The Old Testament: Obsolete and Embarrassing or still valid today?

[DavidTree]

Just curious what might have been fulfilled by

Deu 25:11 “When men fight with one another and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts,
Deu 25:12 then you shall cut off her hand. Your eye shall have no pity.

'nut-thing'

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

Just FYI. Jew comes primarily from Judah. The tribes of Benjamin and Judah largely separated themselves from Israel under King Rehoboam. God condemned Jeroboam in the book of Amos.

When Paul referenced himself as a "Hebrew of Hebrews" he was appealing to the fact that he came from a "pure" line of descendants that didn't widely marry outside of the 12 tribes of Israel through the tribe of Benjamin.

The word "Hebrew" used in Paul's reference in Philippians 3:4 is rather unique. If anyone could appeal to be in the faithful "flesh" of Abraham it was Paul.

@jeremiah1five is a false prophet that has not idea what he is talking about.

thats what i said . the term jew comes primarily from the two tribes in JERSUALEM . i said this my near and dear friend .
And as far as being faithful in the flesh , THAT WONT PROFIT a man .
cause the last time i checked there is none who is good and sins not . Paul
made sure to tell the churches about how none of that concerned him , that rather
he counted all that as dung to win Christ .
So men can try and do as they can try and do , But rejecting CHRIST JESUS will seal their fate . DOOMSDAY .
Because if a man rejects JESUS THE CHRIST , THEY REJECT GOD . if a man rejects GOD , oh his end sure wont be good .
BUT GOD does desire life for all . ITS TIME to remind them OF WHOM THE FATHER SENT
so as they can BELEIVE IN HIM and have etneral life and not perish .
But remember this , if any man beleives not the testimony that GOD gave of HIS SON
they do not love GOD , rather they are calling GOD a LIAR . and ps LIARS go to the lake of fire .
SO , yeah i would not preach the all inclusive false love gospel . That dead end thing wont be saving squat .
Rather its time to preach the dire need TO FIRST BELEIVE THAT JESUS IS THE SAVOIR , THE CHRIST , THE SON OF GOD
that HE did rise from the grave and etc . AND To remind the church , HEY CHURCH , JESUS AINT THE MINSTIR OF SIN
so if your jesus accepts your sins , YEAH ITS THE DEVIL IN WOOL using his name .

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

If you want to know who really is serving God, the notice how they preach the Person of Jesus Christ.

No man who is of CHRIST would say we dont need to beleive on him .
AND those who do beleive on HIM would not then try and Use him as a supporter of their sins either .
Many can lip the name of JESUS and yet follow satan . OH YES they can . I SURE DID IT FOR YEARS and years .
AND GUESS what i still could help the poor too . I WAS SATANS right hand man .
BUT KNOW this too . NO man who truly is HIS would imply there is no need to beleive on HIM either .
WE GOT WOLVES pardner . and they all over chritendom . fake love is all they preach .

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

'nut-thing'

if you grab the acorns beware, for the squirrel bites the hand that seizes its ..............

 

[Peterlag]

Three thousand Jews were born again as recorded in Acts by Luke and they were ALL Jewish Christian or Christ-followers. Jesus Christ was Promised to the Hebrew people in order to save the Hebrew people, hence His Name "Jesus" for He shall save His people from their sin (Matt. 1:21.) Jesus didn't die to atone for non-Hebrew Gentiles. He came to atone for the sins of the children of Israel and only they are recipients of eternal life.
The animal sacrifice under the Law was to atone for the sins of the children of Israel as commanded by the Law and this was done yearly until God would send forth His Son under the Law made of a woman to redeem those under the Law and this identifies the children of Israel.
The high priest never left Israel and go to the Gentile people that surround them and offer sacrifices for them or pray for them. The high priest was commanded by God in the Law to offer animal sacrifices to atone for the sins of the children of Israel. And since Scripture cannot be broken and Jesus came to fulfill the Law, then this fulfilling included to die as substitute in place of the animal so that by His very own blood would be shed for the sins of the children of Israel and only them as they were the people under the Law and God's chosen people ABOVE all the people in the earth. Jesus fulfilled the Law and died for the sins of the children of Israel in same fashion as the animals were sacrificed for the sins of the children of Israel except His sacrifice was once and for all the children of Israel as saith the Law.

