Veneration of Mary

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most protestants believe mary had ape sex with joseph which is scary. they think this flesh was created by God.

 

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the goddess pagan stuff was an evil concept of the vatican but the vatican has the same corrupted idea about the holy spirit which protestants do. they made sure of gluing those mistakes on through augustine.

 

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pretty...

sorry there was fighting here for no reason...

 

[Doug Brents]

most protestants believe mary had ape sex with joseph which is scary. they think this flesh was created by God.

We know that Mary did have sex with Joseph, because we are told that Joseph did not have sex with her until after Jesus was born (meaning that after Jesus was born they entered into a normal sexual relationship between husband and wife). And we know that their union resulted in at least 4 other sons and some daughters. So to say that she remained a perpetual virgin is asinine.

 

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We know that Mary did have sex with Joseph, because we are told that Joseph did not have sex with her until after Jesus was born (meaning that after Jesus was born they entered into a normal sexual relationship between husband and wife). And we know that their union resulted in at least 4 other sons and some daughters. So to say that she remained a perpetual virgin is asinine.

it would be better if she had stayed without fallen nature sex

however I dont believe she had it.
if she did, too bad.

 

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many believe God said to procreate like apes in these fallen nature bodies...

He did not.

 

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We know that Mary did have sex with Joseph, because we are told that Joseph did not have sex with her until after Jesus was born (meaning that after Jesus was born they entered into a normal sexual relationship between husband and wife). And we know that their union resulted in at least 4 other sons and some daughters. So to say that she remained a perpetual virgin is asinine.

but in fact God's Spirit is pure
and all the sons stepped right out of her...
so lovely

there is no procreation concept in God's creation
though unfortunately it is the system
of this fallen animal nature reality
on this earth

 

[Doug Brents]

it would be better if she had stayed without fallen nature sex

however I dont believe she had it.
if she did, too bad.

"Fallen nature" sex? Sex is a gift given to us by God. Have you never read the Song of Solomon? It is rather "X" rated in its portrayal of a man and wife, and it is Scripture. There is absolutely nothing wrong with sex within the confines of a marriage relationship. And Joseph and Mary were married.

 

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but in fact God's Spirit is pure
and all the sons stepped right out of her...
so lovely

there is no procreation concept in God's creation
though unfortunately it is the system
of this fallen animal nature reality
on this earth

LOL, God commanded Adam and Eve to procreate long before the fall. And we are sexual creatures, created that way by God. Sex is not part of the fallen nature, but is the way God designed our bodies to work.

 

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LOL, God commanded Adam and Eve to procreate long before the fall. And we are sexual creatures, created that way by God. Sex is not part of the fallen nature, but is the way God designed our bodies to work.

yes we are sexual but
we were in eden (in the other reality)
and not creatures
and no animal procreation needed

 

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yes we are sexual but
we were in eden (in the other reality)

There is no "other reality". The Garden in Eden was part of this world, part of this creation, part of this reality, but man was cast out of it until the Tree of Life either died or was taken back to Heaven (Gen 3:22-24). God would not have needed to station an angel there to guard the way back to the Tree of Life if man had been cast into a different reality.

and not creatures
and no animal procreation needed

Even in Eden, God commanded the animals and Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply (Gen 1:28).

 

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soon Christ, the most sweet lovely deity who loves and understands and who from His own core spoke gorgeous Eden paradise into being will return. He and our mother His gorgeous Feminine spirit will bring Eden back now.

 

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There is no "other reality". The Garden in Eden was part of this world, part of this creation, part of this reality, but man was cast out of it until the Tree of Life either died or was taken back to Heaven (Gen 3:22-24). God would not have needed to station an angel there to guard the way back to the Tree of Life if man had been cast into a different reality.

Even in Eden, God commanded the animals and Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply (Gen 1:28).

i dont agree with your theology but i hope you are on Christ's side please soon.


read above what i just posted and understand

 

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soon Christ, the most sweet lovely deity who loves and understands and who from His own core spoke gorgeous Eden paradise into being will return. He and our mother His gorgeous Feminine spirit will bring Eden back now.

"our mother His gorgeous feminine spirit"??????
Where in Scripture is God ever spoken of as feminine? Or what other Spirit is there that is God's equal that is feminine? That concept does not exist. There is not "mother" spirit. You have got some seriously twisted theology yourself, and it does not fit Scripture at all. But then, you don't believe in Scripture, because you think that all of the Scripture we have today has been corrupted. If that is the case, where is the true Scripture upon which you base your claims?

i dont agree with your theology but i hope you are on Christ's side please soon.

