Thomas... My Lord and my God

[Peterlag]

Everything I could find on Thomas...

“My Lord and my God.” A very likely way to understand John 20:28 is that Thomas had realized the power of God working in Jesus, and in saying “my Lord and my God” he was pointing out that Jesus did, in fact, reveal God in a unique and powerful way. In seeing the resurrected Jesus, Thomas clearly saw both the Lord Jesus, and the God who raised Jesus from the dead, and he stated that fact. Jesus always taught that he only did what God guided him to do, and said that if you had seen him you had seen the Father. In that light, there is good evidence that here in John 20:28, “doubting Thomas” was saying that in seeing Jesus he was also seeing the Father.

We have to remember that Thomas’ statement occurred in a moment of surprise and even perhaps shock. Only eight days earlier, Thomas had vehemently denied Jesus’ resurrection even though all the other apostles and disciples, including the women, emphatically stated that they had seen Jesus alive. Thomas could no longer deny that Jesus was alive and that God had raised him from the dead. The Father had worked in Jesus and raised him from the dead. Thomas, looking at the living Jesus, saw both Jesus and the God who raised him from the dead.

When Thomas saw the resurrected Christ, he became immediately convinced that Jesus was raised from the dead. But did he suddenly have a revelation that Jesus was God? That would be totally outside of Thomas’ knowledge and belief. Jesus had never claimed to be God (despite Trinitarian claims that he had) and in fact quite the opposite. From the cross he called out to the Father, “My God, My God” (Matt. 27:46); then after his resurrection he still called God, “my God” (John 20:17).

In the other places in the Bible where the apostles speak about the resurrection of Jesus, they do not declare, “This proves Jesus is God!” Rather, they declare that “God” raised the Lord Jesus from the dead” (Acts 2:24, 32; 3:15; 4:10, 5:30, 10:39-40, 13:30, 33, 37; Rom. 10:9; 1 Cor. 6:14; 15:15; Gal. 1:1; Col. 2:12; 1 Pet. 1:21). From all those examples we can safely conclude that the apostles, including Thomas, saw God at work in the resurrection of Jesus from the dead. The apostles understood Jesus’ resurrection to be an act of God, and a demonstration of His power (Eph. 1:19-20).

There are many Trinitarian authorities who admit that there was no knowledge of Trinitarian doctrine at the time Thomas spoke. For example, if the disciples believed that Jesus was “God” in the sense that many Christians do, they would not have “all fled” just a few days before when he was arrested. The confession of the two disciples walking along the road to Emmaus demonstrated the thoughts of Jesus’ followers at the time. Speaking to the resurrected Christ, whom they mistook as just a traveler, they talked about Jesus. They said Jesus “was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God… and [they] crucified him. But we were hoping that he was the one who was about to redeem Israel” (Luke 24:19-21). The disciples thought Jesus was the Messiah, a “prophet,” and the Son of God, but not God Himself.

Are we to believe that somehow Jesus taught the Trinity, something that went against everything the disciples were taught and believed, but there is no mention of Jesus ever teaching it anywhere, and yet the disciples somehow “got” that teaching? That seems too incredible to believe. There is no evidence from the gospel accounts that Jesus’ disciples believed him to be God, and Thomas, upon seeing the resurrected Christ, was not birthing a new theology in a moment of surprise.

 

[atpollard]

If Jesus was so clear in his NON-GODHOOD, why did the native speakers listening to his actual words keep getting it wrong and trying to stone Jesus for claiming equality with God?

Your position is nonsensical.

 

[101G]

Thomas... My Lord and my God..... the same with the prophecy of David. Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

MY "Lord" is the "LORD" in flesh bone and blood. as been saying the same Lord in verse 1 is the same "Lord" in verse 5 at the "LORD'S Right". and the Lord in verse 5 is,
H136 אֲדֹנָי 'Adonay (ad-o-noy') n-m.
1. (meaning) Lord (used as a proper name of God only).
2. (person) Adonai, The Lord God of Israel (which is actually “Yahweh God of Israel” - see Exodus 5:1 and 120 other occurrences).
[am emphatic form of H113]
KJV: (my) Lord.
Root(s): H113
Compare: H3068, H1167, H1168
See also: G2962

GL.