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. Gal. 4:4–5.

And those that were under the Law were the children of Abraham.

Again, Jesus died for the sins of the children of Israel as saith the Law. If you want to believe in lies that state Jesus died for the whole world then you teach universalism which isn't true. For if Jesus died for the whole world, then why aren't the whole world saved? Was there something wrong with His sacrifice?

Those that awaited Messiah were Christian. Moses was Christian. David was Christian. Every Hebrew who awaited the coming of their Messiah and Deliverer were Christian but that's the Greek name. The Hebrew name is Messias. And the children of Israel all awaited His coming and thus were Christ/Messiah followers.

Can't you read?

5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
12 And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?
13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
Acts 2:5–13.

Matching the languages that were represented that morning shows us from where these Jews living in Gentile lands came from.

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And these same Jews that were born again - three thousand - went back to their homes in Gentile lands taking with them an outline of Peter's sermon, their experiences with the Holy Spirit of Promise:

....and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, [Jews] and to your children, and to all [Jews] that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. Acts 2:38–39.

The Holy Spirit was NEVER Promised to Gentiles. Scripture cannot be broken. Thus, the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED to the children of Israel in many places in Scripture - especially Jeremiah 31:31-34, was a Promise made to God's covenant people - NOT to Gentiles. So, if Scripture cannot be broken, then the only people who were marked to receive the Holy Spirit would be those to whom He was Promised that that identifies the children of Israel - Jews.

But if you want to violate Scripture, if you want to break Scripture, then continue to believe in something not true and that thing that is not true is the teaching that non-Hebrew Gentiles were promised the Holy Spirit of Promise. Go ahead and post your evidence, post your Scripture that says the Holy Spirit was promised to Gentiles.

Psst...there are no such Scripture. So, where does that teaching come from if it cannot be found in Scripture?

Hmmm?

We do not agree. You believe there were Christians before Acts chapter two. I do not. You believe there's such a thing as a Jewish Christian. I see no such language in the Bible. You can write your own book and use that language if you want to. But the Bible does not use that language and it's the Bible we are trying to understand. Not your writings.

 

[praise_yeshua]

We do not agree. You believe there were Christians before Acts chapter two. I do not. You believe there's such a thing as a Jewish Christian. I see no such language in the Bible. You can write your own book and use that language if you want to. But the Bible does not use that language and it's the Bible we are trying to understand. Not your writings.

The term Christian originated at Antioch long after Acts 2. (Acts 11). There shouldn't be an expectation to see "Christian" previous to this.

This does not preclude the fact that Adam and Eve both knew of the promises of Jesus Christ as recorded in Genesis 3:15

Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

The Bruised Servant. Jesus Christ.

 

[Peterlag]

The term Christian originated at Antioch long after Acts 2. (Acts 11). There shouldn't be an expectation to see "Christian" previous to this.

This does not preclude the fact that Adam and Eve both knew of the promises of Jesus Christ as recorded in Genesis 3:15

Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

The Bruised Servant. Jesus Christ.

The Christian started in Acts chapter two. They were not called that until later. So let's call them the humans that first received the new birth of Christ born within them. That happened in Acts chapter two and today we call those people Christians.

 

[praise_yeshua]

The Christian started in Acts chapter two. They were not called that until later. So let's call them the humans that first received the new birth of Christ born within them. That happened in Acts chapter two and today we call those people Christians.

I've heard that many times before. I disagree. I believe knowledge was abandoned by the descendents of Adam to the point the truth of God in Christ was forgotten. Paul speaks of how many abandoned such knowledge in Romans 1.

 

[Peterlag]

I've heard that many times before. I disagree. I believe knowledge was abandoned by the descendents of Adam to the point the truth of God in Christ was forgotten. Paul speaks of how many abandoned such knowledge in Romans 1.

