Thomas... My Lord and my God

[mikesw]

Try me. I will add zero commentary and paste straight scripture from your preferred version to answer any question you have. I'll prove you to be an atheist when you reject what the Bible says. You won't be able to blame me anymore. Now go for it.

That is stupid. You abuse scripture references and say you made an argument. Before you do anything, try to learn proper interpretation of scripture as well as debate skills. All you have been doing is sort of proof texts without context. Here's a clue. You may think you have evidence or an argument, but in reality you fail to do that. Hope you can acquire these skills sooner than later.

 

[Runningman]

That is stupid.

Proverbs 15
1A gentle answer turns away wrath,
but a harsh word stirs up anger.

You abuse scripture references and say you made an argument.

2 Timothy 3
16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work.

Before you do anything, try to learn proper interpretation of scripture as well as debate skills.

2 Peter 1
20Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture comes from one’s own interpretation. 21For no such prophecy was ever brought forth by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

All you have been doing is sort of proof texts without context.

Acts 17
11Now the Bereans were more noble-minded than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if these teachings were true.

Here's a clue. You may think you have evidence or an argument, but in reality you fail to do that. Hope you can acquire these skills sooner than later.

1 Corinthians 2
5so that your faith would not rest on men’s wisdom, but on God’s power.

 

[360watt]

Colossians 2:8-10 KJV - Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

 

[Runningman]

Colossians 2
18let no one beguile you of your prize, delighting in humble-mindedness and in worship of the messengers, intruding into the things he hath not seen, being vainly puffed up by the mind of his flesh, 19and not holding the head, from which all the body — through the joints and bands gathering supply, and being knit together — may increase with the increase of God.

 

[mikesw]

Proverbs 15
1A gentle answer turns away wrath,
but a harsh word stirs up anger.

2 Timothy 3
16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work.

2 Peter 1
20Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture comes from one’s own interpretation. 21For no such prophecy was ever brought forth by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

Acts 17
11Now the Bereans were more noble-minded than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if these teachings were true.

1 Corinthians 2
5so that your faith would not rest on men’s wisdom, but on God’s power.

Ouch. You must feel bruised and beaten up with those passages testifying against you. I figure you were sharing these verses as your effort to repent. It will be a wonderful moment to hear you repent in light of you possibly having been convicted by these verses.

 

[synergy]

Already read your list of "gaffes" as you call them. I have completely debunked all of these at one point or another. I want you to follow me around for a few more weeks taking notes. You have work to do, trin, get to it.

Once again you choose to run away from correcting your Gaffes. You have named yourself very appropriately: the RunningMan.

 

[Runningman]

Ouch. You must feel bruised and beaten up with those passages testifying against you. I figure you were sharing these verses as your effort to repent. It will be a wonderful moment to hear you repent in light of you possibly having been convicted by these verses.

Your response is confrontational, somewhat smug and condescending, even though I just quoted nothing, but Scripture. Where is the amen? You're proving my point exactly. You don't listen to anything I say and you don't listen to the Bible. Not only is your three headed pagan god not found in scripture, you have the audacity to argue until the cows come home with those who don't share in your delusions. Classic.

 

[Runningman]

Once again you choose to run away from correcting your Gaffes. You have named yourself very appropriately: the RunningMan.

Yet I am still here every day!

 

[mikesw]

Your response is confrontational, somewhat smug and condescending, even though I just quoted nothing, but Scripture. Where is the amen? You're proving my point exactly. You don't listen to anything I say and you don't listen to the Bible.

You just have proven again your mistaken idea that you think you have an argument by just quoting scriptures. How does my identification of these passages as exposing your sin differ from what you have done with posting scriptures without explaining your reason for them? It is not about my interaction with scripture. the issue is your failure to recognize that scripture is interpreted. I simply added missing interpretation relating to your use of verses.

Not only is your three headed pagan god not found in scripture, you have the audacity to argue until the cows come home with those who don't share in your delusions. Classic.

Ouch. I cannot believe you call Jesus part of a three headed pagan god. That is a sacrilege. There was not even room for pagan influence in the writing of scripture, not even going into the the early centuries when the Triune essence of God was initially being addressed. You really start to sound like a Sadducee when speaking against Christ like that.

 

[Runningman]

You just have proven again your mistaken idea that you think you have an argument by just quoting scriptures. How does my identification of these passages as exposing your sin differ from what you have done with posting scriptures without explaining your reason for them? It is not about my interaction with scripture. the issue is your failure to recognize that scripture is interpreted. I simply added missing interpretation relating to your use of verses.


