The Trinity and the Incarnation

[360watt]

God gave Jesus all authority--How do you explain Michael defeating satan at the war in heaven> Rev 12.
Jesus is Gods son, not God. Catholicism( 2Thess 2:3) translated errors in to fit false council teachings, by satans will in the 4th century.

Explain Jesus forgiving sin of those who have not directly offended Him.

Explain Jesus saying He saw Phillip under a tree when he was physically no where near Phillip.

Explain Jesus being referred to as the Alpha and Omega in Revelation..terms used for the Father.

Explain Jesus saying to the Pharisees He is the I AM. And saying He will be seen as the son of man coming in the clouds.


I can go on and on

 

[Peterlag]

Explain Jesus forgiving sin of those who have not directly offended Him.

Explain Jesus saying He saw Phillip under a tree when he was physically no where near Phillip.

Explain Jesus being referred to as the Alpha and Omega in Revelation..terms used for the Father.

Explain Jesus saying to the Pharisees He is the I AM. And saying He will be seen as the son of man coming in the clouds.


I can go on and on

Explain Jesus saying He saw Phillip under a tree when he was physically no where near Phillip.

God show Phillip to Jesus. It's not rocket science.

 

[360watt]

Explain Jesus saying He saw Phillip under a tree when he was physically no where near Phillip.

God show Phillip to Jesus. It's not rocket science.

That's not what scripture says. Jesus saw Phillip

 

[Peterlag]

That's not what scripture says. Jesus saw Phillip

I saw a room I had never been in because the Lord showed it to me the night before. And I'm not God. It's called revelation from the Lord.

 

[360watt]

I saw a room I had never been in because the Lord showed it to me the night before. And I'm not God. It's called revelation from the Lord.

Completely different context to Jesus doing what He did

 

[MTMattie]

All who know the bible can see Catholicism NEVER had Jesus. It was the great apostasy, they screwed translating up to fit their false council teachings. such as God being a trinity.

Why do you assume that all who "KNOW" the divinity of Jesus are Catholic?

I am not now, never was and never will be.

What Constantine's mother started is simply a shame. And he, dutiful son, listened to mommy dearest.

If " How do you explain Michael defeating satan at the war in heaven> Rev 12."

I dont and neither should you because he was not defeated......... not yet

7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Before using scripture or implying an idea that is not stated.... you best get the entire story

10 ....................for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

13And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth,.....................

 

[Peterlag]

Completely different context to Jesus doing what He did

No it's the same. Jesus saw Phillip before he met him. I saw a room before I was ever there. It's God showing His Prophets stuff. It does not mean Prophets see into the future or that they are God.

 

[DavidTree]

I saw a room I had never been in because the Lord showed it to me the night before. And I'm not God. It's called revelation from the Lord.

But you are not God = "It's not rocket science"

 

[Keiw1]

It is 100% fact that you do not have the Holy Spirit within you.

If you did you would know the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE.

You need to turn away from the false witnesses(watchtower) and follow the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE

Yes the way, the truth and the life=the only way one gets to the Father( Jehovah) to accomplish this-John 4:22-24--the mislead are taught to stop at Jesus.

 

[Keiw1]

How is it that you do not understand?

watchtower deception blinds your mind to the Holy Scriptures of TRUTH

RCC and watchtower = BFF

You will find out different=sad. Jesus compares these last days to Noahs day( 99.9% mislead to destruction)=Few will find the road that leads off into life( be saved)--Your translation is Catholicism translating, how will that work out for your life everlasting since you know they are wrong?

 

[Keiw1]

Explain Jesus forgiving sin of those who have not directly offended Him.

Explain Jesus saying He saw Phillip under a tree when he was physically no where near Phillip.

Explain Jesus being referred to as the Alpha and Omega in Revelation..terms used for the Father.

Explain Jesus saying to the Pharisees He is the I AM. And saying He will be seen as the son of man coming in the clouds.


I can go on and on

God GAVE Jesus all authority in heaven and on Earth to forgive, to judge, etc.
The Hebrew statement in the OT that trinity translations have-i am that i am translates - I will be what i will be from Hebrew to English. Catholicism put i am that i am to mislead because Jesus answered the pharisees-before Abraham was i am= he told them he lived before Abraham, that is all.
Trinity religions say the Alpha and Omega is Jesus but in reality it is Jehovah.

 

[Keiw1]

Why do you assume that all who "KNOW" the divinity of Jesus are Catholic?

I am not now, never was and never will be.

What Constantine's mother started is simply a shame. And he, dutiful son, listened to mommy dearest.