There was no God in Christ around with Adam because Jesus was born thousands of years later.

 

[jeremiah1five]

You never provide any direct comments relative to your claims. In this response alone you're ignoring the claims you made to insert bloviating nonsense "my problems".

I'm ignoring claims? YOU are ignoring the Scripture, something true believers DO NOT DO. Here's my proof.

The Word of God says:

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. Gal. 4:4–5.

According to Scripture on who is redeemed by the Lamb of God, Saul says only those under the Law and this identifies the Jews. Do you agree with Saul that on the question of redemption only the Jews are saved?

Jesus is God. He was more than capable of speaking every dialect of man. What actually matters is what those that heard Him spoke and used as Scripture.

No, He wasn't. He spoke Hebrew and Aramaic, and possibly Greek, but I wouldn't say that for sure. He grew up in a Hebrew household and the occupying Romans spoke Latin. Greek-speaking was in Gentile lands away from the bulk of Jews living in their homeland of Israel, of which the Jews spoke Hebrew. Just because He was the Son of God does not mean He knew every earthly language. He was a man and as a man had to learn in the same process and way any other man would. His knowledge was limited, and He asked questions to get more information.

You would think that this would be common sense on your part. Alas. You have no common sense. Your bias is based upon your racism and ungodly appeal to the flesh. Simple fleshly mistakes on your part. You're much less than the "scholar" you would have others believe you to be. You're just one more in a large line of "claim it" theologians. You have no desire to prove anything at all.

God is ethnic. He chose the Hebrews ABOVE ALL the people on the earth:

6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. Deut. 7:6.

Do you agree with God?

What does this have to do with what Jesus read in Luke concerning Isaiah 61?
Prove it.
I suppose you're going to float away to heaven today.

Nope. There is no such thing as [a] rapture. It's a Gentile contrivance that has no biblical basis.

Since God loves you so much to the exclusion of others.

True. to the exclusion of non-Hebrew Gentiles.

Tell me, have you forgotten you're going to die just like those who died in the "flood"? You obviously believe God has decreed your death. By your own logic, God doesn't love you at all. You're going to die just like every other man.

Nope. Not me. I have eternal life given to me by the eternal Word, so, no, the Old Testament Law, Psalms, and Prophets is not abolished or obsolete of vanishing away. It's still here are STILL causing the Lord's Beloved to salvation.

Jesus warned against your evil attitude towards your fellow man.
Luk 13:4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
Luk 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
You're nothing like Jesus.

Yes, I am. I'm a little Christ. That's why I'm called Christian. Jesus Christ is being formed in me.

 

[jeremiah1five]

There was a Gentile women at a well that Jesus loved. He took a special trip her way to spread the Gospel to Gentiles.

The woman at the well was a Samaritan. She was half-Jew and half-Gentile and STILL the seed of Abraham.
She knew who she was and who Jesus was for she said "OUR."

12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle? Jn 4:12.

She was Jew just like Jesus.

You hate what Jesus did. You're just like those Jews that denied Christ.
Joh 8:48 Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?
Joh 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Mocking a blind man is proof of your deceptions.

And once she was born again, she was able to worship God [with a] spirit and in truth.

Jesus accepts any person who is the seed of Abraham, and this woman was a daughter of Abraham.

 

[jeremiah1five]

With whom did GOD establish His covenant . Was it not with Israel . And yet not all of israel were ever truly of israel .
I mean its time for folks to really learn some bible for themselves .
Lest one thinks the flesh of man alone is what profited a man . GOD was not well pleased
with a lot of israel and often destroyed many within israel . SO SOMETHING was going on that a lot today KNOW nothing about .
All of israel was of JACOB of ISRAEL according to the flesh , BUT NOT ALL OF ISRAEL OBEYED GOD .
Yet many today somehow want to teach that simply being jewish born somehow means THEY are in covenant with GOD .

