You have it backwards. Unitarians like you are one verse unitarians because you use John 17:3 (without v5) to interpret the whole of scripture. People who see the Triune God of scripture have many verses that show the divinity of Christ. We understand that the Triune God is not reduced to one verse.
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Peterlag
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The word did not become flesh and walk around. God had a plan and a purpose which became flesh when Jesus was conceived.
synergy
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I could easily triple the list if I included all your Gaffes that you committed before I started creating your List of Gaffes.
I've already learned that you're a heretic in every sense of the word and who runs away from correcting his Gaffes as quickly as his legs can carry him.
Runningman
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Immediately contradicted by the very next verse. Do you understand about reading entire passages, not just single lines that seem to support your beliefs?
2 Peter 1
2Grace and peace be multiplied to you through the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord.
Runningman
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I already debunked your flimsy John 1:1 argument. Why would see the need follow me around the forum like a lost puppy for weeks, spamming the forum with the same copy & paste, if you thought you had won? You know the word is not the God, you know the word is not the creator, you know the true Light didn't come into the world until after Jesus was already 30 years old, you know that John explicitly stated the Lamb of God is a human being, that was created by God, and took a water baptism of repentence. You want it all to go away, but it won't and there is nothing you can do about it. So your strategy? Bury it and try to forget it, but don't worry, I'll be the one to remind you.
Runningman
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I got it correct. The Bible states that the one and only true God is the Father. John 17:3, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Ephesians 4:6, etc. Yes, the Bible explicitly stating the Father is the only true God gives us invincible confidence. Your ancestors learned that there is nothing they can say to change a Christian's mind about this and that stamping them out using persecution was the only option. That still didn't work. The gates of hell will not prevail against this church.
Runningman
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Shhh... they think words are a person still. Let's break it to them gently that God's words are not a person external to Himself anymore than wisdom is a literal woman, the church a literal bride, sin a literal predator/master, death as a taunting enemy, creation as a worshiper, wealth/mammon a master, cities being females, love & mercy being active beings, etc.
The Bible is filled with personification of things like words, wisdom, or otherwise. Imagine how absurd it would be to argue that the church as a bride is a literal woman and that all men in the church are transgender as a result. Sometimes literalism can go unchecked and unchallenged. Wacko world trinitarians worshipping words as their god is just a picture of this. Notice they avoid 1John 1:1-3 like the plague because it defines the Word as a thing.
Uh. Maybe I have to expose your imaginary world where you are Jesus telling the Pharisees of their past of killing the prophets of their ancestors. I see how you deceive yourself. There is no bloodline of true believers in Christ. But even though there were people who killed the unitarian heretics, that does not make their heresy correct now.
Your heresy leaves a trail of verses you can only explain with weak ideas or completely unaddressed all so you can deny who Christ is. Then you rejoice that those items go unanswered in your view.
Runningman
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What I see if you have completely given up quoting the Bible because you don't have anywhere to run anymore. I have already been talking to you for months, I guess over a year now. At the beginning you quoted the Bible a lot, but not anymore. I don't remember the last time you actually talked about anything the Bible says, instead you have formed all of your arguments about your feelings/perception of me recently. I just proved to you that the Bible says the Father is the one and only true God, you attempted to brush it aside, but it's still there. Nothing has been refuted, nothing has changed.
You can't beat the bible, Mike. Many of you have tried, all of you have failed. Give up already.
Peterlag
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Adam is called a“type” of Jesus Christ (Romans 5:14). The word translated as “type” in many English versions is the translation of the Greek word tupos (τύπος) which can be defined as “a type, pattern, model, or example of something else.” Although the KJV translates tuposas “figure” most of the more modern versions say “pattern” (NIV), “prototype” (HCSB), or “type” (ESV, NAB, NASB). Adam was a type, prototype, or pattern of Christ because he was fully human and began without a sin nature—and Jesus was the same: fully human and made without a sin nature. The reason no other human male after Adam could be a “type” of Christ is that we are all born with a sin nature. Adam could not be a “type” of Christ if Jesus was 100% man and 100% God because Adam did not have a “God-nature.”
you just trample over passages that you cannot explain. even when you explain verses, it is nonsensical. You do not win debates by neglecting the difficult issues.
you have not provided any decent arguments to lead us to your heresy.
Nope. But I can try to lead you to the Bible truths.
Right you are impervious to the truth. Are you really wanting to remain ignorant?
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Runningman
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I can explain everything in the Bible. You simply reject how these explanations co-exist with the fact that the Father is the only true God. The Father being the one and only true God is an objective statement that stings your ears and puts a bad taste in your mouth. You cannot except the entire Bible supporting the fact that the Father alone is God Almighty. You should stop treating Scripture like your enemy and try to believe it since you have decided to engage the Bible. Is that something you have considered or is it your goal to just try to debunk it?
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