I don't have to because it is what he has been saying all along if you have ears to hear.
Transmitting The Fallen Nature
- Thread starter Olde Tymer
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Are you saying that someone who performs a withdraw fellowship (like a fair weather friend) is not really forsaking a relationship?I don't have to because it is what he has been saying all along if you have ears to hear.
In other words, you're ok with people doing that to you and it wouldn't bother you at all?
GeneZ
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GeneZ
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You work on such a "human" level.......
You have not given up quarreling? 1 Timothy 3:3
You do not fight using the Word. You argue on a human level of contentiousness.
OK...
You're the one who is promoting the "withdraw fellowship" idea as to how God treats those who are pleasing to him.
Where is that phrase ever found in the Bible when it comes to how God treats those who are pleasing to Him?
GeneZ
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Synergy says the following was a lie....
King James:
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying,
“Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is to say, “My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?”
Amplified Bible:
And about the ninth hour (three o’clock) Jesus cried with a loud voice, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?
—that is, My God, My God, why have You abandoned Me [leaving Me helpless, forsaking and
failing Me in My need]?
And! The Synergy version?
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?”
that is to say, “My God, My God, why must I pretend and act like Thou hast forsaken Me?”
Hope you recover!
GeneZ
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Jesus as he normally is? Always pleases the Father...
But to save us?
For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God."
2 Corinthians 5:21
I hope you are looking up the passages I have been providing you .
Sadly, it seems you never read them before.....
101G
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haven't read all the posts, but looking at a few, "God desire is for ..... ALL MEN .... to be saved. it was only BROKEN FELLOWSHIP that separate man from God. but the relationship never changed even the in the fallen state. as an example, with all parent and child. a child can grow up and go anti-social and even kill. but the relationship with the parent and child do not, and cannot be changed. the parent may not like or enjoy what their Child did, but they are still that child parents and even though the "FELLOWSHIP" is broken or the enjoyment of it, but the relationship is never change.
101G.
101G.
There is not even a hint of your "withdraw fellowship" accusation in that verse.
When will you withdraw your "withdraw fellowship" false accusation?
GeneZ
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I like what Jesus did when closed minded stubborn ones would resist Him.
Did he stand around and argue back with them on their level? No....
Jesus gave the Word and would just walk away away to leave them stewing in their own juices...
And, as a man?
He pioneered my faith!
Did he stand around and argue back with them on their level? No....
Jesus gave the Word and would just walk away away to leave them stewing in their own juices...
And, as a man?
He pioneered my faith!
Correct. That is for a child that grieves you. Imagine how much more we should not forsake a child who pleases us.
GeneZ
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Ok then..,. I'll play your game.
Where in the Gospels does Jesus say he is God?
Actually say it?
2 Corinthians 6:14
Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?
God the Father is not distancing Himself from God the Son. He is not distancing Himself from the righteous man Jesus who was without sin. He is distancing Himself from our sin which Jesus bore on our behalf on the Cross. But because Jesus bore our sin, He also had to suffer the consequences of our sin which was to be cut off completely from God. There was no grace coming from God the Father or God the Spirit to help Him endure the agony. His own Deity was silent and gave no help just as His own Deity had given no help during the Incarnation period. All Jesus had to rely on was the word of God hidden in His own soul to sustain Him for the three hours He was without any fellowship from the Triune God.
Psalm 119:11
Your word I have hidden in my heart,
That I might not sin against You.
This is what Jesus had done all His life. This is how He grew in grace and wisdom. This is what sustained Him in the most agonizing time any man could face and a time none of us ever have or ever will face in this life because of His sacrifice.
GeneZ
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Was not Satan at one time his child? Were not all his angels (who were sons of God) His children?
Poor analogy.... But. It pleased your emotional need.
When will you give us a verse that actually backs up what you say?I like what Jesus did when closed minded stubborn ones would resist Him.
Did he stand around and argue back with them on their level? No....
Jesus gave the Word and would just walk away away to leave them stewing in their own juices...
And, as a man?
He pioneered my faith!
GeneZ
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GeneZ
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When you give us one verse where Jesus during the Incarnation says, "I am God!"
How could you possibly speak of satan when we are talking about Jesus here?
You'll do anything to promote your agenda, I see.
Huh? He is God. Are you denying that?
101G
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the term "Forsaken" can mean also, "Sacrifice". which he was for us. and his Sacrifice of his NATURAL LIFE/BLOOD was for our sins that are PAST, before we come unto him. supportive Scripture, Romans 3:24 "Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:" Romans 3:25 "Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;" Romans 3:26 "To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus."
101G.
