Who said otherwise? Neither was the "you" he was addressing. They were chosen in Him however.
When are believers in Christ ?
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civic
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Yes it is no doubt about that fact. I referenced 6 sources that affirm determinism and fatalism are one in the same
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Nope. There not for the three reasons I stated.
civic
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Exactly you stated, assumed rofl
So far they are undisputed. Ignored by you because you don't know what your talking about. As per usualExactly you stated, assumed rofl
civic
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The accepted definitions refute your false claims in the same way the Bible refutes your false doctrines .
The parallels are indisputable
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Nope. They don't. I accept the standard definitions. I also except they are not the same and they are not synonymous terms. For the reasons i stayed. As do most adults with a High School education.
civic
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Take it up with the numerous dictionaries and encyclopedias that prove you are wrong that I provided in this thread.
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Nope
I'm actually correct. Your lame attempt to save face notwithstanding.
civic
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Nope you are incorrect with these accepted definitions just like you are with the biblical definitions that refute your doctrines. I’ll give you this you are consistent. In both cases you change the meaning of both secular and biblical words to support your false beliefs.
Hope this helps !!!
Nope. I accept the standard definitions. It's you that must twist and turn them ilto try to make them synonymous terms. There not as I brilliantly pointed out leaving you grasping at air. Are you sure it's not 4.0 years instead of 40?
civic
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Theo( God ) logical ( the study of ) fatalism is a theological system and a real term for those who peddle divine determinism.
They are one and the same .
Remember “ God is the first cause of everything “ your doctrine
Continue remaining in De Nile.
They are not one in the same for the reasons I brilliantly stated.Theo( God ) logical ( the study of ) fatalism is a theological system and a real term for those who peddle divine determinism.
They are one and the same .
Remember “ God is the first cause of everything “ your doctrine
Continue remaining in De Nile.
Do you deny God is the first cause? LOL
civic
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You meant to say your false claims you assumed that remain unproven
Sorry. Just the facts. They are not synonymous terms for the reasons I brilliantly pointed out.You meant to say your false claims you assumed that remain unproven
It is fatalistic for all your unfortunate non-elect out-of-luck colleagues.
Your Calvinist God has determined it that way.
civic
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YepIt is fatalistic for all your unfortunate non-elect out-of-luck colleagues.
quacks like a duck 
all you want but everyone knows it’s a duck Yep
What is fatalism
Fatalism is a philosophical doctrine that emphasizes the idea that all events, including human actions, are predetermined and inevitable. It is often associated with the concept of fate or destiny, suggesting that the course of events is already set and cannot be changed.Key Characteristics
- Acceptance: Fatalists accept whatever happens as having been bound or decreed to happen.
- Belief in a binding or decreeing agent: Fatalism often implies the existence of a higher power, such as God or Fate, that determines the outcome of events.
- Resignation: Fatalists may adopt a resigned attitude towards the future, feeling that their actions are futile in the face of an inevitable outcome.
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