Yup. That's what God says. Anyone who is of Abraham's seed is an heir to his promises of God.

If a man breaks covenant and repents not , I dont give a rip what he was born , GOD WONT BE PLEASED and if the
person repents not , HIMS Gonna wail .

Saul said, "and ALL Israel shall be saved" and this coincides with Abraham's seed as the stars in the heaven and the sand on the seashore, multitudes and multitudes of Abraham's seed as promised by God.

We got many a problem within christiandome my friend . many DO NOT KNOW THE GOD of ISRAEL

That's not the problem. The problem is that non-Hebrew Gentiles 1900 years ago after the destruction of Israel and their Temple stole everything that God gave to Israel. Jewish terms like "Bride" and "Church" and "saints" and even their covenant they have stolen from Israel when she was down, and they made all those things their own. It's called inheritance theft. They misuse Gal. 3:28-29 for instance to try to prove non-Hebrew Gentiles - of Greeks - are Abraham's seed and heirs according to his promise. Every instance where the word "Gentile" is found in the New Covenant Scripture from Matthew to Revelation they point to and say this is their proof non-Hebrew Gentiles are in Abraham's covenant despite the fact that when God made the covenant with Abe in Genesis 15 and 17 that there is no mention of non-Hebrew Gentiles. Quite the opposite. The Abraham covenant is between God, Abram the HEBREW, and his seed, and non-Hebrew Gentiles do not come from his seed. The problem with "Christendom" is that non-Hebrew Gentiles think they are in covenant with God through Abraham - notice the skip over the Mosaic Covenant to get to Abraham - but there is no Scripture of God making any kind of covenant with non-Hebrew Gentiles. None. Once Gentiles unmoored true, biblical Christianity from its Hebrew roots they started a whole new religion one based on fallacies and lies.

many only know what men taught them about such a god and his covenants , BUT THEY SURE DONT KNOW THE GOD OF ISRAEL
at all .

They can't because they are not Abraham's seed. They are the seed of Ham and Japheth, not Abraham.

They know twisted scrips , they know dispensations and lots of other big words , but they sure dont KNOW GOD .
GUESS what . Abraham had TWO SONS . both sons were HIS ACCORDING TO THE FLESH
only one SON was according to the promise .
And with many jews GOD has not been well pleased . Many men look to the flesh of man
when they ought to look TO THE GOD WHO created man . OH its bible time all right .
THE PROMISES given to the FATHERS , You can bet was gonna be fullfilled all right , IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
NOW we have us a TRUE JERUSALEM . A JERUSALEM that many do not know of
as they clambor to put their hopes into the one built by hands and into the jews . SHOULD PUT OUR HOPE
in the GOD who created both the jew and gentile . SHOULD have put our hopes in GOD , not in men . IN GOD .
lastly GOD the FATHER sent the SON
and would you like to know what the SON told even the seed of abraham , well the seed according to the flesh ,
to the jews that did not beleive . What did JESUS TELL the jews who did not beleive on HIM .
WHAT DID HE TELL THEM .
WHAT DID HE TELL THEM . Even though they cliamed to KNOW TORAH , TO KNOW MOSES , to know the law
EVEN though they cried GOD IS OUR FATHER , abraham is our father
JESUS said , YE of your pappy THE DEVIL . WE BETTER START PREACHING THE REAL GOD of ISRAEL
but to do that , WE GONNA HAVE TO PREACH JESUS THE CHRIST WHOM THE FATHER SENT . ALL ELSE IS VAIN BUDDY .

The thing that Gentiles cannot answer is that why were there no non-Hebrew Gentiles claiming and clamoring they are in the Abraham Covenant years before Jesus arrived and even when He was here? It is such a phenomenon that non-Hebrew Gentiles only began to make such claims only AFTER Israel was destroyed and scattered and their Temple destroyed, but not before. It was an overnight sensation. All 66 "books" of the bible is a lesson in the history of the Hebrew people and records their life in their God and the culture God commanded and instructed them in, a culture based upon the Law of Moses and the Psalms and the Prophets.
The only people Jesus Christ redeemed are those who were under the Law and this includes every Jewish man and woman born from the twelve tribes and from Jacob and Isaac and Abram the Hebrew (Gen. 14:13.)

