Will Babies that die go to Heaven?
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jeremiah1five
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Salvation is of the Jews. All Jews no matter their age are in salvation covenant with God.The Bible is clear that God’s love for all He has created extends to the young child, the infant, the baby yet unborn. Those who cannot discern right from wrong, whose minds have not developed enough to understand sin, repentance, grace, and forgiveness, are not held accountable for errors made in ignorance. As Jesus welcomed the little children during His earthy ministry, so He will open His arms to them in heaven....
The Bible assures us that children go to heaven to be with the Lord. The Lord loves children and isn’t willing for any of them to perish. Not one of them will be lost. Let me show you two Scriptures on this.
1. “I Shall Go to Him” (2 Sam. 12:16–23). When David said in verse 23: “I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me,” he understood that he would see his baby again in heaven, that the child had gone to be with the Lord. His grief was great, but his joy came from anticipating the coming reunion.
2. “She Is Not Dead But Sleeping” (Mark 5:21–43). The mourners at the funeral of this little girl were wailing in grief, but that wasn’t Jesus’ perspective when He arrived on the scene. Christ looked at the little form lying there and said three remarkable things:
A. She is not dead! Those words are for every mom, dad, or grandparent who has lost a little one. This child that miscarried, this child that was stillborn, this child that was aborted, this child that died of SIDS, this child who perished in the natural disaster—these children are not dead. This is Bible-speak. This is Jesus-talk.
B. …but sleeping. This little body is resting, and his (her) soul is with Jesus.
C. Talitha, cumi… Little girl, I say to you, arise. The miracle of this little girl’s resurrection was a token of what He is going to do when He comes again, and the dead in Christ are raised first.
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Non-Hebrew Gentiles are not in any of the three Hebrew Covenants and are thus outside God's salvation.
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Gal. 4:4–5.
Non-Hebrew Gentiles are not nor ever have they ever been under God's Law
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16 For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He [even] gave up His only begotten (unique) Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life.
John 3:16
No other verse in the Bible so succinctly summarizes God’s relationship with humanity and the way of salvation.
jeremiah1five
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Good Lord, man. Stop with all this false Constantinian Gentile theology.
The word "world" (Greek: "kosmos") is in context to whom Jesus is speaking to, in this case, a religious leader in Israel named Nicodemus. One rabbi to another. Jesus would not break Scripture by having "world" refer to Gentiles. It refers to the "world" of Jews. But here, chew on this passage which needs no interpretation of Greek words and their context:
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. Gal. 4:3–5.
God made no covenant with non-Hebrew Gentiles thus non-Hebrew Gentiles do not have salvation offered to them as God offered salvation to the Hebrew people progressively throughout the centuries. First, with the Abraham Covenant with Abram the HEBREW (Gen. 14:13), then with the children of Israel in the desert with Moses at the time of the Tabernacle. The first Passover was in Egypt when God personally killed all the first born of the non-Hebrew Gentile Egyptians.
The New Covenant instituted by Jesus at the last Passover came into being with the advent of the Holy Spirit of Promise at the Jewish Feast of Harvest (Pentecost), a promise God made through the prophet Joel to the children of Israel. AND the New Covenant is between God and the House of Israel and the House of Judah (NO GENTILES INCLUDED.)
31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
That I will make a new covenant
With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jeremiah 31:31.
If you're going to come at me then come with the bible. I have no patience with those who say a wrong - many wrong - things about the One True God.
Bob Carabbio
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Of course!! "Original Sin" is just another lying Roman Catholic fantasy. people die / are condemned for THEIR OWN SIN, and we inherited NOTHING from Adam other than out HUMAN NATURE - the same one Adam was created with, that Jesus had, and that all humanity shares.
Amen!!
In my Christian opinion, this must be absolutely true. But to accept this truth leads to a distortion in another bit of dogma that insists that death cannot be the wages for, earned by, sin but is a mere consequence of life because babies and infants in utero die apparently before they can conceive of rebelling sinfully against GOD. They do not inherit sin from Adam so how do they become sinful so they have earned the wages of sin, ie, death?
The current favorite answer is to sacrifice the truth that death is indeed the wages of sinfulness and therefore death proves sinfulness on the altar of no inherited sin.
Why would GOD have Paul write that death is the wages for sin if death is in fact a mere consequence of life and has no theological meaning? Where is death probably earned? In the womb or pre-womb as a spirit?
Bob Carabbio
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Of course the problem here is "Dogma"/"theology"/ "theologians OPINIONS" about things - which in many cases don't MEAN SPIT.
Bob Carabbio
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You need to be careful about WHICH DEATH is being discussed. the less important PHYSICAL DEATH, or the Utterly crucial SPIRITUAL DEATH.
Since the human body replcates itself endlessly, there essentially NO REASON for aging - if the replication were accurate. that it ISN'T ACCURATE has got to be a purposful "design issue". God cursed TWO THINGS in the garden - the serpent, and the "Ground". Could be that AGING is part of that curse since "ground" is where we came from, and return to.
Pancho Frijoles
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Because God is concerned about the salvation of our soul.
By the same token, we don't love God because we expect him to preserve our nose, liver or kidneys in exchange. This is not how love works.
Our desire to keep our nose, liver and kidneys healthy is to enable us to perform God's will on earth (our mission) by means of acts that require a physical body. Once our mission is completed, we have no issues in leaving our body.
Paul shows us how of how he felt (Phil 1:21-24)
"For to me, to continue living is Christ, and to die is gain. But if I am to live on in the flesh, this will mean fruitful labor to me. Yet I do not know what I shall choose. I am in a difficult position between the two, having a desire to depart and to be with Christ, which is far better. Nevertheless, to remain in the flesh is more needful for your sake."
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