101G.

 

[Peterlag]

Thomas... My Lord and my God..... the same with the prophecy of David. Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

MY "Lord" is the "LORD" in flesh bone and blood. as been saying the same Lord in verse 1 is the same "Lord" in verse 5 at the "LORD'S Right". and the Lord in verse 5 is,
H136 אֲדֹנָי 'Adonay (ad-o-noy') n-m.
1. (meaning) Lord (used as a proper name of God only).
2. (person) Adonai, The Lord God of Israel (which is actually “Yahweh God of Israel” - see Exodus 5:1 and 120 other occurrences).
[am emphatic form of H113]
KJV: (my) Lord.
Root(s): H113
Compare: H3068, H1167, H1168
See also: G2962

GL.

101G.

The title "Lord" (Greek, Kurious) as Kittel's observes, means "one who has full authority." In the Old Testament, God alone had "full authority" and filled both functions of Creator (Elohim) and Lord (Jehovah). Jehovah is used in connection with men with whom He has entered into some kind of covenant, starting with Adam in Genesis 2:7, and including Israel. Several redemptive characteristics and divine functions are associated with the sacred name Jehovah (Yahweh), including giving righteousness (Jeremiah 23:6), healing (Exodus 15:26), sanctification (Exodus 31:13), providing (Genesis 22:14), protection from enemies (Exodus 17:15), giving peace (Judges 6:24), and being continually present (Ezekiel 48:35). These functions can be assumed and/or delegated by persons having the authority. God has delegated many, if not all of these divine functions to Jesus Christ to share in as "Lord."

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

If Jesus was so clear in his NON-GODHOOD, why did the native speakers listening to his actual words keep getting it wrong and trying to stone Jesus for claiming equality with God?

Because Jesus had called them sons of the devil, discovered their murderous intentions and nullified the importance of their status as descendants of Abraham. Please read the whole chapter, @atpollard.
Those wanting to stone Him were not sincere monotheists concerned about a theological blasphemy. They were wicked people getting mad at He who had revealed the evil in his hearts.

Now Let me ask you two questions:

1. If Jesus had been so so clear in his Godhood, why wasn’t he accused of that specific blasphemy during his trial before the Sanhedrin?
Wouldn’t such confession be the most direct way to sentence Him to death? Instead, he was accused of blasphemy against the Temple and He was questioned about his status as the Messiah.

2. When you say “equality with God” in your post, who is this God you are referring to?

 

[Fred]

When a believer in the Bible uses the expression "my God" it is always in reference to the Almighty.

"Thomas answered and said unto Him..." in reference to Jesus. (John 20:28)

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Post in thread 'Introducing the Son of (his) Father God - John 1:18, 20:17b'

Oct 25, 2023

my Lord and my God indeed! He acknowledged and distinguished both in one short statement and breath, in excitement. He never said that his Lord is now also his God. You are saying this for reasons unknown! That you need to prove Fred, in context, and you cannot ever do that I'm afraid.

Just as Jesus is "my Lord" so too is He "my God."

Thomas answered and said unto Him (Jesus).

For your education:
1. BDAG (3rd Edition): Concerning John 20:28 states that theos "certainly refers to Christ" (theos, page 450).
2. Theological Dictionary of the New Testament...

• Fred

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[Fred]

In the other places in the Bible where the apostles speak about the resurrection of Jesus, they do not declare, “This proves Jesus is God!”

The resurrection of Jesus is used in association with the fact that He is YHWH.

See Acts 2:21 (cf. 2:23-32) and Romans 10:13 (cf. 10:9).