 

[jeremiah1five]

In the NT the Greek word for Jew is an Ethnonym. Which is so ironic considering the senseless claims of @jeremiah1five. The term "Jew" wouldn't even exist without the Greek culture. The word "Jew" was never used in the OT until the book of Esther.

The children of Abraham were never known by this distinction before the influence of the Greek culture. They were simply known by the distinctions of the 12 patriarchs. The "tribes" of Israel. "Jew" is an ethnic distinction that came forth from Gentile culture.

Spoken...er, written like a true non-Hebrew antisemite Gentile.
Jew is the English for Juda or Judah, a Hebrew word given to one of Jacobs twelve sons and it means "Praise."
It derives from Hebrew culture and history.
And I think it was the word "God" was never mentioned in the Hebrew book of Esther, not "Jew."

 

[jeremiah1five]

Just FYI. Jew comes primarily from Judah. The tribes of Benjamin and Judah largely separated themselves from Israel under King Rehoboam. God condemned Jeroboam in the book of Amos.

It was the other way around. The ten tribes separated themselves from the king of Judah and founded their own monarch in the north with Samaria as their capital. Judah remained in Jerusalem exactly where Solomon left it.

When Paul referenced himself as a "Hebrew of Hebrews" he was appealing to the fact that he came from a "pure" line of descendants that didn't widely marry outside of the 12 tribes of Israel through the tribe of Benjamin.

Speculation. There is no proof Saul was making a reference of biological purity. Saul was from Tarsus, a Roman province and outside of the Holy Land so if anything after 500 years most every tribe member intermarried with Gentiles. This was the whole purpose of God in scattering His people throughout the then-known world. First it was the ten northern tribes, and then 200 years later it was the two southern tribes. Then God scattered them again in 70AD, and then again in 1930s Germany. European Jews made a quick exit off that continent.

The word "Hebrew" used in Paul's reference in Philippians 3:4 is rather unique. If anyone could appeal to be in the faithful "flesh" of Abraham it was Paul.

@jeremiah1five is a false prophet that has not idea what he is talking about.

The word "Hebrew" originates with one of God's chosen named "Eber." God used this ethnicity of Abram in Gen. 14:13. He did that to make a distinction between His people and those NOT His people. God is very ethnic.

 

[praise_yeshua]

There was no God in Christ around with Adam because Jesus was born thousands of years later.

1. Christ is Eternal.

1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

2. Christ was slain from the foundation of the world.

Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
1Pe 1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

3. Mankind rejected God's promises and purpose a very long time ago. Humanity has suffered because of this.

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

I encourage you to study yourself. Stop blindly accepting what you've heard. Those a Berea challenged the apostles. There is not wrong with challenging what you hear from others. Job learned that he didn't know God as good as he thought he did. The apostles themselves struggled with abandoning their perceived ideas and idols of imaginations.

My purpose in life is the same as Paul.

2Co 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
2Co 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
2Co 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

 

[praise_yeshua]

It was the other way around. The ten tribes separated themselves from the king of Judah and founded their own monarch in the north with Samaria as their capital. Judah remained in Jerusalem exactly where Solomon left it.

1Ki 14:30 And there was war between Rehoboam and Jeroboam all their days.

Neither King followed God. Jerusalem was conquered city. None of the children of Israel established Jerusalem. You need to study more.

Speculation. There is no proof Saul was making a reference of biological purity. Saul was from Tarsus, a Roman province and outside of the Holy Land so if anything after 500 years most every tribe member intermarried with Gentiles. This was the whole purpose of God in scattering His people throughout the then-known world. First it was the ten northern tribes, and then 200 years later it was the two southern tribes. Then God scattered them again in 70AD, and then again in 1930s Germany. European Jews made a quick exit off that continent.