I am already on Christ's side, so I don't need to come over to it "soon". But you ... smh!

read above what i just posted and understand

Yes, Jesus will return (hopefully soon), and when He does He will completely destroy this entire creation (2 Pet 3:10-12, Rev 20:11, 21:1). And then He will create a New Earth with a new universe in which we will live and it will be the paradise you are thinking about.

 

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thank you for the reply.
I stand by what I said...

 

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We all His souls are made in the image of Them.
and will return to our Eden land and the sons with Christ will make it new
and rule with Christ..
and we will be restored to our original body made by God.

 

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"our mother His gorgeous feminine spirit"??????
Where in Scripture is God ever spoken of as feminine? Or what other Spirit is there that is God's equal that is feminine?

Christ and God's Holy Spirit are the Hands of God...

I only know of His Holy Spirit... All through the OT she is referred in feminine language... There is no other Holy Spirit.

That concept does not exist.

I am so sorry RCC has hidden so much from souls through its evil councils and corruptions

There is not "mother" spirit. You have got some seriously twisted theology yourself, and it does not fit Scripture at all.

true because the bible modern christianity follows is the sealed vision

and has altered His Words

But then, you don't believe in Scripture, because you think that all of the Scripture we have today has been corrupted. If that is the case, where is the true Scripture upon which you base your claims?

He Himself speaks His words... the written down words here today are copies of what human beings interpreted

I am already on Christ's side, so I don't need to come over to it "soon". But you ... smh!

Yes, Jesus will return (hopefully soon), and when He does He will completely destroy this entire creation (2 Pet 3:10-12, Rev 20:11, 21:1).

yes please I am pleading Him to return!!!

And then He will create a New Earth with a new universe in which we will live and it will be the paradise you are thinking about.

yes it is... thank you Doug. His restored eden paradise.

 

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Christ and God's Holy Spirit are the Hands of God...

I only know of His Holy Spirit... All through the OT she is referred in feminine language... There is no other Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit is always spoken of in masculine terms, never feminine. John 16:8 is very clear that the Holy Spirit is a "HE", masculine not feminine.

I am so sorry RCC has hidden so much from souls through its evil councils and corruptions

Not sure what the rcc has to do with anything. They have certainly corrupted much of their doctrine, but a thorough reading of the Scriptures shows the truth and exposes their lies. So I am not sure why you are bringing their false religion into this discussion.

true because the bible modern christianity follows is the sealed vision

and has altered His Words

Please show me where the "true words" can be found then. You keep saying that His words have been altered, so where are the true words that show you that the Bible is false?

He Himself speaks His words... the written down words here today are copies of what human beings interpreted

God did indeed inspire the Scriptures, and they were written down faithfully by His servants, and copied faithfully by his faithful servants down to what we have in the Bible today. You claim to have access to something more pure and holy than what everyone else has, please share it with us. Please show us what you have that was written before the copies found in Qumran.

 

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The Holy Spirit is always spoken of in masculine terms, never feminine. John 16:8 is very clear that the Holy Spirit is a "HE", masculine not feminine.

Not sure what the rcc has to do with anything. They have certainly corrupted much of their doctrine, but a thorough reading of the Scriptures shows the truth and exposes their lies. So I am not sure why you are bringing their false religion into this discussion.

Please show me where the "true words" can be found then. You keep saying that His words have been altered, so where are the true words that show you that the Bible is false?

God did indeed inspire the Scriptures, and they were written down faithfully by His servants, and copied faithfully by his faithful servants down to what we have in the Bible today. You claim to have access to something more pure and holy than what everyone else has, please share it with us. Please show us what you have that was written before the copies found in Qumran.

please check out every reference to God's spirit in hebrew in the OT.

 

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please check out every reference to God's spirit in hebrew in the OT.

The references to the Holy Spirit in the OT are almost exclusively metaphorical. In that case, the gender of the word used is irrelevant to the gender of the Holy Spirit. For example, He is called the Wind (a female noun in Hebrew), but He is call a "He" and a "Him" in John 16:8, and we MUST ALWAYS follow the clearest, most easily understood passage. Further, remember that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God, and God is ALWAYS masculine. The Holy Spirit is not a different spirit from the Spirit that is God.

Also remember, that while the OT and the NT are written in different languages, and were written by many hands over a period of more than 1500 years, they are not separate documents; all of Scripture as a whole is one unit.