 

[Fred]

1. If Jesus had been so so clear in his Godhood, why wasn’t he accused of that specific blasphemy during his trial before the Sanhedrin?

He was accused of this specific blasphemy.

Mark 14:60-64
60 And the high priest stood up in the midst, and asked Jesus, saying, Answerest Thou nothing? What is it which these witness against Thee?
61 But He held His peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked Him, and said unto Him, Art Thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?
62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of Man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
63 Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses?
64 Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned Him to be guilty of death.


https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/one-god.501/page-2#post-15733

 

[civic]

If Jesus was so clear in his NON-GODHOOD, why did the native speakers listening to his actual words keep getting it wrong and trying to stone Jesus for claiming equality with God?

Your position is nonsensical.

The million dollar question they cannot answer.

 

[101G]

The title "Lord" (Greek, Kurious) as Kittel's observes, means "one who has full authority." In the Old Testament, God alone had "full authority" and filled both functions of Creator (Elohim) and Lord (Jehovah). Jehovah is used in connection with men with whom He has entered into some kind of covenant, starting with Adam in Genesis 2:7, and including Israel. Several redemptive characteristics and divine functions are associated with the sacred name Jehovah (Yahweh), including giving righteousness (Jeremiah 23:6), healing (Exodus 15:26), sanctification (Exodus 31:13), providing (Genesis 22:14), protection from enemies (Exodus 17:15), giving peace (Judges 6:24), and being continually present (Ezekiel 48:35). These functions can be assumed and/or delegated by persons having the authority. God has delegated many, if not all of these divine functions to Jesus Christ to share in as "Lord."

GINOLJC to all,
first you ERROR in your statement. Jesus the "Lord" is the "LORD" in the OT..... without flesh, without bone, and without blood. this is he who created all things by himself, for he was alone. see John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24. so, the JESUS is CREATOR and MAKER of all things as LORD/Father, the Ordinal First.

and in Flesh, with bone, and with Blood he is REDEEMER, and SAVIOUR of all that he created and Made, as the Lors/Son, the Ordinal Last.

this is your mistake of IGNORANCE in not knowing the TRUTH of his ECHAD as one.

GL.

1O1G.

 

[atpollard]

1. If Jesus had been so so clear in his Godhood, why wasn’t he accused of that specific blasphemy during his trial before the Sanhedrin?
Wouldn’t such confession be the most direct way to sentence Him to death? Instead, he was accused of blasphemy against the Temple and He was questioned about his status as the Messiah.

Request for Clarification: Which TRIAL are you specifically referencing? (Chapter please).

I recall several mock trials of Jesus in the middle of the night and only Apostles actually appearing before the Sanhedrin to face a legal questioning [in Acts] ... but my old memory ain't exactly encyclopedic.

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

Request for Clarification: Which TRIAL are you specifically referencing? (Chapter please).

I recall several mock trials of Jesus in the middle of the night and only Apostles actually appearing before the Sanhedrin to face a legal questioning [in Acts] ... but my old memory ain't exactly encyclopedic.

Good morning atpollard

I'm referring to the trial before the Sanhedrin mentioned in all three synoptic gospels: Matthew 26:57-67, Mark 14:53-65, and Luke 22:66-71

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

The million dollar question they cannot answer.

The answer is:
Because Jesus had called them sons of the devil, uncovered their murderous intentions and nullified the importance of their status as descendants of Abraham. Those wanting to stone Him were not sincere monotheists concerned about a theological blasphemy. They were wicked people getting mad at He who had revealed the evil in their hearts.