Ouch. I cannot believe you call Jesus part of a three headed pagan god. That is a sacrilege. There was not even room for pagan influence in the writing of scripture, not even going into the the early centuries when the Triune essence of God was initially being addressed. You really start to sound like a Sadducee when speaking against Christ like that.

God isn't a trinity according to the Bible though. I can say anything about the trinity and it's the same as talking about Zeus or Hermes. It's just your mythology. Actually, I would leave you and your religion alone if you weren't bothering my religion and blaspheming God every day by saying He's a man or a three person being. That's a big no no and I must either make sure this does not go unaddressed if I see it or at least distract your long enough to not be effective in your possibly unwitting attempts to drag people to hell with you. You don't have a sin sacrifice in your religion because God can't die.

 

[mikesw]

God isn't a trinity according to the Bible though. I can say anything about the trinity and it's the same as talking about Zeus or Hermes. It's just your mythology. Actually, I would leave you and your religion alone if you weren't bothering my religion and blaspheming God every day by saying He's a man or a three person being. That's a big no no and I must either make sure this does not go unaddressed if I see it or at least distract your long enough to not be effective in your possibly unwitting attempts to drag people to hell with you. You don't have a sin sacrifice in your religion because God can't die.

you are getting rather vile in your denials of Christ. You go so far as to make God out to be like false gods. That is an unholy stance by you. And then you become bolder in your rejections as time continues. I just hope you are not going too far along this wayward path.

The best I can figure that happened with you is that when you did not get a defense of the Triune God in the church you were at that you searched for denials of the Triune God instead of for the arguments in support of him. Once you got on that track, you started pushing verses toward that reading and now you cannot escape that anymore. You should have read the defense of the Triune God first. Maybe before going further in analysis of scripture it would have helped to go deeper into testing your ability to interpret properly.

 

[Runningman]

you are getting rather vile in your denials of Christ. You go so far as to make God out to be like false gods. That is an unholy stance by you. And then you become bolder in your rejections as time continues. I just hope you are not going too far along this wayward path.

The best I can figure that happened with you is that when you did not get a defense of the Triune God in the church you were at that you searched for denials of the Triune God instead of for the arguments in support of him. Once you got on that track, you started pushing verses toward that reading and now you cannot escape that anymore. You should have read the defense of the Triune God first. Maybe before going further in analysis of scripture it would have helped to go deeper into testing your ability to interpret properly.

We don't have the same religion or the same God. That's why what seems vile or unholy to you is actually just mundane coffee table talk about a false religion to me. Yet, I feel the same way about you.

The difference between you and me is that I am a Christian and you are not. I believe what Jesus taught about God and I accept to have the same God as Jesus. It's really as simple as that. There is nothing that "happened" with me. I'm on the right track because I am believing and doing what Jesus believed.

 

[mikesw]

We don't have the same religion or the same God. That's why what seems vile or unholy to you is actually just mundane coffee table talk about a false religion to me. Yet, I feel the same way about you.

The difference between you and me is that I am a Christian and you are not. I believe what Jesus taught about God and I accept to have the same God as Jesus. It's really as simple as that. There is nothing that "happened" with me. I'm on the right track because I am believing and doing what Jesus believed.

You do not believe in Christ Jesus. I'm sorry if I have pushed you to further extremism. I'm not the best apologist. A better approach probably would have called for less harsh push for you to address the passages that you neglect when trying to prove your theory about Christ Jesus. I can probably track more of the unitarians' bad doctrines beyond just reducing Christ Jesus to just fleshly living and separate from God.
If you have arguments to overcome the divinity of Christ, it could be a good time to start sharing those and see if they make sense to other people. Still, you have had a year to come up with something, so maybe you do not have it figured out yet.

 

[360watt]

Weird thing..

Believing Jesus is Saviour, the Messiah, Lord even.. even sinless too..

But not God.

If Jesus had that power to be Saviour, Messiah etc..

Then He isn't mortal.
If He isnt mortal.. you are only left with Him being God.

Flawed people can't be sinless..or the Messiah. They can be 'a' Messiah in a philosophical way.

They can be 'a' lord.. like a king or landlord.

They can be 'a' saviour like the guy who has the winch to rescue my car.

But not THE Saviour