The Tribe of Benjamin were warriors. Many of them were killed in battle to the point of almost disappearing. Israel desired the purity and valor of Saul to be King. David himself even witnessed the decline of the house of Saul. You need to study more. If "Benjamin" had married among Gentiles then they would have been many more of them.

The word "Hebrew" originates with one of God's chosen named "Eber." God used this ethnicity of Abram in Gen. 14:13. He did that to make a distinction between His people and those NOT His people. God is very ethnic.

Speculation. There is no proof of your claims. Study use of the word in Scriptures. There is no such use.

 

[praise_yeshua]

I'm ignoring claims? YOU are ignoring the Scripture, something true believers DO NOT DO. Here's my proof.

The Word of God says:

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. Gal. 4:4–5.

Israel was also adopted. Notice the "we".

Funny. You don't believe those words are inspired at all. You "cherry pick" what you use in the NT and deny other words at your own evil discretion.

According to Scripture on who is redeemed by the Lamb of God, Saul says only those under the Law and this identifies the Jews. Do you agree with Saul that on the question of redemption only the Jews are saved?

A law unto themselves.....

Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

The law is written in the consequence of all the children of Adam. It is the natural sense of right and wrong that exists in every life that comes forth the breath of God given to Adam and Eve. It is the join of those two seeds of humanity that produces the consequence among humanity. You find no value in the purpose of God in Christ Jesus for all men.

No, He wasn't. He spoke Hebrew and Aramaic, and possibly Greek, but I wouldn't say that for sure. He grew up in a Hebrew household and the occupying Romans spoke Latin. Greek-speaking was in Gentile lands away from the bulk of Jews living in their homeland of Israel, of which the Jews spoke Hebrew. Just because He was the Son of God does not mean He knew every earthly language. He was a man and as a man had to learn in the same process and way any other man would. His knowledge was limited, and He asked questions to get more information.

Not when He read that Scroll.............. Get with it..... Pay attention. Jesus grew. He stopped growing. God Incarnate.

God is ethnic. He chose the Hebrews ABOVE ALL the people on the earth:

6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. Deut. 7:6.

Do you agree with God?

You're referencing a ethnic culture that didn't exist for thousands of years after Abel was born to your father Adam. All men come from a single man.

Act 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

No. You do not believe what God said. I believe God has said good things about all of the children of Adam. Not just the ones you prefer. Satan prefers "his own".

Yes, I am. I'm a little Christ. That's why I'm called Christian. Jesus Christ is being formed in me.

It is metaphorical statement that Paul used. You're not a "little Christ". You have a self made idol of yourself.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Spoken...er, written like a true non-Hebrew antisemite Gentile.
Jew is the English for Juda or Judah, a Hebrew word given to one of Jacobs twelve sons and it means "Praise."
It derives from Hebrew culture and history.
And I think it was the word "God" was never mentioned in the Hebrew book of Esther, not "Jew."

You're a Gentile. How disconnected from realty do you have to be??????

I bow to one man. Jesus Christ. The only heir of Abraham after the flesh. Do you remember the principles of the "first born"? Gentile.....

Don't think. Read.

You can prove me wrong. Show the first use of the word "Jew". Don't speculate.

 

[praise_yeshua]

The woman at the well was a Samaritan. She was half-Jew and half-Gentile

You have no idea how many Gentiles had their way with the women in her lineage. Over and over again committing apostacy among the Jews. You need to be really offended to stay true to your claims. Here you are including her and rejecting me. We are ALL a mixed race. You too "buddy".

and STILL the seed of Abraham.

In Christ alone. Joint heirs. We ALL are. Jesus Christ is the only Eternal heir of Abraham.... He alone has immortality. He gives such to ANYONE that embraces Him.

She knew who she was and who Jesus was for she said "OUR."

12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle? Jn 4:12.

She was Jew just like Jesus.

Mary wasn't a Samaritan. Just more nonsense from you. You're floundering in inconstancy.

And once she was born again, she was able to worship God [with a] spirit and in truth.