Here is the passage:

They answered Him, “We are Abraham’s descendants, and have never been in bondage to anyone. How can You say, ‘You will be made free’?”​

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Jesus answered them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin. And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever. Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.​

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“I know that you are Abraham’s descendants, but you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you. I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you do what you have seen with your father.”​

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They answered and said to Him, “Abraham is our father.”​

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Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. You do the deeds of your father.”​

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Then they said to Him, “We were not born of fornication; we have one Father—God.”​

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Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.”​

Then the Jews answered and said to Him, “Do we not say rightly that You are a Samaritan and have a demon?”​

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Jesus answered, “I do not have a demon; but I honor My Father, and you dishonor Me. And I do not seek My own glory; there is One who seeks and judges. Most assuredly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he shall never see death.”​

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Then the Jews said to Him, “Now we know that You have a demon! Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and You say, ‘If anyone keeps My word he shall never taste death.’ Are You greater than our father Abraham, who is dead? And the prophets are dead. Who do You make Yourself out to be?”​

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Jesus answered, “If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your God. Yet you have not known Him, but I know Him. And if I say, ‘I do not know Him,’ I shall be a liar like you; but I do know Him and keep His word. Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.”​

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Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”​

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Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”​

Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.​

Indeed, in the same passage, as we all can read, Jesus makes clear that

• God had sent him. Jesus had not come by Himself.
• Jesus spoke the words he had heard from God.
• Jesus did not seek his own glory, but to honor God.
• Jesus obeyed God (kept His Word).

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

He was accused of this specific blasphemy.

Mark 14:60-64
60 And the high priest stood up in the midst, and asked Jesus, saying, Answerest Thou nothing? What is it which these witness against Thee?
61 But He held His peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked Him, and said unto Him, Art Thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?
62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of Man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
63 Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses?
64 Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned Him to be guilty of death.


https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/one-god.501/page-2#post-15733

That's correct.
And in that statement Jesus does not claim to be God.
He claims to be the Anointed (The Messiah, The Christ), and he claims to sit "on the right hand of power". So, he recognizes He is not God.
By definition, God can't be anointed by anyone else, cannot be the Son of anyone else and can't sit on the right hand of anyone else.

... unless, of course, you adopt a polytheistic view of the world, like the ancient Greeks.
Under such view, Hermes, for example, can be a god and yet be the son of Zeus, anointed by Zeus to speak on behalf of Zeus, and can be invited by Zeus to sit on his right hand.

 

[atpollard]

I'm referring to the trial before the Sanhedrin mentioned in all three synoptic gospels: Matthew 26:57-67

[Mat 26:57-66 AMP]

57 Those who had seized Jesus led Him away to Caiaphas, the high priest, where the scribes and the elders (Sanhedrin, Jewish High Court) had gathered [illegally] together. 58 But Peter followed Him at a distance as far as the courtyard of the [elegant home of the Jewish] high priest, and went inside, and sat with the guards to see the outcome. ​

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59 Now the chief priests and the whole Council (Sanhedrin, Jewish High Court) tried to get false witnesses to testify against Jesus, so that they might [have a reason to] put Him to death. 60 They found none, even though many false witnesses came forward. At last two came forward, 61 and testified, "This man said, 'I am able to tear down the temple of God and rebuild it in three days.'" 62 The high priest stood up and said to Jesus, "Have You no answer to give? What is it that these men are testifying against You?" 63 But Jesus kept silent. And the high priest said to Him, "I call on You to swear a binding oath by the living God, that you tell us whether You are the Christ, the Son of God." 64 Jesus said to him, "You have [in fact] said it; but more than that I tell you [regardless of what you do with Me now], in the future you will see [Me revealed as] THE SON OF MAN SEATED AT THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER, and COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN." ​

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65 Then the high priest tore his robes [in mock horror] and exclaimed, "He has blasphemed [by making Himself God's equal]! What further need have we of witnesses or evidence? See, you have now heard the blasphemy. 66 "What do you think?" They answered, "He deserves to be put to death."​

So back to our respective statements ... the charge was "blasphemy" [just as the CROWD accused him of and the AMP translation explicitly notes that Jesus' response "THE SON OF MAN SEATED AT THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER, and COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN" was claiming equality with God].

He was not killed for any other charge against "the Temple" ... He was killed for claiming to be God [as he deserved unless the claim was true!]

