is not biblical either.
 
I can by using the same concept prove anything including that the Apostle Peter was in the garden with Eve.

1.) Eve called the devil
Satan
2.) Jesus called Peter Satan
3.) Therefore Peter was with Eve
Do you understand that the word "only" in English means exclusivity? How can both statements "God is the only Savior" and "Jesus is the only Savior" be true simultaneously? This is how logic works:

1.) The Bible calls God the only Savior
2.) The Bible calls Jesus the only Savior
3.) Is anyone else the only Savior? No.
4) Therefore
Jesus is God
 
Do you understand that the word "only" in English means exclusivity? How can both statements "God is the only Savior" and "Jesus is the only Savior" be true simultaneously? This is how logic works:

1.) The Bible calls God the only Savior
2.) The Bible calls Jesus the only Savior
3.) Is anyone else the only Savior? No.
4) Therefore
Jesus is God

Titus 2:13 KJV - 3 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
 
Spirit, wind, breath = word. Psalm 33:6 By the word ("logos" is spirit, wind, breath) of the LORD the heavens were made, and by the breath (is a word) of His mouth all their host. All things came into being through him (the word John 1:1, of His mouth Psalm 33:6), and apart from him nothing came into being that has come into being. - John 1:3.
Isa 40:18-20-22 points out that the spirit of God (in Gen 1:2) is God's image. And then, God made man in His image, how many did He make? Two! And was one made from the other? Yes!
ELohim is always THREE = Beginning in Genesis chapter 1


"In the beginning Elohim" = FATHER
The Spirit of Elohim that hovers over the waters is the HOLY SPIRIT
The Spirit that Spoke is the WORD that is Elohim = John 1:1

Genesis 1:26 - THREE = "Elohim said, let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness

Why were two created in the image of Elohim???

IMPORTANT = Elohim made ONE Man in HIS Image

The woman was made from the man = BOTH made in the image of Elohim

This is a MYSTERY but it Speaks of CHRIST and HIS Church/Body/Bride
 
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You asserted in post #1008 that:
"Nothing can be 100% of two different things."

This was so easy to refute.
It's only refuted in your mind. The truth is noting can be 100 percent of two things. You are not 100 percent of both a son and a father. You are 100 percent of a son and 100 percent of a father. There's not two of you.
 
Absolutely! Only those who warp logic or who have no reading skills are the ones who deny Jesus is God.

CC: @Peterlag
You're right about having reading skills. Some folks don't have any when it comes to the Scriptures. The verse says God and our Saviour. It does not say God who is our Saviour.

13 Titus 2:13
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
 
You're right about having reading skills. Some folks don't have any when it comes to the Scriptures. The verse says God and our Saviour. It does not say God who is our Saviour.

13 Titus 2:13
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Yes. So, do you still not understand that the word "only" in English means exclusivity? How can both statements "God is the only Savior" and "Jesus is the only Savior" be true simultaneously? This is how logic works:

1.) The Bible calls God the only Savior
2.) The Bible calls Jesus the only Savior
3.) Is anyone else the only Savior? No.
4) Therefore Jesus is God
 
Do you understand that the word "only" in English means exclusivity? How can both statements "God is the only Savior" and "Jesus is the only Savior" be true simultaneously? This is how logic works:

1.) The Bible calls God the only Savior
2.) The Bible calls Jesus the only Savior
3.) Is anyone else the only Savior? No.
4) Therefore
Jesus is God
It's only in your mind that both are not called the Savior. Again, it's your imagination, human reasoning, and picking one verse here, and another verse there, a hint here and a clue there and then you construct your "own God" which is the product of your own human reasoning process, speculations and assumptions. Nothing more.
 
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