When are believers in Christ ?

[TomL]

Christ was the Head of the Church before creation, before Adam was the Head at Creation. Were men in Adam at the first ? Likewise they were in Christ prior to Adam, You ignore Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

As usual you ignore scripture

Ephesians 1:13 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

Romans 16:7 (LEB) — 7 Greet Andronicus and Junia, my compatriots and my fellow prisoners, who are well known to the apostles, who were also in Christ before me.

 

[Behold]

Conclusion: In summary we become to be in Christ when we believe and are given the Holy Spirit after placing our faith in the gospel message of our salvation.

Yes.
We can't believe the Gospel, before we hear it, as "faith (in the Gospel) come by HEARING".

This "hearing" can come many ways......not just by listening to preaching.

I'll give you an example.

The best Christian i personally know, is a woman who trusted in Christ, because the "GOSPEL" was being preached by the movie "Jesus of Nazareth".

She watched this movie, understood what Jesus was doing on The Cross for HER, and she placed her faith in Christ, before this movie ended.

God has many ways to deliver the TRUTH to you, so that you can have it revealed to you in your heart, so that you can decided to Trust in Christ.

Some people who doubt God, will say..>>"well, how can some lost tribe in a rain forest who have never been out of the forest, be given the Gospel".

Easy, see.. "with God all things are Possible".. and if God needs to send someone in a big fish to the Lost then He will...

If God needs to send the Gospel to some "lost tribe" or to some communist country that wont allow Bibles or Christians.... then "with God all things are possible, and He'll get the Gospel in there..........no problem.

 

[Neil Spargo]

Yes.
We can't believe the Gospel, before we hear it, as "faith (in the Gospel) come by HEARING".

This "hearing" can come many ways......not just by listening to preaching.

I'll give you an example.

The best Christian i personally know, is a woman who trusted in Christ, because the "GOSPEL" was being preached by the movie "Jesus of Nazareth".

She watched this movie, understood what Jesus was doing on The Cross for HER, and she placed her faith in Christ, before this movie ended.

God has many ways to deliver the TRUTH to you, so that you can have it revealed to you in your heart, so that you can decided to Trust in Christ.

Some people who doubt God, will say..>>"well, how can some lost tribe in a rain forest who have never been out of the forest, be given the Gospel".

Easy, see.. "with God all things are Possible".. and if God needs to send someone in a big fish to the Lost then He will...

If God needs to send the Gospel to some "lost tribe" or to some communist country that wont allow Bibles or Christians.... then "with God all things are possible, and He'll get the Gospel in there..........no problem.

Jesus replied, “I tell you, . . . if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out” (Luke 19:40). What did Jesus mean by this statement? Did He mean that the rocks would literally start shouting praises to the Lord? Most likely, no. The expression the stones will cry out seems to be proverbial and isn’t to be understood as a literal statement. The meaning seems to be that it is more likely that the impossible would happen than for the King of kings to enter His capital city without honor. Got?

Acts 21:14
Verse Concepts
And since he would not be persuaded, we fell silent, remarking, “The will of the Lord be done!”

Matthew 6:10
Verse Concepts
‘Your kingdom come.
Your will be done,
On earth as it is in heaven.

Matthew 26:42
Verse Concepts
He went away again a second time and prayed, saying, “My Father, if this cannot pass away unless I drink it, Your will be done.”

2 Samuel 10:12
Verse Concepts
Be strong, and let us show ourselves courageous for the sake of our people and for the cities of our God; and may the Lord do what is good in His sight.”

2 Samuel 15:26
Verse Concepts
But if He should say thus, ‘I have no delight in you,’ behold, here I am, let Him do to me as seems good to Him.”

1 Peter 4:19
Verse Concepts
Therefore, those also who suffer according to the will of God shall entrust their souls to a faithful Creator in doing what is right.

Zechariah 1:6
Verse Concepts
But did not My words and My statutes, which I commanded My servants the prophets, overtake your fathers? Then they repented and said, ‘As the Lord of hosts purposed to do to us in accordance with our ways and our deeds, so He has dealt with us.’”’”

James 4:15
Verse Concepts
Instead, you ought to say, “If the Lord wills, we will live and also do this or that.”

Romans 1:10
Verse Concepts
always in my prayers making request, if perhaps now at last by the will of God I may succeed in coming to you.

Acts 18:21
Verse Concepts
but taking leave of them and saying, “I will return to you again if God wills,” he set sail from Ephesus.

1 Corinthians 4:19
Verse Concepts
But I will come to you soon, if the Lord wills, and I shall find out, not the words of those who are arrogant but their power.

Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/God~s-Will-Be-Done

 

[brightfame52]

As usual you ignore scripture

Ephesians 1:13 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

Romans 16:7 (LEB) — 7 Greet Andronicus and Junia, my compatriots and my fellow prisoners, who are well known to the apostles, who were also in Christ before me.

Christ was the Head of the Church before creation, before Adam was the Head at Creation. Were men in Adam at the first ? Likewise they were in Christ prior to Adam, You ignore Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

 

[TomL]

Christ was the Head of the Church before creation, before Adam was the Head at Creation. Were men in Adam at the first ? Likewise they were in Christ prior to Adam, You ignore Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Still failing to address the fact men are in Christ in time when they believe

Ephesians 1:13 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

Romans 16:7 (LEB) — 7 Greet Andronicus and Junia, my compatriots and my fellow prisoners, who are well known to the apostles, who were also in Christ before me.

 

[brightfame52]

Still failing to address the fact men are in Christ in time when they believe

Ephesians 1:13 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

Romans 16:7 (LEB) — 7 Greet Andronicus and Junia, my compatriots and my fellow prisoners, who are well known to the apostles, who were also in Christ before me.

You are unable to receive this spiritual truth,

Christ was the Head of the Church before creation, before Adam was the Head at Creation. Were men in Adam at the first ? Likewise they were in Christ prior to Adam, You ignore Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

 

[TomL]

You are unable to receive this spiritual truth,

Christ was the Head of the Church before creation, before Adam was the Head at Creation. Were men in Adam at the first ? Likewise they were in Christ prior to Adam, You ignore Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

You are unable to harmonize your theology with scripture

Still failing to address the fact men are in Christ in time when they believe

Ephesians 1:13 (LEB) — 13 in whom also you, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also when you believed you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

Romans 16:7 (LEB) — 7 Greet Andronicus and Junia, my compatriots and my fellow prisoners, who are well known to the apostles, who were also in Christ before me.

What you have in verse 4 is the statement God chose to find those in Christ holy and blameless before him in love