 

[atpollard]

JESUS: "THE SON OF MAN SEATED AT THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER, and COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN."

FYI:
[Dan 7:13-14 AMP]

13 "I kept looking in the night visions, And behold, on the clouds of heaven One like a Son of Man was coming, And He came up to the Ancient of Days And was presented before Him.​

14 "And to Him (the Messiah) was given dominion (supreme authority), Glory and a kingdom, That all the peoples, nations, and speakers of every language Should serve and worship Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion Which will not pass away; And His kingdom is one Which will not be destroyed.​

[Psa 110:1-7 AMP]

1 A Psalm of David. The LORD (Father) says to my Lord (the Messiah, His Son), "Sit at My right hand Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet [subjugating them into complete submission]." 2 The LORD will send the scepter of Your strength from Zion, saying, "Rule in the midst of Your enemies." 3 Your people will offer themselves willingly [to participate in Your battle] in the day of Your power; In the splendor of holiness, from the womb of the dawn, Your young men are to You as the dew. ​

4 The LORD has sworn [an oath] and will not change His mind: "You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek." 5 The LORD is at Your right hand, He will crush kings in the day of His wrath. 6 He will execute judgment [in overwhelming punishment] among the nations; He will fill them with corpses, He will crush the chief men over a broad country. 7 He will drink from the brook by the wayside; Therefore He will lift up His head [triumphantly].​

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I bet the Sanhedrin knew these verses!

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

[Mat 26:57-66 AMP]

57 Those who had seized Jesus led Him away to Caiaphas, the high priest, where the scribes and the elders (Sanhedrin, Jewish High Court) had gathered [illegally] together. 58 But Peter followed Him at a distance as far as the courtyard of the [elegant home of the Jewish] high priest, and went inside, and sat with the guards to see the outcome. ​

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59 Now the chief priests and the whole Council (Sanhedrin, Jewish High Court) tried to get false witnesses to testify against Jesus, so that they might [have a reason to] put Him to death. 60 They found none, even though many false witnesses came forward. At last two came forward, 61 and testified, "This man said, 'I am able to tear down the temple of God and rebuild it in three days.'" 62 The high priest stood up and said to Jesus, "Have You no answer to give? What is it that these men are testifying against You?" 63 But Jesus kept silent. And the high priest said to Him, "I call on You to swear a binding oath by the living God, that you tell us whether You are the Christ, the Son of God." 64 Jesus said to him, "You have [in fact] said it; but more than that I tell you [regardless of what you do with Me now], in the future you will see [Me revealed as] THE SON OF MAN SEATED AT THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER, and COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN." ​

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65 Then the high priest tore his robes [in mock horror] and exclaimed, "He has blasphemed [by making Himself God's equal]! What further need have we of witnesses or evidence? See, you have now heard the blasphemy. 66 "What do you think?" They answered, "He deserves to be put to death."​

So back to our respective statements ... the charge was "blasphemy" [just as the CROWD accused him of and the AMP translation explicitly notes that Jesus' response "THE SON OF MAN SEATED AT THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER, and COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN" was claiming equality with God].

He was not killed for any other charge against "the Temple" ... He was killed for claiming to be God [as he deserved unless the claim was true!]

I gently invite you to read again.
The question made by the high priest was not if Jesus considered Himself God, but He considered Himself the Messiah (The Annointed, The Christ). I call on You to swear a binding oath by the living God, that you tell us whether You are The Christ, the Son of God."

Jesus answered to THAT question. Jesus answered: "You have said it"
So, Jesus affirmed to be the Messiah.

In addition, Jesus said that they would see him coming on the clouds of heaven seated at the right hand of the Power.
Jesus did not claim to be "The Power", "The Blessed" (title used by Mark), God.

Kings invited those they wanted to honor to sit at their right hand. That's the origin of the metaphor, which is still used today.
God cannot sit at the right of anything or anyone else.