If " How do you explain Michael defeating satan at the war in heaven> Rev 12."

I dont and neither should you because he was not defeated......... not yet

7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Before using scripture or implying an idea that is not stated.... you best get the entire story

10 ....................for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

13And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth,.....................

All protestant religions are branches of Catholicism. They tried to fix things but couldn't because they only had Catholicism error filled and altered( removal of Gods name in over 7000 spots against Gods will) translation to use.

 

[360watt]

God GAVE Jesus all authority in heaven and on Earth to forgive, to judge, etc.
The Hebrew statement in the OT that trinity translations have-i am that i am translates - I will be what i will be from Hebrew to English. Catholicism put i am that i am to mislead because Jesus answered the pharisees-before Abraham was i am= he told them he lived before Abraham, that is all.
Trinity religions say the Alpha and Omega is Jesus but in reality it is Jehovah.

If He lived before Abraham, how old would that make Him? Because then He would be a pre incarnate Christ which would point to what?

His deity!

Come on now!

 

[MTMattie]

All protestant religions are branches of Catholicism. They tried to fix things but couldn't because they only had Catholicism error filled and altered( removal of Gods name in over 7000 spots against Gods will) translation to use.

Ah, can you provide something that shows this was done? Such as a before document?

(removal of Gods name in over 7000 spots against Gods will)

Also

and altered translation to use.?

I am not above being corrected provided there is valid documentation.

And while you are at it... How about proof that The Hebrew Bible or Tanakh also known in Hebrew as Miqra, which is the canonical collection of Hebrew scriptures, comprising the Torah, the Nevi'im, and the Ketuvim and even the Septuagint LXX which was before the Catholics did the Catholic thing.... and it is with certainty the Jews would not put up with the Catholics removing anything.....

Or the Aramaic bible to name a few that were written long before the Catholics did the Catholic thing

 

[DavidTree]

Yes the way, the truth and the life=the only way one gets to the Father( Jehovah) to accomplish this-John 4:22-24--the mislead are taught to stop at Jesus.

The misled(RCC & watchtower) teach you to avoid JESUS as the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE

The FATHER is never called jehovah in the Gospel.

JESUS has the SAME Name as the FATHER

 

[DavidTree]

You will find out different=sad. Jesus compares these last days to Noahs day( 99.9% mislead to destruction)=Few will find the road that leads off into life( be saved)--Your translation is Catholicism translating, how will that work out for your life everlasting since you know they are wrong?

no JESUS no Salvation(ARK)
know JESUS know the WAY the TRUTH the LIFE

RCC & watchtower = BFF

 

[Keiw1]

If He lived before Abraham, how old would that make Him? Because then He would be a pre incarnate Christ which would point to what?

His deity!

Come on now!

Prov 8:22-30--Jesus is Gods master worker= the one who was beside God during creation. When one looks up the word possessed in Hebrew at 8:22 = it means created. Jesus is-the FIRSTBORN of all creation.

 

[Johann]

Prov 8:22-30--Jesus is Gods master worker= the one who was beside God during creation. When one looks up the word possessed in Hebrew at 8:22 = it means created. Jesus is-the FIRSTBORN of all creation.

A big mistake @Keiw1.

J.

 

[Keiw1]

Ah, can you provide something that shows this was done? Such as a before document?

(removal of Gods name in over 7000 spots against Gods will)

Also

and altered translation to use.?

I am not above being corrected provided there is valid documentation.

And while you are at it... How about proof that The Hebrew Bible or Tanakh also known in Hebrew as Miqra, which is the canonical collection of Hebrew scriptures, comprising the Torah, the Nevi'im, and the Ketuvim and even the Septuagint LXX which was before the Catholics did the Catholic thing.... and it is with certainty the Jews would not put up with the Catholics removing anything.....

Or the Aramaic bible to name a few that were written long before the Catholics did the Catholic thing

Any can look that up for self=In the OT the tetragramaton= Gods name=YHWH or YHVH, Not GOD or LORD as is found in altered translations-nearly 6800 places God willed his name there, Quoted in NT over 200 spots in NT. Even Jerome told the Catholic leader Gods name belongs in the NT before he translated, But it was they who removed it in the 4th century=The Latin Vulgate and Codex sinacticus. All protestant translations came from those 2 Catholicism works.

 

[Keiw1]

The misled(RCC & watchtower) teach you to avoid JESUS as the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE

The FATHER is never called jehovah in the Gospel.

JESUS has the SAME Name as the FATHER

You are being mislead, you better recheck reality.