Jesus accepts any person who is the seed of Abraham, and this woman was a daughter of Abraham.

Both Israel and Judah both were declared harlots.

Jer 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
Jer 3:9 And it came to pass through the lightness of her whoredom, that she defiled the land, and committed adultery with stones and with stocks.

Jesus accepts anyone.

Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Joh 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Joh 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

 

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We do not agree. You believe there were Christians before Acts chapter two.

Of course there were Christians before Acts. It's just that the Jews who awaited the Christ (Greek) were awaiting the Christ (Greek.) The Hebrew word for "Christ" is "Messiah" (English) or "Mashiach" (Hebrew.) Every Hebrew girl and woman prayed that they would be the vessel through which their Messiah/Christ/Mashiach would be born. In time God chose Mariam/Mary. You are too much indoctrinated with false Constantinian Gentile theology that attempts with a non-Hebrew Gentile mind to understand Hebrew history and culture and everything in the Old Testament Scripture of Law, Psalms, and Prophets that is of Hebrew integrity.

Are you one that believes that Galatians 3:28-29 is written to non-Hebrew Gentiles and that Saul is saying non-Hebrew Gentiles are in the Abrahamic Covenant because of what Saul said in Gal. 3:28-29? Even though such interpretation violates and breaks Scripture by the non-Hebrew Gentile admission of non-Hebrew Gentiles in the Abraham Covenant? Doesn't Genesis chapter 15 and 17 record God make covenant with Abram the Hebrew (Gen. 14:13) and with his Hebrew seed? Sarai was Abram's niece. Terah was Abram's brother. The Abraham Covenant is a family covenant that passed down to Isaac and then to Jacob - both of Hebrew stock? Then the covenant and its blessings passed to all twelve of Jacob's sons.

1 THE book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren;
Mt 1:1–2.

Then God sent Moses who was from the tribe of Levi, a son of Jacob.

After the Hebrew children of Jacob/Israel was delivered from their Egyptian bondage God made covenant with them in the desert at Mount Sinai dubbed the Mosaic Covenant. In this covenant God Promised to send a "prophet like unto Moses" who in hindsight we know now to be Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God and His very own Son in the flesh. It was through Jesus' sacrifice that God instituted the New Covenant in His blood/life. This covenant prophesied by Jeremiah included the Promise of the Holy Spirit that God was to put in the inward parts of both the House of Israel (ten northern tribes) and the House of Judah (two southern tribes.) STILL, another covenant is made with the seed of Abram the Hebrew. And so, we have three Hebrew covenants that does not include non-Hebrew Gentiles. So, where does all this talk come from about non-Hebrew Gentiles being a part of any of these three Hebrew covenants? Do YOU believe the lie that non-Hebrew Gentiles are included in any of these three Hebrew covenants?

I do not. You believe there's such a thing as a Jewish Christian. I see no such language in the Bible. You can write your own book and use that language if you want to. But the Bible does not use that language and it's the Bible we are trying to understand. Not your writings.

Christian means "Christ-follower" or "Christ-like." On the day of the Feast of Harvest God the Father and God the Son both sent God the Holy Spirit into the world with a Ministry to apply to the Jews/Hebrews in covenant with God the salvation bought by the Son. The New Covenant is only the Mosaic Covenant fulfilled by Israel's Messiah/Christ in His blood. The Law of Moses was nailed to His cross and when He, Messiah died, He also arose from the dead and the Law that was spiritual arose with Messiah and He, along with the Father, dispatched the Holy Spirit Promised to the Hebrew people and with the first born-again Jew the New Covenant began. Three thousand Jews were born-again and became "Christ-follower" or "Christ-like" in their new lives as spiritual Israel bound to their God through the covenants that went before. It's really no big thing to call these born-again Jews Christians since they were Christ-followers being born-again. The Bible doesn't use the language "Trinity" and yet that is who God is. The Bible doesn't use the language "Jewish Christian" but that's what born-again Jews were. If you can't see this, you are sincerely blind.