 

[mikesw]

Because Jesus had called them sons of the devil, discovered their murderous intentions and nullified the importance of their status as descendants of Abraham. Please read the whole chapter, @atpollard.
Those wanting to stone Him were not sincere monotheists concerned about a theological blasphemy. They were wicked people getting mad at He who had revealed the evil in his hearts.

Jesus was pointing to prophecy of Genesis 3:15 when he mentioned they were children of the devil. This should have awakened them to investigate their own motives. And I doubt that stoning was allowed just because people were offended. There were limited situations were stoning was permitted. It should be obvious that the only reason the Pharisees had was their accusation of Jesus blaspheming in their estimation.

It is amazing that the answers to these questions have not been remembered by this time.

Now Let me ask you two questions:

1. If Jesus had been so so clear in his Godhood, why wasn’t he accused of that specific blasphemy during his trial before the Sanhedrin?
Wouldn’t such confession be the most direct way to sentence Him to death? Instead, he was accused of blasphemy against the Temple and He was questioned about his status as the Messiah.

Jesus was accused of blasphemy when we see Matt 26:64-66. It was not the temple that was the problem even though that was the lame testimony of liars about destroying the temple. It was Jesus's claim to be the one spoken of in Daniel 7. To miss this connection is to reflect a lack of basic reading comprehension. I see @atpollard has shared this.

2. When you say “equality with God” in your post, who is this God you are referring to?

Let us see here. We can exclude Baal and Molech. We can exclude Zeus and other gods and goddesses that are claimed by various religions. Wait! I know. This is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel -- which we know in Trinitarian conception pointed out in the scriptures.

It is advised that someone not keep espousing ideas that have been clarified. At minimal, the debate should only continue upon recognition of the facts of these events rather than, for example, speculating on undocumented rules for stoning. Surely the passages could have said these Pharisees were just stoning Christ because they were upset with him -- if that were the facts. Otherwise, the only possible reason for stoning him, per the law, is that of an accusation of blasphemy.

 

[mikesw]

I gently invite you to read again.
The question made by the high priest was not if Jesus considered Himself God, but He considered Himself the Messiah (The Annointed, The Christ). I call on You to swear a binding oath by the living God, that you tell us whether You are The Christ, the Son of God."

Jesus answered to THAT question. Jesus answered: "You have said it"
So, Jesus affirmed to be the Messiah.

In addition, Jesus said that they would see him coming on the clouds of heaven seated at the right hand of the Power.
Jesus did not claim to be "The Power", "The Blessed" (title used by Mark), God.

Kings invited those they wanted to honor to sit at their right hand. That's the origin of the metaphor, which is still used today.
God cannot sit at the right of anything or anyone else.

The Pharisees and priests testify that Jesus was equating himself with God. We see that these "leaders" interpreted the context of Daniel such that Christ Jesus was claiming to be divinity. Your speculation has little merit in the face of the testimony of scripture. It must be remembered that the gospel of Matthew was written to appeal to Jews and thus could not be effective if misconstrued by Matthew. Don't try so hard to deny the deity of Christ.

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

Let's remember, dear readers, that Jews would have been RIGHT to consider blasphemous any person who claimed to be God.
No man could come claiming to YHWH, Adonai, The God of Abraham, Isaac of Jacob.
It does not matter how good that man could be, or what miracles he could make, or how wonderful messianic plans he could had.

If any of you travelled in a time machine to Jerusalem in those days, you would have tried to persuade Jews to accept Jesus as their Messiah... not as their God!!!!

Let's be honest: On what basis would you have tried to convince anybody of those Jews that Jesus was YHWH? Would you have invented out of a blue a new theology, without any consideration to the Tanakh and to centuries of monotheism, that have treated God as One Single Person "a He"?

Did the apostles, after Pentecost, try to persuade their fellow countrymen to accept Jesus as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of their ancestors?